Called it on Paul

[TD 21]

Been saying, think Paul will play a slightly bigger role than most assume. He's more experienced than the other unestablished guards and is the only one who could conceivably fill a 3 and D role. Specifically, could see him being a secondary Harden/Westbrook defender.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...68#post9147068

Think Paul might start if Green is injured/given a rest game. He's not raw, just lacks NBA experience, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a slightly bigger role than most assume he will. He has the physical profile of a possible secondary Harden/Westbrook defender.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...35#post9140435


It's clear he'll be pushing Anderson for 4th wing minutes when they're healthy and will likely be ahead of Lauvergne in small ball games.

[SAGirl]

He has played well tbh and earned his time. He's playing better than Murray, Forbes and Mills too. Case for Manu could be argued at times. Manu will have games where he does look 40 and shots will not fall.

[objective]

He's too small to replicate what Simmons did. Simmons had the size to be versatile. Best Harden defender on the team.

One result of the size difference is attacking and finishing at the rim. If you watch only the d-league highlights they both dunked all over people, just a smash fest. But when the opponents sized up overseas and now in the NBA, that's disappeared for Paul.

Not just that, but Simmons could handle and create, with a screen or without, for himself and others.

Paul hasn't shown any of that.

[TD 21]

He's too small to replicate what Simmons did. Simmons had the size to be versatile. Best Harden defender on the team.

One result of the size difference is attacking and finishing at the rim. If you watch only the d-league highlights they both dunked all over people, just a smash fest. But when the opponents sized up overseas and now in the NBA, that's disappeared for Paul.

Not just that, but Simmons could handle and create, with a screen or without, for himself and others.

Paul hasn't shown any of that.

Simmons is 1.75 inches taller, with a 2.75 inch shorter wingspan and no more suited to defending big guards or less suited to defending combo forwards.

If Simmons' uptick in 3-point shooting holds, then his advantage in athleticism would make him more valuable. If not, then he had to be on ball and was going to block Murray's path to eventually taking over for Ginobili as the creator on the 2nd unit. Also, as many seemingly ignore, he clearly didn't want to be a Spur.

Anyway, this thread wasn't meant to be a comparison.

[spursgu]

Yeah Paul looks like a vet out there. Lowkey reminds me of Stephen Jackson

[TheGreatYacht]

Start him over Fathead who has unsurprisingly been an utter failure in the starting lineup, tbh... Murray, Paul, Green.

[cd98]

Paul looks solid. He can hit the three and plays defense. Spurs use those kinds of players well.

[apalisoc_9]

I called it before you though...

[benefactor]

Bend over got, I'll call it

[Stabula]

So this thread is dedicated to watching the OP mentally masturbate over liking a player "first"?

[TheDoctor]

duncan2k5 called before you tbh

[Truth4sale$]

If you look at Paul's physical makeup it matches his mental makeup. He is a young man with the "Rookie" label. His body is physically ready, he is chiseled. He is not some 19-22 year inexperienced kid learning to play professionally, that has to grow up and gain muscle to handle the rigors. He is battle tested and hungry. He has struggled tryin to get to the NBA. He is mature. He wants to stay in the NBA. He could be the X factor for the Spurs.

[Chinook]

He's too small to replicate what Simmons did. Simmons had the size to be versatile. Best Harden defender on the team.

One result of the size difference is attacking and finishing at the rim. If you watch only the d-league highlights they both dunked all over people, just a smash fest. But when the opponents sized up overseas and now in the NBA, that's disappeared for Paul.

Not just that, but Simmons could handle and create, with a screen or without, for himself and others.

Paul hasn't shown any of that.

Simmons' game on Harden is overrated. Even in vids highlighting Jon's D, it was clear the Spurs were heavily helping him. It certainly doesn't override literal years of Leonard and Green checking Harden. By far the most important thing Simmons brought was an ability to defend Draymond. It's something Danny can't really do, but Jon did well there. It could have given them another quality horse to use against GS, but that should be something Gay can do as well. This is a long season. If Simmons' game holds, he would have been a great wing to have. However, if he falls back to Earth, then Paul is a fine guy to have. Dude is more solid than Simmons, even if he's not as flashy. I think he could be a good one long-term for the team, as he likely won't get a big deal after next season.

[coachmac87]

I called it first

[TheGreatYacht]

Called him being trash?

[John B]

I love Simmons athleticism. But BP3 is a better ball handler and overall more consistent player, plus he has beautiful strokes. He could be the backup PG against more athletic teams. Arguably BP3 >> CP3 for the price

[TD 21]

Start him over Fathead who has unsurprisingly been an utter failure in the starting lineup, tbh... Murray, Paul, Green.

Yeah, Anderson has been downright putrid offensively. No improvement whatsoever, in aggressiveness, motor or quickness on release. So much for his supposed strength, play making. To top it all off, incredibly soft play around the rim, repeatedly being altered/blocked by guards.

I called it before you though...

I'd stay away from calling him a 3 and D guy though, his D is suspect.

[TheGreatYacht]

Yeah, Anderson has been downright putrid offensively. No improvement whatsoever, in aggressiveness, motor or quickness on release. So much for his supposed strength, play making. To top it all off, incredibly soft play around the rim, repeatedly being altered/blocked by guards.

It's just not a Spurs game without Fathead getting blocked at the rim by a point guard.

[MaNu4Tres]

He's the 4th best player on the team right now. I'd start him over Kyle.

[hater]

I called it since the first I layed eyes on him

Hes gona be a solid nba rotational guy

Called it

[apalisoc_9]

Yeah, Anderson has been downright putrid offensively. No improvement whatsoever, in aggressiveness, motor or quickness on release. So much for his supposed strength, play making. To top it all off, incredibly soft play around the rim, repeatedly being altered/blocked by guards.

I did say he was going to get minutes and play over guys though

[keithington1]

Hate to say it but with Forbes, Patty should be traded. Gotta let Patty beef up his trade value tho. Their the same player basically, but Patty waves towels, is foreign, is friends with Manu, he screams with passion into his fists, and he moves like the tasmanian devil.

[MaNu4Tres]

Hate to say it but with Forbes, Patty should be traded. Gotta let Patty beef up his trade value tho. Their the same player basically, but Patty waves towels, is foreign, is friends with Manu, he screams with passion into his fists, and he moves like the tasmanian devil.

They simply shouldn't have re-signed him.

[-21-]

I called it before you though...

So this thread is dedicated to watching the OP mentally masturbate over liking a player "first"?

duncan2k5 called before you tbh

I called it first

All of you said Fathead was better. I called Paul imo

I called it since the first I layed eyes on him

Hes gona be a solid nba rotational guy

Called it

I did say he was going to get minutes and play over guys though

10/10 thread. You guys are ridiculous.

[rjv]

i like paul .he has an NBA rotation player feel and look to him. he has a nice shot, defensive athleticism. work ethic, and a nice degree of physicality. simmons always struck me as a flash in the pan and i always cringed when he took jump shots. when paul takes that jumper, i have more confidence he drains it than i ever did with j simms.