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i know you hate me, but i love you though
This is going to be the new Scola.. I am convinced.
quite likely. and brandon paul may become the equivalent to tiago splitter. remember, it was the drafting of splitter that led to the ultimate decision to pass on signing scola. and splitter turned out to be a good fit for what the spurs were doing at that time.
This reminds me more of the Jax situation after '03. Jax left the spurs in '03 despite the spurs offering him the most money on the market which he still felt was not good enough. He signed a 1 year deal with the Hawks which were a terrible team back then and became a 20 point scorer. From '03-'07 they were multiple threads about how the Spurs should have kept Jax despite winning in '05 and '07. I feel this situation will be like that.
Yup, they both had problems with the conservative coach who played favorites as well. Same situation except Spurs ain't winning until those 50 Million contracts to Flabby and Gasoft end
Except in this case it was JSimms who wanted to play elsewhere, and worse than women scorned, some guys are still whining about it... and will continue to do so, endlessly the thought never entering their minds that JSimms is happy and chose where to play.
I wish JSimms well and I am happy he's playing well... that is all that there is to be said. My reference to Scola was more about him popping up endlessly in threads, for years even and it turning into a fruitless debate at that point.
I didn't know about guys whining so much about Jax despite the Spurs having a championship team those years.... /whew
Let's not lie now. You and a certain someone are the only ones who complain game by game when his name is brought up. It's no surprise, I mean you both wanted him cut last preseason for Garino.
If we're going to player fan, let's at least not hide the agendas.
Those thread happened a lot in '04 and '06 when the Spurs lost to the Lakers and Mavs. They were a lot of fans that felt had the Spurs kept Jax they win in both of those years.
People give Simmons way too much credit for putting up decent numbers when Kawhi was hurt. I would bet DG's impact on the league, especially his playoff accomplishments, will far exceed anything Simmons does in his career.
Just stop.
B-b-but he abused Danny Green
Danny Green looked great on defense when Duncan and Leonard were on the floor with him. Duincan retired, defense went to . Leonard out this season as well, no duncan or leonard, he's a below average defender. Can't fight thru picks, won't fight thru picks, can't stay in front of his assignment, loses his assignment constantly, doesn't switch properly, help defense is terrible. I don't know what the is wrong with him
When you're getting torched by guys like Simmons, Hezonja, Oladipo, and Jaylen Brown, you're probably not really NBA All-Defense.
Can't wait to see how he fares against the better SG's in the league this year.
^ absolute truth bombs those
the metrics of Danny (who always played most of the time with the starters) will be better, but as basketball player Simmons >>> Green
horrible comparison...Simmons wasn't offered a lot of money here, nor a decent role...Jax had a significant role in 03
DG has better playoff accomplishments than the greek Freak...is he better? face it...simmons is better than DG, and we would be better with him too
the differential is a crap stat in certain cases...maybe without Simmons, the differential of the magic bench would be MUCH worse...everything has a context...Just stop.
B-b-but he abused Danny Green
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEEEEARS! his defense is severely overrated!
I'd like the Spurs to still have both. Giving up Simmons and replacing him with lesser talent was a mistake.
Some of the hoops people are jumping through to excuse the front office are funny. Similar to how people coped with Scola by blaming Scola and making up things rather than look at the front office.
Like Simmons adamantly not wanting to play for San Antonio or being won over with a new role. Or his comments being anything other than the normal things players are supposed to say about wanting to be with a new team.
Simmons made next to nothing in his career, and had to go begging to get sub-MLE with the third year only $1 million guaranteed to come off the bench for a lottery team. 3/18 declining with only 13.3 guaranteed isn't a prize.
Why on Earth would he have ever turned down more or even the same amount of money with more guaranteed? He wouldn't have because he knew Manu was almost done and Green could have easily been gone in a year. If he had a similar offer he would have leveraged Orlando into a full guarantee.
No, he didn't turn his back on the Spurs. This was all their choice, this is about the Spurs' judgement, not Simmons. The same front office that thought it was awesome to give $98 million to Gasol and Mills, with what, $87 guaranteed?
This was probably just being cheap and valuing giant contracts for non finishers in Gasol and Mills over reasonable money for Simmons.
Because even paying Simmons $4 million in place of Paul would have put the Spurs into the tax.
I've been as critical of the front office as probably anyone on this board this decade, but I'm not going to become a parody of myself or get caught up in a shtick and bash them just for the sake of it.
I believe Simmons wanted less to do with Spurs' culture than they wanted him in it. Obviously, someone in his position couldn't pick and choose, but I don't think he ever wanted anything to do with them beyond what it could mean for him by being associated with them for 2 years.
Magic and Grizzlies tied at the half but Simmons with det team worst +/- differential -12. How can the Spurs cope with the loss of this guy?
using +/- as a stat in 2017 to cape up for PATFOMagic and Grizzlies tied at the half but Simmons with det team worst +/- differential -12. How can the Spurs cope with the loss of this guy?
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