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    Details? How do you know what Russia spent on bots?

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    Details? How do you know what Russia spent on bots?
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    Lol ar15 + DC holy
    Best part about it is that your the third person to quote that and the third person to ignore the quotes are from direct testimony which is also linked.

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    Details? How do you know what Russia spent on bots?
    Pretty simple and no math needed to come to the conclusion that CTR spent more on bots than Russia. Silly to even ask the question considering CTR's budget

    https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/loo...997&cycle=2016

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    Add on shariablue and paid bots/posters. Its not even close. You will still pretend you care though

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    Pretty simple and no math needed to come to the conclusion that CTR spent more on bots than Russia. Silly to even ask the question considering CTR's budget

    https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/loo...997&cycle=2016
    It's really not silly. Which of these expenditures covers "bots"?

    Sector Description Total Expenditures
    Administrative Administrative consulting $391,978
    Administrative travel & lodging $306,395
    Administrative data & technology $51,811
    Rent, utilities & office expenses $15,631
    Contributions Contributions to committees $400,000
    Contributions to federal candidates $62,000
    Contributions to state & local parties $5,050
    Miscellaneous contributions $1,000
    Fundraising Fundraising consulting $1,154,594
    Fundraising events $54,727
    Fundraising fees $17,075
    Media Media consulting $226,442
    Web ads $13,740
    Media production $7,590
    Salaries Salaries, wages & benefits $3,866,109
    Strategy & Research Campaign strategy & communications consulting $458,715
    Campaign data & technology $40,838
    Polling & surveys $13,500
    Unclassifiable Unclassifiable printing & shipping $57,741

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    Add on shariablue and paid bots/posters. Its not even close. You will still pretend you care though
    You made the claim, not me. And none of this shows that Twitter was biased in hiding bot activity.

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    It's really not silly. Which of these expenditures covers "bots"?

    Sector Description Total Expenditures
    Administrative Administrative consulting $391,978
    Administrative travel & lodging $306,395
    Administrative data & technology $51,811
    Rent, utilities & office expenses $15,631
    Contributions Contributions to committees $400,000
    Contributions to federal candidates $62,000
    Contributions to state & local parties $5,050
    Miscellaneous contributions $1,000
    Fundraising Fundraising consulting $1,154,594
    Fundraising events $54,727
    Fundraising fees $17,075
    Media Media consulting $226,442
    Web ads $13,740
    Media production $7,590
    Salaries Salaries, wages & benefits $3,866,109
    Strategy & Research Campaign strategy & communications consulting $458,715
    Campaign data & technology $40,838
    Polling & surveys $13,500
    Unclassifiable Unclassifiable printing & shipping $57,741
    why aren't bots or troll armies listed in expenditures

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    why aren't bots or troll armies listed in expenditures
    I'm not suggesting they would be specifically listed as such, I'm just asking which of those categories they would likely fall under, unless you are accusing them of being fraudulent in reporting their spend.

    Would it be the $13K for web ads? $40K for campaign data and technology? This is your link that you offered as evidence, I'm just trying to better understand it.

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    Are you trying to argue Russia was more influential on twitter than CTR/Shariablue?

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    Are you trying to argue Russia was more influential on twitter than CTR/Shariablue?
    I don't have enough information to make such an argument, which is why I said "I don't know" a dozen posts ago. You seem to have more information and certainty than I have.

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    I don't have enough information to make such an argument, which is why I said "I don't know" a dozen posts ago. You seem to have more information and certainty than I have.
    you would if you'd read the testimony earlier.

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    Are you trying to argue Russia was more influential on twitter than CTR/Shariablue?
    Agreeing that Russia meddled in the election.

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    Agreeing that Russia meddled in the election.
    baby steps

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    you would if you'd read the testimony earlier.
    The testimony doesn't say anything about CTR, nor Shareblue, nor about how much Russia spent on bots.

    So are we done with CTR's budget? I'm just trying to keep up.

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    The testimony doesn't say anything about CTR, nor Shareblue, nor about how much Russia spent on bots.

    So are we done with CTR's budget? I'm just trying to keep up.
    You've got estimated amounts spent for Russian ads along with CTR budget you really going to try playing dumb?

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    You've got estimated amounts spent for Russian ads along with CTR budget you really going to try playing dumb?
    Are we talking about ads now? Ads are fundamentally different things vs. bots, as I'm sure you know.

    I still don't know how much of CTR's budget was spent on bots.

    Look, this was your claim. Either you know or you don't. Seems like you might be making some assumptions.

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    Agreeing that Russia meddled in the election.
    Never once disputed Russia meddled in our election. To think otherwise would be ignoring decades of evidence.

    Facebook/twitter/pokemon go = collusion

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    Are we talking about ads now? Ads are fundamentally different things vs. bots, as I'm sure you know.
    Total spent

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    The only spend reported in the testimony is ad spend. Twitter would have no way of knowing what Russia or CTR spent on developing bots to organically tweet and share content.

    RT sure spent a of a lot on Twitter advertising, though. More than CTR spent on total advertising, it would seem, from the link you shared.

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    Never once disputed Russia meddled in our election. To think otherwise would be ignoring decades of evidence.

    Facebook/twitter/pokemon go = collusion
    Someone should tell the potus POS that.

    I guess the president must be some ing dumb at this point.

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    Either he is the biggest sack of of all time...

    Or he actually colluded with the Russians.

    Either way, he's ed.

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    Ex-FBI senior official explains why Mueller is ‘much closer to the Oval Office than many of us realized’

    “Well, there’s clearly a pathway that he’s got planned out, and we’re seeing it unfold right now,” Figliuzzi noted.

    “And one of the things that I think we’re all realizing is that the Mueller team is much farther along in this investigation and much closer to the Oval Office than many of us realized.”


    Figliuzzi explained a distinction between former Trump associates and current staffers.


    “What we’re learning, even today, is that people that I call the formers —

    former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus, former White House spokesman Sean er, former interim National Security Advisor Keith Kellogg —

    are all voluntarily working with or being interviewed by the Mueller team,” Figliuzzi explained.


    “This is a sign that he’s penetrated into the White House,” Figliuzzi noted.

    “These are the people who were savvy, in meetings, privy to knowledge.

    For example, Reince Priebus was White House chief of staff when Trump decided to fire FBI Director James Comey. What does he know about that?”


    As damaging as former staffers may be, Figliuzzi explained that Trump may have more to fear from his current communications director.


    “But let me tell you something, the appearance of Hope Hicks and the likelihood she’s about to be interviewed when she returns from a foreign trip with the president should worry President Trump perhaps more than anyone else,” Figliuzzi noted.

    “Why? All of the people we just named are formers.

    They don’t have this lovefest with the president, they in fact have issues with the president,” Figliuzzi observed.

    “Hope Hicks has been with Trump and the Trump Organization since 2014.

    She’s a 29-year-old young lady, she’s about to undergo the most stressful part of her life, being interviewed by the special counsel team.

    She sits in the most sensitive meetings, the most critical media interviews the president has.”


    “She knows more than we think she knows,”

    “If you look at this through a counterintelligence lens, you see the fingerprints of the Russian government here,”

    “I think [Paul Manafort] got a primer on how the Russians can influence a campaign when he represented the Ukrainian candidate, and

    he saw what Russia could do to manipulate a campaign and he liked it,”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/ex-...e+Raw+Story%29

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