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    Atleast try what? A total firearm confiscation?
    Australia did

    But doing nothing is not working.

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    Misogynist Repugs LIE that they are pro-life (regulating women's sex life, ovaries, vaginas with no regulating men's s or men ing women), but are really pro-birth.

    More guns always equals more gun violence. So TX Repugs wanting everybody to buy guns to carry in churches are wanting more gun violence everywhere, as they are paid to promote by BigGun industry.

    The church shooter and whoever sold him the (many) gun(s) broke TX law that denies guns to dishonorable discharge vets.

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    Tbh you are all being manipulated.

    This is probably another mentally ill candidate on psycotropic anti-depressants. Perhaps had deep state help. Yes that is the world we live in. Agendas are being served.

    I mean, lol, somehow the investigation for Vegas has just stopped receiving coverage, but was full of incorrect inconsistencies like the timeline. Oh, where is the ballastics evidence? The proof of one shooter from the guns found? They never released the San Bernardino tests either. Surprise surprise.

    Only give up your weapons when the police and military give up all of theirs. The “rest of the world” is a mess. Read John Lott. You can’t compare a new world nation to genous Western Europe. Compare us to Brazil. And you will see far lower gun crime here.

    ps These are not conspiracy theories anymore. These are facts. How many of you have ever read the CIA Assassination manual? It’s 100% genuine and was released in 1994 or so after the JFK movie. Read how they contrve lone wolfs and accidents. They are above nothing.

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    Misogynist Repugs LIE that they are pro-life (regulating women's sex life, ovaries, vaginas with no regulating men's s or men ing women), but are really pro-birth.

    More guns always equals more gun violence. So TX Repugs wanting everybody to buy guns to carry in churches are wanting more gun violence everywhere, as they are paid to promote by BigGun industry.

    The church shooter and whoever sold him the (many) gun(s) broke TX law that denies guns to dishonorable discharge vets.
    Both dems and repubs don't give a crap about the people tbh

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    Killer was an atheist who hated religion, apparently.

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    Tbh you are all being manipulated.

    This is probably another mentally ill candidate on psycotropic anti-depressants. Perhaps had deep state help. Yes that is the world we live in. Agendas are being served.

    I mean, lol, somehow the investigation for Vegas has just stopped receiving coverage, but was full of incorrect inconsistencies like the timeline. Oh, where is the ballastics evidence? The proof of one shooter from the guns found? They never released the San Bernardino tests either. Surprise surprise.

    Only give up your weapons when the police and military give up all of theirs. The “rest of the world” is a mess. Read John Lott. You can’t compare a new world nation to genous Western Europe. Compare us to Brazil. And you will see far lower gun crime here.

    ps These are not conspiracy theories anymore. These are facts. How many of you have ever read the CIA Assassination manual? It’s 100% genuine and was released in 1994 or so after the JFK movie. Read how they contrve lone wolfs and accidents. They are above nothing.
    lone wolf


    cuckasians

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    Australia did

    But doing nothing is not working.
    That's not going to happen though. Hate that some people need the need to do things like that. Sickening

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    Can't trust anyone with neckbeard
    Foreign or domestic..

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    Could this be white flags? Sure. We just released CIA docs that were planning terrorist white flag attacks by Cubans to justify war with them. Those are facts


    Still... I say we ban all caucassians from entering the USA till we find out what the is going on

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    Could this be white flags? Sure. We just released CIA docs that were planning terrorist white flag attacks by Cubans to justify war with them. Those are facts


    Still... I say we ban all caucassians from entering the USA till we find out what the is going on
    TBH

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    Sad that this stems from a family/domestic violence dispute. Not sure why some dudes can't control their temper in hitting their wives. I've been married a long time and that thought has never crossed my mind. And then when he destroys his relationship, he somehow feels en led to not only kill his in-laws, but everyone in the congregation. Obviously, he was out of his mind crazy, but he was patient enough to get his weapons and drive a distance to the church. He was lucid enough to think of killing a bunch of people and he would have done it. Scary that a dude like this lives in our backyard. He could have randomly gone anywhere in San Antonio and done the same thing.

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    And bull like this is why nothing will be done
    Just because you don’t like it you call it bull but the man speaks the truth. We not Sweden or Finland we are a whole bunch of different races and cultures which is leading to violence and more violence in the future. People always want to compare us to little Europe countries but compare us to Mexico who has harsh gun laws or Brazil and use those countries as a comparison.

    Its sad sad so many innocent people have to die but banning guns is like banning drugs it ain’t going to work. I am all for more support for mintental illness and this Air Force crazy guy should have never gotten a gun with a dishonorable discharge.

    I am a pro gun guy ex military but even I am thinking that buying military type arms needs to be stricter then buying a .22 pistol.
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    washington post? You believe them?

    The idea that real journalism exists in corporate media.... is a joke

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    And bull like this is why nothing will be done
    Just because you don’t like it you call it bull but the man speaks the truth. We not Sweden or Finland we are a whole bunch of different races and cultures which is leading to violence and more violence in the future. People always want to compare us to little Europe countries but compare us to Mexico who has harsh gun laws or Brazil and use those countries as a comparison.

    Its sad sad so many innocent people have to die but banning guns is like banning drugs it ain’t going to work. I am all for more support for mintental illness and this Air Force crazy guy should have never gotten a gun with a dishorable discharge

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    It was an armed local citizen that stopped his attack made him drop his rifle, and run. No telling how much more carnage would have continued. Just a reminder for those calling for a gun ban. Murder is also banned yet it doesn't stop people that want to kill from doing it.

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    It was an armed local citizen that stopped his attack made him drop his rifle, and run. No telling how much more carnage would have continued. Just a reminder for those calling for a gun ban. Murder is also banned yet it doesn't stop people that want to kill from doing it.
    He was done killing by then. It was OVER. He and another guy followed the killer , but it was very much after the fact.

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    Build that wall ASAP

    Keep mexico safe
    Your comment makes no sense despite the trite, misplaced need for wanting to mock Trump with some 'witty burn' loosely related to this tragedy. SMDH.

    It wantonly ignores the very evil deeds carried out by the cartels/mercenaries/rogue cops/rogue military down in Mexico. Here are just a few examples of those malevolent atrocities committed during the last 7 years (notoriously during the "Fast and Furious" period):

    June, 2010 - Over 55 people executed (shot) in Taxco, Guerrero.

    June 25th, 2010 - 70 people executed (shot, burned and mutilated) near Juárez, Nuevo León.

    August, 24th, 2010 - 72 people (mostly migrants from Central and South America) were abducted from several buses in San Fernando, Tamaulipas, and then executed after refusing to work for Los Zetas.

    April, 6th, 2011 - 193 people were abducted from several buses in San Fernando, Tamaulipas, and then executed (and burned) after refusing to work for Los Zetas. The women were raped prior to being killed. Buried across several clandestine mass graves.

    April, 2011 - 340 people were found executed and buried in several clandestine mass graves around Durango, Durango.

    June, 3rd, 2011 - 38 people were burned alive and buried in several clandestine mass graves near Piedras Negras, Coahuila.

    August, 25th 2011 - 52 people were killed when Zetas members shot up a casino and set it ablaze burning everyone inside, in Monterrey, Nuevo León.

    May 9th, 2012 - 18 people were found quartered (heads, hands and feet severed off) in Guadalajara, Jalisco

    May 13th, 2012 - 49 people were found quartered and dumped along the highway near Cadereyta-Jiménez, Nuevo León

    June 30th, 2014 - 22 civilians were executed by government troops in Tlatlaya, Michoacán

    September 26th, 2014 - 43 students were abducted from Iguala, Guerrero (Ayotizinapa Rural Teachers College) by government officials with the help of the army. They were handed over to a crime syndicate who later killed them.

    January 5th, 2015 - 16 unarmed civilians were killed by federal police outside of Apatzingán, Michoacán

    These are only some of the large scale attacks. Overall, however check out the staggering casualties numbers over the last 3 years:

    ~15,000 killed during Mexico's drug wars in 2014

    ~17,000 killed during Mexico's drug wars in 2015

    ~23,000 killed during Mexico's drug wars in 2016
    http://ktla.com/2017/05/09/23000-kil...d-after-syria/

    Note: I'm not a huge proponent of building a wall along our southern border (quite the opposite, in fact) - but I also don't trivialize the carnage that occurs mostly along the border states.
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    Just read above. Other countries had these issues and a stricter gun regulation proved to be the answer. You are trying to disprove facts.
    Mexico disarmed the civilian population in the 1970s (specifically by the Reform to Article 10 in 1971).

    The Drug Cartels came into full-fledged power in the 1970s.

    Cause & Effect.

    See my previous post as to the very serious ramifications of having made the entire nation defenseless against criminals/criminal syndicates.

    Furthermore, in the UK, Spain and France 'terrorist' perpetrators are now forgoing the use of firearms altogether ---> they've scaled up their attacks by driving their vehicles into people. In other words, EVIL is EVIL and they will cause chaos, and tragedy despite the weapon of choice, despite the LAW.
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    He was done killing by then. It was OVER. He and another guy followed the killer , but it was very much after the fact.
    Your a pretty smart guy but you have no idea what he was going to do next. He could have gone to the church down the street and done the same thing or he could have killed himself we will never know. Thanks to those who followed him

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    Mexico and other countries down there suffer from the American War-on-Drugs as good for American business and it is a huge job creator.

    90 dead in USA EVERY DAY due to Sackler family and other BigPharma pushing opioids in every way. Now Sackler intend to start pushing their opioids into other countries.

    30K+ dead every year from ODs, far exceeds the numbers the drug cartels kill in USA, but Repug govt does NOTHING about the opioid crisis, prefers lucrative incarceration to addiction treatment, and Sessions has announced to ramp up the drug war, esp on marijuana.

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    Your a pretty smart guy but you have no idea what he was going to do next. He could have gone to the church down the street and done the same thing or he could have killed himself we will never know. Thanks to those who followed him
    It wasn’t a random event, nor just any church. He went there hunting his wife’s family. He wouldn’t have found them at another church.

    DPS is also now saying that he shot himself, so, what exactly are you thanking those two guys who followed him for? Shooting and missing? Getting on the news?

    The reality is that once The shooting starts, it’s already too late. These asshole are also gearing up in tac gear, so even if you hit them, it doesn’t do more tha a punch in the same area. Kind of makes the “good guy with a gun” moot.

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    I think the citizen actually did shoot him initially, but if this is your main takeaway from this incident you're misguided.

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    A guy on cnn just had a slip of the tongue and called papadapolous popovich. Lol

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    From what I gather this guy may have had a dishonorable discharge. This should have prevented him from purchasing a firearm. If it was not a dishonorable discharge, then his conviction for domestic violence should have stopped the purchase of a firearm. I think the question is how this guy slipped through the cracks of current gun legislation. Perhaps enforcement of current laws and not new laws is necessary. IMO the place that sold the man the weapon(s?) used should pay for everything as well as take responsibility for their lackluster attention to detail.

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