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    I think PtR may have accidentally stumbled on a good topic. The BG isn't coming back due to shooting (because, , they aren't shooting well in the first place). But the potential for it to come back is there. If Green's game holds up, the team will have more competent slashers than they have recently. Danny, Patty, Kyle, Bryn and DeJounte just need to be locked in mentally at the right time, and the team needs to have the right at ude scheme-wise for it to happen. But seeing a Green who not only drives for the first time in six years but who also is moving without the ball a ton more than he has since 2014-2015 gives hope. Playing small as a default should help as well. Kyle has always been keen to dump off to other bigs, and Rudy is at least trying to fit in with that too.

    I'm not saying it's going to come back, but you could totally see Kawhi posting up, Tony's man helping so Kawhi passes to Parker, who drives and kicks to Green, who attacks the close-out and dumps to Gay, who scoops to LMA for an open dunk. That actually seems realistic now, which is kind of amazing considering that they didn't get the penetrating guard I have been pushing for for years now.
    The beautiful game does not exist until picks get set and contact is made. They can get a good look here and there through ball movement, but until we get consistent screens it will be more stand around

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    well this thread caused me to go back and watch all those John Rambo 'unstoppable' highlights of the 2014 season
    as if it wasn't enough to be a fan of the most successful franchise in ports, that also happened to be a small market underdog; we also got to be a fans of the one and only beautiful game, that 2014 season will not be matched.

    was a good run

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    "come back to the beatiful game"

    Midrange Aldridge getting 20 shots per game.
    shooting 30% from three.
    turning the ball over like nobody's business
    can't even crack 100

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    The Beautiful Game relied on:

    1) Parker/Ginobili able to dribble penetrate at a relatively high level (Parker's decline resulted in huge decline to TBG and resulted in our loss to Clippers in 2015, game 6 vs Rockets aside, the Clippers could have won it all that year if CP3 stayed healthy)
    2) Duncan one of the greatest screeners (one of his most underrated trais) in league's history, even at his advanced age his screens were rock solid and did not abuse moving screen rules like GS
    3) Just all around stability/cohesiveness/chemistry/teamwork big three brought to the table from a decade plus of playing together, this made up for their decline in athleticism to a large degree

    Without it:

    The current Spurs team is better off playing Memphis style grind it out and the style has been proved to be successful against GS. It is unfortunate we allocated too much money to Gasol and Mills and like Memphis, just don't have enough raw talent.

    Who knows maybe treating Pau well is part of a ploy to get Marc? If we had Marc Gasol or Demarcus Cousins instead of Pau, when Leonard comes back we have a shot against GS.

    Heck even with 2012-2014 Duncan we may have a chance. Out-of-prime Duncan is still such an amazing all-around defensive anchor and having him alongside Aldridge just dominates.

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    Pau wont screen. Just throw him in the high post after a lma down screen and let him move the ball. Hes got better court vision than patty or deejuuuntahye

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    "come back to the beatiful game"

    Midrange Aldridge getting 20 shots per game.
    shooting 30% from three.
    turning the ball over like nobody's business
    can't even crack 100
    I have to agree to a degree... the reason it's to a degree is that since the team doesn't have Kawhi they have featured Aldridge and others more than they perhaps intended anyways, so I will withhold a final judgment until everyone is healthy and Pop is playing how he really intended to, then we shall see.
    The reason I agree even without casting final judgement (thus the "degree") is that I think if you took this Aldridge and placed it in that 2014 team, they would have played very differently anyways to fit him in it and BG wouldn't have been there.

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    The beautiful game does not exist until picks get set and contact is made. They can get a good look here and there through ball movement, but until we get consistent screens it will be more stand around
    Lamarcus is a very poor screen setter. He always wants to slip the screen to pop and he doesn't roll hard either. I saw very little of Joffrey since he got injured quickly, but the one thing I noticed in the few minutes I saw him was that he set good screens... perhaps that is what Manu had been missing these few games that he wasn't playing well... (and Patty).

    Surprisingly, Kyle sets good screens at times.

    Davis doesn't set good screens... he also wants to slip the screen to pop and he's very light and guys go around him really easily.

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    Lamarcus is a very poor screen setter. He always wants to slip the screen to pop and he doesn't roll hard either. I saw very little of Joffrey since he got injured quickly, but the one thing I noticed in the few minutes I saw him was that he set good screens... perhaps that is what Manu had been missing these few games that he wasn't playing well... (and Patty).

    Surprisingly, Kyle sets good screens at times.

    Davis doesn't set good screens... he also wants to slip the screen to pop and he's very light and guys go around him really easily.
    I agree with manu.

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    Lma is too limited for anything remotely close to beautiful game.

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    I have to agree to a degree... the reason it's to a degree is that since the team doesn't have Kawhi they have featured Aldridge and others more than they perhaps intended anyways, so I will withhold a final judgment until everyone is healthy and Pop is playing how he really intended to, then we shall see.
    The reason I agree even without casting final judgement (thus the "degree") is that I think if you took this Aldridge and placed it in that 2014 team, they would have played very differently anyways to fit him in it and BG wouldn't have been there.
    The artcile, or piece of writting, or whatever this is, was written during and because of the preseason, where Kawhi didn't play either.

    Once Kawhi comes back, the Spurs will play even less of the beatiful game because there you have another another guy that will be having a high usage %.

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    You need selfless hard workers to pull off the beautiful game, tbh... much easier when we had Tiago, Boris, and Kawhi wasn't the star that he is today... it ain't happening with more touches LMA and black hole Rudy, IMO...

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    They didn't realize that Boris and Tiago's passing ability (and to a lesser extent Marco Belinelli's unheralded cutting skill) is what allowed that offense to work. Duncan was a superb passer as well. Ginobili's and Parker's ball-handling was crucial to that offense. Green's, Mills', Belinelli's, and Ginobili's threat from deep provided the spacing.
    give me a break.

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    give me a break.
    I guess you disregarded the modifier... to "a lesser extent"... how convenient.

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    I guess you disregarded the modifier... to "a lesser extent"... how convenient.
    he's been a proven cancer, stop trying to forget what was already accepted.

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    he's been a proven cancer, stop trying to forget what was already accepted.
    Him being a turnstile on defense does not equate to him being a cancer. The "Beautiful Game" was played on the offensive end of the floor and didn't necessitate strong play on the defensive end of the floor - sure the Spurs ALSO excelled on that end but that was a plus. There are many examples of the "Beautiful Game" offense out there on YouTube where Marco is on the floor. THAT was the point of my other comment.

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    Him being a turnstile on defense does not equate to him being a cancer. The "Beautiful Game" was played on the offensive end of the floor and didn't necessitate strong play on the defensive end of the floor - sure the Spurs ALSO excelled on that end but that was a plus. There are many examples of the "Beautiful Game" offense out there on YouTube where Marco is on the floor. THAT was the point of my other comment.
    Raven is just going through the motions with his Beli hate. He's been doing it for years now. Just let him have this.

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    Him being a turnstile on defense does not equate to him being a cancer. The "Beautiful Game" was played on the offensive end of the floor and didn't necessitate strong play on the defensive end of the floor - sure the Spurs ALSO excelled on that end but that was a plus. There are many examples of the "Beautiful Game" offense out there on YouTube where Marco is on the floor. THAT was the point of my other comment.
    i know and i acknowledge that, it still bothers me to that anyone would remember him in a somewhat positive light, given how awful he was for us.

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