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    Hate to say it but with Forbes, Patty should be traded. Gotta let Patty beef up his trade value tho. Their the same player basically, but Patty waves towels, is foreign, is friends with Manu, he screams with passion into his fists, and he moves like the tasmanian devil.
    Forbes has been an awful NBA player. PATFO clearly likes him but he struggles shooting in the big leagues:

    FG%-35.8%

    3PT %-31.7%

    2pt FG%
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    Net Rtg
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    in 43 games, 353 minutes.

    Still Mills has been trash this season, so far and it's seems doubtful that he returns o last season levels.

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    Forbes has been an awful NBA player. PATFO clearly likes him but he struggles shooting in the big leagues:

    FG%-35.8%

    3PT %-31.7%

    2pt FG%
    -40.0%

    Net Rtg
    -16

    in 43 games, 353 minutes.

    Still Mills has been trash this season, so far and it's seems doubtful that he returns o last season levels.
    I realize that Forbes lacks a proven track record at this level, doesn't have the cache as a prospect to be given every opportunity to succeed and Summer League isn't the equivalent of regular season, but 123 FG's and 63 3PT's spread incrementally over 1+ seasons, is not enough to conclude that he struggles shooting in the NBA. Could easily be viewed through the lens of a shooting slump. Of course, sooner than later, he'll actually have to prove otherwise to stick long term.

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    I realize that Forbes lacks a proven track record at this level, doesn't have the cache as a prospect to be given every opportunity to succeed and Summer League isn't the equivalent of regular season, but 123 FG's and 63 3PT's spread incrementally over 1+ seasons, is not enough to conclude that he struggles shooting in the NBA. Could easily be viewed through the lens of a shooting slump. Of course, sooner than later, he'll actually have to prove otherwise to stick long term.
    You just said it yourself. No track record. Murray and Forbes would be total trash right now. FYI.

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    I realize that Forbes lacks a proven track record at this level, doesn't have the cache as a prospect to be given every opportunity to succeed and Summer League isn't the equivalent of regular season, but 123 FG's and 63 3PT's spread incrementally over 1+ seasons, is not enough to conclude that he struggles shooting in the NBA. Could easily be viewed through the lens of a shooting slump. Of course, sooner than later, he'll actually have to prove otherwise to stick long term.
    Fair. Generally 1000 minutes over a season ( or two in this case) is a decent sample size to draw a conclusion . Forbes has only played 353 minutes in 43 game, it would be a very long shooting slump to explain those numbers so I am doubtful of that.

    I do wonder if the speed of the game and the length of opposing players is something that he has had trouble of adjusting too along with sporadic minutes in the NBA and playing with quite a few different lineups all could be a factor but I don't see it with him thus far. He'll continue to get spot minutes but sooner rather than he may stop getting those if he continues to struggle.

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    Fair. Generally 1000 minutes over a season ( or two in this case) is a decent sample size to draw a conclusion . Forbes has only played 353 minutes in 43 game, it would be a very long shooting slump to explain those numbers so I am doubtful of that.

    I do wonder if the speed of the game and the length of opposing players is something that he has had trouble of adjusting too along with sporadic minutes in the NBA and playing with quite a few different lineups all could be a factor but I don't see it with him thus far. He'll continue to get spot minutes but sooner rather than he may stop getting those if he continues to struggle.
    Because his playing time has come sporadically, it's comes incrementally, so it's not really a long shooting slump.

    Obviously, he's not guaranteed to because of others, but if the likes of Seth Curry and Daniels, can make it, I don't see why he couldn't.

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    Forbes is trash.

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    Seth curry.

    Bum teams.

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    Forbes is trash.
    He's shooting 33% from the field and 30% from three.....

    and guess what....

    Those percentages are both better than Paddy's

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    He's shooting 33% from the field and 30% from three.....

    and guess what....

    Those percentages are both better than Paddy's
    But Patty shoots 60percentTS in the playoffs.

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    37.8 TS% against the team we're playing tonight

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    Porker fluffer.

    Porker went out and a rookie did a better job than him.

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    That's why they couldn't hold on to a 20 point lead for a half and got swept with the fat aboriginal starting

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    Atleast we had the lead. Porker would have had us down 28 at that point.

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    I really like Brandon Paul, but I'd rather have both him and Simmons. Would have been a way more versatile lineup.

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    Can BP3 play PG instead of DM? I mean this guy has ballhandling, can create and will spread the defense for the big guys. Seriously he is more composed than Dejounte's floater bankshots. Plus the intensity on this guy's way more.

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    ditch him.

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    I really like Brandon Paul, but I'd rather have both him and Simmons. Would have been a way more versatile lineup.
    Can we just go back in time, ditch Hamburger Patty, give his money to Simms, then bring in Paul to fill in the roster spot?

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    Yeah, Anderson has been downright putrid offensively. No improvement whatsoever, in aggressiveness, motor or quickness on release. So much for his supposed strength, play making. To top it all off, incredibly soft play around the rim, repeatedly being altered/blocked by guards.
    Kyle ting on this take tbh.

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    Kyle ting on this take tbh.
    Congratulations, he had one solid offensive performance. Everything I said still stands and he's still a net negative on that side of the ball though.

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    Congratulations, he had one solid offensive performance. Everything I said still stands and he's still a net negative on that side of the ball though.
    The entire team is in a funk though. He has scored in double digits 4 times in 8 games. I think he still needs to shoot, but he's no longer passive making no aggressive moves and showing no desire to score the basketball.

    Hopefully dude keeps on that trend. I don't think he's going to the doghouse like many want.. nor should he. There are worse players in this team getting playing time right now tbh

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    The entire team is in a funk though. He has scored in double digits 4 times in 8 games. I think he still needs to shoot, but he's no longer passive making no aggressive moves and showing no desire to score the basketball.

    Hopefully dude keeps on that trend. I don't think he's going to the doghouse like many want.. nor should he. There are worse players in this team getting playing time right now tbh
    Yeah, but politics will guarantee that they remain in the rotation. He doesn't have that going for him and they desperately need Bertans' shooting/scoring. There is a spot right now and could be one permanently, if they go away from Lauvergne (unlikely). Otherwise, with them determined to start Gasol, when Lauvergne returns, it's Anderson or Bertans.

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    Yeah, but politics will guarantee that they remain in the rotation. He doesn't have that going for him and they desperately need Bertans' shooting/scoring. There is a spot right now and could be one permanently, if they go away from Lauvergne (unlikely). Otherwise, with them determined to start Gasol, when Lauvergne returns, it's Anderson or Bertans.
    Bertans hasn't done squat. Frankly he's been on his own funk. I think he will eventually get opportunities, but to me Kyle has already gotten a head start on him. Still I do wish to see Bertans for myself. He's played insufficient minutes to say much about him IMO... but he hasn't looked good. It's not like Paul, who seized the opportunity like a bull by the horns.

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    Bertans hasn't done squat. Frankly he's been on his own funk. I think he will eventually get opportunities, but to me Kyle has already gotten a head start on him. Still I do wish to see Bertans for myself. He's played insufficient minutes to say much about him IMO... but he hasn't looked good. It's not like Paul, who seized the opportunity like a bull by the horns.
    Which one is it? Sure, he's struggled in severely limited viewing, but he's a shooter who'd been playing with a splint on his finger. He needs consistent minutes, not spot ones, where he's pulled because of match-up or because he didn't immediately catch fire.

    They need quick strike, explosive offense more than ever.

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    Which one is it? Sure, he's struggled in severely limited viewing, but he's a shooter who'd been playing with a splint on his finger. He needs consistent minutes, not spot ones, where he's pulled because of match-up or because he didn't immediately catch fire.

    They need quick strike, explosive offense more than ever.
    Both... he hasn't done squat (I took into account he got a lot of run in preseason too and his shooting was also putrid.) It's not just his defense or lack of rebounding, it's that he's a chucker.. He basically doesn't do anything else but shoot, and he doesn't generate shots for others. He's assisted on his shots by a huge percentage.

    But the reason is both, yea, it's still a small sample so maybe his shooting will bounce back, but at the same time, I do not know that he will be more diverse than he's shown though and there is nothing besides shooting that he does well so far, and some nights, not even that.

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    Both... he hasn't done squat (I took into account he got a lot of run in preseason too and his shooting was also putrid.) It's not just his defense or lack of rebounding, it's that he's a chucker.. He basically doesn't do anything else but shoot, and he doesn't generate shots for others. He's assisted on his shots by a huge percentage.

    But the reason is both, yea, it's still a small sample so maybe his shooting will bounce back, but at the same time, I do not know that he will be more diverse than he's shown though and there is nothing besides shooting that he does well so far, and some nights, not even that.
    This team is so inept offensively right now, that they could use anyone who can shoot or score. They don't (or shouldn't think, at least) have the luxury of nitpicking him or Forbes for that matter. It's either give them a legit shot or keep living in the past, trying to scrape out 90 a game and getting blown out.

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