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    Speaking of dead credibility...

    <insert CNN,MSNBC,ESPN reporter here>. Sad!
    fify

    Explain why Tucker isn't credible.

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    lol

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    Russia hackers had targets worldwide, beyond US election

    targeting the emails of Ukrainian officers, Russian opposition figures, U.S. defense contractors and thousands of others of interest to the Kremlin,

    “It’s a wish list of who you’d want to target to further Russian interests,”

    “a master list of individuals whom Russia would like to spy on, embarrass, discredit or silence.”

    The AP findings draw on a database of 19,000 malicious links collected by cybersecurity firm Secureworks, dozens of rogue emails, and interviews with more than 100 hacking targets.

    https://www.apnews.com/3bca5267d4544...gEmail__110217

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/putins-real-long-game-214589

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    It's really not silly. Which of these expenditures covers "bots"?

    Sector Description Total Expenditures
    Administrative Administrative consulting $391,978
    Administrative travel & lodging $306,395
    Administrative data & technology $51,811
    Rent, utilities & office expenses $15,631
    Contributions Contributions to committees $400,000
    Contributions to federal candidates $62,000
    Contributions to state & local parties $5,050
    Miscellaneous contributions $1,000
    Fundraising Fundraising consulting $1,154,594
    Fundraising events $54,727
    Fundraising fees $17,075
    Media Media consulting $226,442
    Web ads $13,740
    Media production $7,590
    Salaries Salaries, wages & benefits $3,866,109
    Strategy & Research Campaign strategy & communications consulting $458,715
    Campaign data & technology $40,838
    Polling & surveys $13,500
    Unclassifiable Unclassifiable printing & shipping $57,741
    You could bury it anywhere, depending on how you wanted to classify the invoice, likely under the strategy and research or media.

    Since the bots aren't an "ad" per se, and presumably, you might pay a consultant to do it for you, it might be lumped in on one of those lines. If the bot was run under paid employees the expense may be buried in salaries.

    Depending on how cagy they wanted to be, I would start looking at invoices and job les to get at an exact number, with an attempt at linking dates of invoices to bot activity.

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    fify

    Explain why Tucker isn't credible.
    He works for Fox News.


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    What is your agenda pushing that in a thread about the sitting presidents collusion with Russia?

    Only seems relevant in a whataboutism sense, noted Russian propaganda move. Russia is pushing this story, or was up until the latest terrorist attack. Now they are using that to bash immigrants to the US.
    If we are going to be discussing Manafort's indictment in this thread why wouldn't we be discussing company A and company B involvement brought up in his indictment? One of which is Podesta's company.
    Not really an answer. Now I am curious.

    What is your motivation of bringing up this, in a thread about a sitting president potentially colluding with a hostile foreign government?

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    You've got estimated amounts spent for Russian ads along with CTR budget you really going to try playing dumb?
    How much money did Russia pay the trolls?

    If we want to talk about effort and expenditures, surely the salaries of paid employees, or free lancers would be relevant to assess this.

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    I'm just correcting the record on RG's claim no money was flowing into Clinton Foundation from Uranium One.
    No, my claim was the dude running it gave money after he sold the company.

    Now, tell me exactly how Hillary Clinton benefitted from any money given to a non-profit charitable organization that spends 88% of all its receipts on actual charity.

    You stupid mother ers keep harping on this , and actively ignoring the conflicts of interest of the Trump organization. What kind of partisan c unt does that?

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    The White House Admits That Trump Impeachment Is A Realistic Possibility

    People inside the White House are distancing themselves from Trump and admitting that the impeachment of the President had become a real possibility.

    Gabriel Sherman of Vanity Fair reported,

    “For the first time since the investigation began, the prospect of impeachment is being considered as a realistic outcome and not just a liberal fever dream.

    According to a source, advisers in the West Wing are on edge and doing whatever they can not to be ensnared.

    One person close to Dina Powell and Gary Cohn said they’re making sure to leave rooms if the subject of Russia comes up.”

    Sherman also reported that the White House sees few good options for stopping Mueller.

    Trump is raging, raving, and blaming Jared Kushner for his problems,

    but there is the only person to blame for this scandal, and that is Donald Trump.

    It is Trump whose odd behavior, and

    denial of the hacking and Russian involvement in the election drew the FBI’s attention.

    It was Trump who fired James Comey, and

    it is Trump who has relentlessly tried to shut down the Russia investigation.


    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/...iticus+USA+%29

    Trash apparently doesn't drink alcohol or smoke because of his brother Freddy, but I wonder how many and what pills Trash is on.





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    Manafort was one degree of separation away from ‘the most dangerous mobster in the world’

    The Daily Beast’s Betsy Woodruff reports that the link comes through Manafort’s use of Cypress-based Lucicle Consultants Limited to wire millions of dollars into the United States.

    This is relevant because Lucicle also received millions of dollars from Ukrainian parliamentarian Ivan Fursin, who has close ties to Semion Mogilevich, a Russian mobster whom Woodruff notes is often called “the most dangerous mobster in the world.”


    While all the sources of money that Manafort wired through Lucicle aren’t precisely known,

    Woodruff explains that at least some of it seems to have come from Fursin,

    as the Ukrainian politician is tied to an offshore en y called Mistaro Ventures that the New York Times earlier this year reported “transferred millions to Lucicle in February 2012 shortly before Lucicle made the $9.9 million loan to Jesand L.L.C.,

    a Delaware company that Mr. Manafort previously used to buy real estate in New York.”


    The bottom line, explains retired IRS criminal investigator Martin Shiel to Woodruff, is that Mueller’s indictment this week

    “strongly indicates the existence of a previously unknown relationship between an alleged Russian organized crime leader and Mr. Manafort.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/man...e+Raw+Story%29



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    Is Trump trapped? He’s hemmed in by bad advice, with no way out

    He’d love to fire Bob Mueller (and Jeff Sessions) but knows he can’t. Outlandish Hillary theories won’t save him

    Gallup's daily tracking poll hit a new low this week: 33 percent.

    Trump's longtime friend and adviser, Sam Nunberg, told
    Vanity Fair's Gabriel Sherman,

    "You can't go any lower. He's ed."

    “He thinks it’s unfair criticism. Clinton hasn’t gotten anything like this. And what about Tony Podesta?

    Trump is like,


    When is that going to end?”

    That certainly does sound like him.

    Infantile petulance, attempts to cast blame and whining about the unfairness of others

    are his trademarks.The president is also borderline-delusional when he insists that he isn't under investigation.

    The Washington Post
    reported last June that Mueller is investigating Trump for obstruction of justice for his attempts to shut down the Michael Flynn investigation and for the firing of former FBI director James Comey, among other things.

    The president is soon leaving town for a couple of weeks for his big Asia trip, which reportedly has his aides beside themselves, since they know that his unpredictable and ill-mannered behavior could easily cause an international incident in a region where protocol is extremely important.

    “You never know what he’ll say,” an administration official said, adding that the grueling schedule could heighten the risk of mistakes. An outside adviser to the administration concurred: “The potential for error is huge.”

    https://www.salon.com/2017/11/02/is-trump-trapped-hes-hemmed-in-by-bad-advice-with-no-way-out/



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    How did Trump’s goofy, morbidly obese, kakistocrat extraordinaire USDA pick end up in the middle of the Russia scandal?



    Sam Clovis, Trump’s dubious pick as USDA science chief, is also deeply entwined in Russian intrigue

    NBC News reported that Sam Clovis — a failed politician and far-right talk radio host from Iowa who had worked on the Trump campaign — was brought in last week to testify in front of the grand jury that Mueller has impaneled.

    As
    Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo noted, it appears

    Clovis was central to the selection of the infamous five foreign policy "experts" Trump hired as advisers during his campaign.

    "We now know that two of those five men immediately began trying to establish contacts between the Trump campaign and the government of Russia or spies working on behalf of Russia,"

    Clovis reportedly had direct communications with George Papadopoulos, the Trump foreign policy aide who recently pled guilty for lying to the FBI,

    Leaked communications between Clovis and Papadopoulos indicate that Clovis was a big fan of Papadopoulos' Russia work,

    Clovis was already on the radar of scientists and environmentalists who are deeply concerned about the threat he poses to America's food supply.

    That's because President Trump appointed Clovis to be chief scientist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture, even though

    Clovis has no scientific credentials and appears to have no relationship whatever to the agricultural industry,

    outside of being a dude from a Corn Belt state.

    https://www.salon.com/2017/11/02/how-did-trumps-goofy-usda-pick-end-up-in-the-middle-of-the-russia-scandal/

    Clovis is fighter pilot grad of US Air Force Academy!



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    Paul Manafort is charged with violating a law enacted to fight Nazi propaganda


    The Foreign Agent Registration Act, the obscure statute used to charge Paul Manafort, explained.


    The Foreign Agent Registration Act has a simple purpose. It requires lobbyists and other groups representing and advocating on behalf of foreign governments to disclose those activities to the government and then the public.

    The law was passed nearly 80 years ago to prevent meddling by a foreign dictatorship in American elections and politics. The charge is politically explosive:

    Mueller claims Manafort and Gates were acting as undisclosed agents of a foreign power, the pro-Russian government of Ukraine.

    “FARA was enacted in 1938 in response to recommendations of a special congressional committee investigating anti-American activities in the United States,” the report states, alluding to the House Un-American Affairs Committee (HUAC), which would later become infamous in the post-World War II Red Scare.

    Before HUAC began focusing exclusively on communists, it was interested in fascist influence in the US through groups like the German American Bund, which would eventually hold a
    20,000-person pro-Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden in 1939.

    The committee concluded that

    “the Nazi German government had established an extensive underground propaganda apparatus using American firms and citizens,”

    according to the inspector general’s report — and FARA was enacted to try to stop it.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16581950/foreign-agent-registration-act-manafort-gates-ukraine



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    Pootin takes another scalp!

    Trump’s HOG from IOWA for USDA science chief withdraws after being caught up in Mueller’s Russia investigation

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/tru...investigation/




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    Pootin takes another scalp!

    Trump’s HOG from IOWA for USDA science chief withdraws after being caught up in Mueller’s Russia investigation

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/tru...investigation/



    Yeah, a senate hearing isn't exactly what they'd want from Porkins there.

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    US 'to charge six Russian officials' over election hack

    The US Justice Department has gathered enough evidence to charge six members of the Russian government in the hacking of Democratic National Committee computers before last year's presidential election, the Wall Street Journal reported.

    By identifying individual Russian military and intelligence hackers with charges the US could make it difficult for them to travel, but arresting and jailing them would be unlikely.

    The hacking investigation, conducted by cybersecurity experts, predates the appointment in May of special counsel Robert Mueller to lead the probe of alleged Russian meddling in the election, and possible collusion with President Donald Trump's campaign.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...election-hack/

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    Yeah, a senate hearing isn't exactly what they'd want from Porkins there.
    The list of incompetent boobs being put in charge of our government is disgusting. It would have been good theater watching him get grilled. (insert sizzling sound here)

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    aw, that's just mean...

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    Grassley BOOMed right into an American flag dodging Manafort questions.
    When questions reared their ugly heads, Brave Sir Grassley turned tail and fled...



    I'm sure the Republicans will be all over the Russian interference. Chaffiz is on the case.

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    Not really an answer. Now I am curious.

    What is your motivation of bringing up this, in a thread about a sitting president potentially colluding with a hostile foreign government?
    You seem to have no problem discussing the Manafort indictment even though none of the charges have anything to do with the election. I already suggested earlier the indictment have its own thread.

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    You seem to have no problem discussing the Manafort indictment even though none of the charges have anything to do with the election. I already suggested earlier the indictment have its own thread.
    Grassley was not afraid at all to dodge in artful ways. Brave brave brave sir Grassley...

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    You seem to have no problem discussing the Manafort indictment even though none of the charges have anything to do with the election. I already suggested earlier the indictment have its own thread.
    Do the charges give the prosecutor leverage to extract information regarding others' actions during the election? Yes or no mother er.
    .

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