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    Podesta thought he could cuck the Tuck



    Speaking of dead credibility...

    Tucker Carlson. Sad!

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    Tony feeling the heat

    Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...r-probe-244314
    We have this dashboard. It's called the Hamilton 68 dashboard. And the dashboard is tracking about 600 accounts that are a network or really derived from a few different networks that are promoting messaging that is furthering the Kremlin's interests. It's trying to get the Americans to talk about things that the Russians would like us to be talking about.

    SHAPIRO: So let's actually pull up the dashboard right now and see what these Russian-affiliated accounts are talking about right now. And I see that the No. 1 trending hashtag is #PodestaGroup. This is referring to the Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta. The top URLs, the first one is Justice Department do ent unsealed yesterday related to the indictments, and the second one is a story, "Tony Podesta Stepping Down From Lobbying Giant Amid Mueller Probe." Why would this be of such interest to these Russian-affiliated accounts?

    ROSENBERGER: Of course the big news of the week is actually the indictment of Paul Manafort and Richard Gates - you know, both former Trump campaign officials, Paul Manafort the former chairman of the campaign - and the guilty plea of George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser.

    SHAPIRO: And their names are below Podesta on this list.

    ROSENBERGER: Mmm hmm (ph). What we see here is a classic Russian tactic called whataboutism. It's basically trying to muddy the waters, to obfuscate truth, to create the idea that everything is relative, that, oh, look; both the Democrats and the Republicans are in trouble for Russia stuff when the reality is, you know, Tony Podesta hasn't been indicted for anything at this point. To think about sort of what they're doing here is a lot of times they're simply amplifying stories that they believe is useful to them, trying to basically...
    http://nprberlin.de/post/how-one-gro...y-tied-kremlin

    How does it feel to be so easily manipulated?

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    Sam Clovis, President Donald Trump’s controversial nominee to be the Agriculture Department’s chief scientist, has been “a fully cooperative witness” in the Senate Intelligence Committee’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Senate Agriculture Chairman Pat Roberts told POLITICO.

    Clovis, a former co-chair and policy adviser to Trump’s campaign, knew that another campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, was talking to Russians, according to do ents released Monday as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe and campaign and administration officials.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...igation-244370

    Time to watch the clichéd fat man sweat...

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    "manafort was a crook long before he ran my campaign"


    sounds like a solid argument.

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    "manafort was a crook long before he ran my campaign"


    sounds like a solid argument.
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    Debunked.

    Hillary wasn't voting on it, the people who did vote said they would have unanimously voted the same way today. The guy who gave the money sold his stake in the company before he gave the money, and gave the money before Clinton was even Secretary of State.

    You always conveniently forget about Uranium One chairman Ian Telfer's donations

    Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer (also a Canadian), the company’s chairman:

    His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.

    In addition to the Clinton Foundation donations, the New York Times also cited a $500,000 speaking fee paid to former president Bill Clinton by a Russian investment bank in June 2010, before the Uranium One deal was approved:

    The $500,000 fee — among Mr. Clinton’s highest — was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that has invited world leaders, including Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, to speak at its investor conferences.

    Renaissance Capital analysts talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a “buy” rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets.

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    I'm not on twitter or facebook or any other social media site. No Russian affiliated account made me go on Politico and read the article about Podesta, and no Russian affiliated account made Politico write the story on Podesta.

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    I'm not on twitter or facebook or any other social media site. No Russian affiliated account made me go on Politico and read the article about Podesta, and no Russian affiliated account made Politico write the story on Podesta.
    These stories were, however, pushed by Russia, with a very specific agenda, which you furthered, knowingly or not.

    I have little doubt that others in your information sphere are so similarly insulated. Quite frankly I kind of wonder how many 4chan asshats are part of the troll army, you included.

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    I'm not on twitter or facebook or any other social media site. No Russian affiliated account made me go on Politico and read the article about Podesta, and no Russian affiliated account made Politico write the story on Podesta.
    ar15.com?

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    You always conveniently forget about Uranium One chairman Ian Telfer's donations

    Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer (also a Canadian), the company’s chairman:

    His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.

    In addition to the Clinton Foundation donations, the New York Times also cited a $500,000 speaking fee paid to former president Bill Clinton by a Russian investment bank in June 2010, before the Uranium One deal was approved:

    The $500,000 fee — among Mr. Clinton’s highest — was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that has invited world leaders, including Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, to speak at its investor conferences.

    Renaissance Capital analysts talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a “buy” rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets.
    Dance marionetka, tanets.

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    Picked up on that too. Very careful to say where he doesn't get his "important news" from. He is not as insulated as he thinks, I would wager.

    My thoughts are Trumpeteers and Clinton-bashers tend to have not much defense against such manipulation. it is like exposing people with challenged immune systems to the common cold. Of course they catch it.

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    These stories were, however, pushed by Russia, with a very specific agenda, which you furthered, knowingly or not.

    I have little doubt that others in your information sphere are so similarly insulated. Quite frankly I kind of wonder how many 4chan asshats are part of the troll army, you included.
    What was Politico's agenda when publishing the story? And sorry wrong again, I'm not on 4chan or part of a troll army either.

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    You always conveniently forget about Uranium One chairman Ian Telfer's donations

    Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer (also a Canadian), the company’s chairman:

    His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.

    In addition to the Clinton Foundation donations, the New York Times also cited a $500,000 speaking fee paid to former president Bill Clinton by a Russian investment bank in June 2010, before the Uranium One deal was approved:

    The $500,000 fee — among Mr. Clinton’s highest — was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that has invited world leaders, including Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, to speak at its investor conferences.

    Renaissance Capital analysts talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a “buy” rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets.
    Do you think this deal should be rescinded and Russia cut out of the US uranium business altogether?

    Yes or no.

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    Between October 14 and October 20, we examined 58 unique URLs that were promoted by Kremlin-oriented Twitter accounts. The most prominent theme (24% of all URLs shared) was the probe into the sale of a uranium mining company to Russia's Atomic Energy Agency that was approved by the Obama administration in 2010. The original reporting by The Hill was a top URL for several consecutive days, all other URLs shared promoted some variation on a theme of corruption, collusion, cover-up by the Clinton-led State Department and/or the Mueller-led FBI (#ClintonRussianCollusion was also a top hashtag last week).
    http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/

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    Do you think this deal should be rescinded and Russia cut out of the US uranium business altogether?

    Yes or no.
    Your question is irrelevant to the current conversation of whether or not Uranium One money was flowing to the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State.

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    Your question is irrelevant to the current conversation of whether or not Uranium One money was flowing to the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State.
    Dodge #1.

    Sorry, you've already said that this deal never would've gone through had the bribery/kickback scheme been made public.

    So should the deal now be rescinded since you claim it never should've happened in the first place?

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    What was Politico's agenda when publishing the story? And sorry wrong again, I'm not on 4chan or part of a troll army either.
    What is your agenda pushing that in a thread about the sitting presidents collusion with Russia?

    Only seems relevant in a whataboutism sense, noted Russian propaganda move. Russia is pushing this story, or was up until the latest terrorist attack. Now they are using that to bash immigrants to the US.

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    even if she didn't....lock her up so I can focus on trump getting kicked around.

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    can we get this thread stickied? who is the mod here?

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    What was Politico's agenda when publishing the story? And sorry wrong again, I'm not on 4chan or part of a troll army either.
    ar15.com?

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    Dodge #1.

    Sorry, you've already said that this deal never would've gone through had the bribery/kickback scheme been made public.

    So should the deal now be rescinded since you claim it never should've happened in the first place?
    Asking an irrelevant question repeatedly isn't going to magically make it relevant to the conversation at hand.

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    can we get this thread stickied? who is the mod here?
    hey trill, what do you think about the white house statement "manafort was a crook long before he ran my campaign"

    thats some WILD right there. what do you make of it?

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    even if she didn't....lock her up so I can focus on trump getting kicked around.
    c'mon man, that wouldn't help. She could fall over dead, and they would prop up her moldering corpse to shout at it in order to ignore the assault on our country, simply because that assault benefited someone with a magic "R" behind their name.

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    Asking an irrelevant question repeatedly isn't going to magically make it relevant to the conversation at hand.
    Dodge #2.

    That's rich since all you are trying to do here is interject the irrelevant Uranium One "scandal" into the conversation about the Trump administration.

    Three indictments, one conviction and counting.

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    c'mon man, that wouldn't help. She could fall over dead, and they would prop up her moldering corpse to shout at it in order to ignore the assault on our country, simply because that assault benefited someone with a magic "R" behind their name.
    well, lets make sure she falls over dead. then we can judge the rest of it.

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