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    I remember in the 80s when I was in the UK, the POLICE didn't even carry guns...in London no less. Thats a society.

    And the 2nd amendment was made to protect against government, not crazy citizens so using the 2nd as an argument is wrong. People want EVERYBODY to carry a gun to protect against one crazy lunatic instead of taking guns away from one lunatic.

    Here's another story, I know a guy who is into carrying a gun, hes also a stoner. He went to the movies with his gun and near the end of the movie cops went up to him and he didn't know why, dumbasses gun fell out the back of his pants between cushions into floor and he didn't even know it. People behind him turned him in. Its not just about good and bad but also stupid.

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    Speaking of Stupid this could have possibly all been avoided had the Air Force not ed it up. The dude beats his wife and and cracks the skull of a child and what does the Air Force do they let him off with a Bad Conduct instead of a Dishonorable Discharge.
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    Why, so he doesn't get a gun? Sounds complicated for the Air Force who've got other matters to think about.

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    "the 2nd amendment was made to protect against government"

    goddamn, you're ING stupid



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    He was done killing by then. It was OVER. He and another guy followed the killer , but it was very much after the fact.
    Gun ban wouldn’t have mattered. That guy was a dishonorable discharge and it was already illegal for him to have a gun. That shooting is a prime example that gun laws don’t matter. If you ban guns the only people who will abide by those laws are law abiding citizens, meanwhile the criminals and murderers will remain armed.

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    "the 2nd amendment was made to protect against government"

    goddamn, you're ING stupid


    That’s actually true

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    Speaking of Stupid this could have possibly all been avoided had the Air Force not ed it up. The dude beats his wife and and cracks the skull of a child and what does the Air Force do they let him off with a Bad Conduct instead of a Dishonorable Discharge.
    I thought he was

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    Gun ban wouldn’t have mattered. That guy was a dishonorable discharge and it was already illegal for him to have a gun. That shooting is a prime example that gun laws don’t matter. If you ban guns the only people who will abide by those laws are law abiding citizens, meanwhile the criminals and murderers will remain armed.
    Not a dishonorable discharge. Not illegal for him to have or buy guns.

    EDIT: Ah, you saw it.

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    That’s actually true
    And if there is ever a time we need to protect ourselves against a tyrannical government, it's right this minute with that crook in charge in DC.

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    Ok, it appears he was an illegal gun owner (due to his domestic violence convictions), and he slipped through the cracks because of a some sort of data entry error:

    https://twitter.com/NPR/status/92765...-hot-mic-31%2F

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    Your comment makes no sense despite the trite, misplaced need for wanting to mock Trump with some 'witty burn' loosely related to this tragedy. SMDH.

    It wantonly ignores the very evil deeds carried out by the cartels/mercenaries/rogue cops/rogue military down in Mexico. Here are just a few examples of those malevolent atrocities committed during the last 7 years (notoriously during the "Fast and Furious" period):

    June, 2010 - Over 55 people executed (shot) in Taxco, Guerrero.

    June 25th, 2010 - 70 people executed (shot, burned and mutilated) near Juárez, Nuevo León.

    August, 24th, 2010 - 72 people (mostly migrants from Central and South America) were abducted from several buses in San Fernando, Tamaulipas, and then executed after refusing to work for Los Zetas.

    April, 6th, 2011 - 193 people were abducted from several buses in San Fernando, Tamaulipas, and then executed (and burned) after refusing to work for Los Zetas. The women were raped prior to being killed. Buried across several clandestine mass graves.

    April, 2011 - 340 people were found executed and buried in several clandestine mass graves around Durango, Durango.

    June, 3rd, 2011 - 38 people were burned alive and buried in several clandestine mass graves near Piedras Negras, Coahuila.

    August, 25th 2011 - 52 people were killed when Zetas members shot up a casino and set it ablaze burning everyone inside, in Monterrey, Nuevo León.

    May 9th, 2012 - 18 people were found quartered (heads, hands and feet severed off) in Guadalajara, Jalisco

    May 13th, 2012 - 49 people were found quartered and dumped along the highway near Cadereyta-Jiménez, Nuevo León

    June 30th, 2014 - 22 civilians were executed by government troops in Tlatlaya, Michoacán

    September 26th, 2014 - 43 students were abducted from Iguala, Guerrero (Ayotizinapa Rural Teachers College) by government officials with the help of the army. They were handed over to a crime syndicate who later killed them.

    January 5th, 2015 - 16 unarmed civilians were killed by federal police outside of Apatzingán, Michoacán

    These are only some of the large scale attacks. Overall, however check out the staggering casualties numbers over the last 3 years:

    ~15,000 killed during Mexico's drug wars in 2014

    ~17,000 killed during Mexico's drug wars in 2015

    ~23,000 killed during Mexico's drug wars in 2016
    http://ktla.com/2017/05/09/23000-kil...d-after-syria/

    Note: I'm not a huge proponent of building a wall along our southern border (quite the opposite, in fact) - but I also don't trivialize the carnage that occurs mostly along the border states.


    lol including deaths in drug wars

    If we include deaths of drug wars in the US we can reach millions . Wake me up when 60+ are killed in a concert in mejico


    I stand by my statement. Build that damn wall and keep mexico safe

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    "the 2nd amendment was made to protect against government"

    goddamn, you're ING stupid


    “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of people to keep and bear arms should not be infringed.”

    Its about freedom not crime....ASSHOLE!! Also...your Mother!!

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    Banning guns isn't going to solve anything.

    There's just been a disgusting trend of messed up people who, following in the footsteps of all those cowards before them, have all the more the courage to be cowards & to showcase their cowardice to the nation. In the interest of fame, or whatever it is they're seeking. Ban guns? You'll just see that cowardice manifest in other ways. We've already seen it: cars plowing into crowds, home-made bombs.

    So it always comes back to: how do we as a society--communities, families, etc.-- prevent these sorts of people from becoming what they are. Because we'll keep churning out people like this & witness their cowardice the longer we avoid that discussion & deflect the blame on guns.

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    Gun ban wouldn’t have mattered. That guy was a dishonorable discharge and it was already illegal for him to have a gun. That shooting is a prime example that gun laws don’t matter. If you ban guns the only people who will abide by those laws are law abiding citizens, meanwhile the criminals and murderers will remain armed.
    So what! Let them be armed. People who have illegal guns are usually gangsters who just shoot themselves. Columbine, The Pittsburgh movie theatre shooting, SANDY ING HOOK, the shooting of Gabby Gifford and on and on....legal firearms.

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    “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of people to keep and bear arms should not be infringed.”

    Its about freedom not crime....ASSHOLE!! Also...your Mother!!
    The right to bear arms applies to state militias only because the Feds didn't want, couldn't afford a standing national army.

    Try some real history instead of BigGun propaganda and lies, sucker.
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    lol including deaths in drug wars

    If we include deaths of drug wars in the US we can reach millions . Wake me up when 60+ are killed in a concert in mejico


    I stand by my statement. Build that damn wall and keep mexico safe

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    The right to bear arms applies to militias only because the Feds didn't want, couldn't afford a standing army.

    Try some real history instead of BigGun propaganda and lies, sucker.
    Huh????? You haven't proven your point in the least. It applies to militias period. It applies the "security of a free state". Without the, as you said, Feds unable to afford an army there wouldn't BE a 2nd amendment, so I go back to my original point

    Also has anybody read lately about the Sandy hook shooter? Thats one sick using his 2nd amendment rights.

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    Gun ban wouldn’t have mattered. That guy was a dishonorable discharge and it was already illegal for him to have a gun. That shooting is a prime example that gun laws don’t matter. If you ban guns the only people who will abide by those laws are law abiding citizens, meanwhile the criminals and murderers will remain armed.
    Umm not in this case

    Had guns been banned this guy woukd not have been aboe to buy them as he did.

    This case would have definitely not happened had guns been banned

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    Guns will never be banned. Get use to it

    This debate only serves to divide us on yet another line.

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    Guns will never be banned. Get use to it

    This debate only serves to divide us on yet another line.
    Agree guns would never be banned in US save a major state of emergency

    Doesnt mean gun control talk needs to be given up

    For example those assault weapons should not be sold to any ing dumbass that shows the cash

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    lol including deaths in drug wars

    If we include deaths of drug wars in the US we can reach millions . Wake me up when 60+ are killed in a concert in mejico


    I stand by my statement. Build that damn wall and keep mexico safe
    Ignorance is what your statement was built on. When government officials (Federal Police, Army, etc...) kill civilians (in mass fashion, no less) that is inherently the opposite of "safe".

    Seriously bro. You trivialized a humanitarian crisis all for the sake a making a pitiful zinger - congratulations on your callousness.

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    Ignorance is what your statement was built on. When government officials (Federal Police, Army, etc...) kill civilians (in mass fashion, no less) that is inherently the opposite of "safe".

    Seriously bro. You trivialized a humanitarian crisis all for the sake a making a pitiful zinger - congratulations on your callousness.
    And federal and police dont kill people here in the Us??

    Lmao

    The gang killings, plus police killings plus ODs make millions of deaths a year here in the US

    Anyway this thread is about mass kilkings by civilians armed with assault weapons. Make your own thread about drug war

    Build dat wall Donald

    Keep mexico safe

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    Guys, it's time to ban haters. Lets act before it's too late.

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    And federal and police dont kill people here in the Us??

    Lmao

    The gang killings, plus police killings plus ODs make millions of deaths a year here in the US

    Anyway this thread is about mass kilkings by civilians armed with assault weapons. Make your own thread about drug war

    Build dat wall Donald

    Keep mexico safe
    More ignorance... and obstinate insolence to boot.

    Again, what about the mass shooting of people doesn't qualify as being a mass shooting event? The concept doesn't change just because it's down in Mexico. Get out of here with your modifiers. The folks on the buses in San Fernando were in no way tied to the "drug war" they were simply murdered because they REFUSED to be a part of it - over 300 people passing through that town were abducted, pillaged, burned, raped, mutilated, maimed, tortured and finally executed. I know the survivor of one such "round up" - he wasn't a member of any cartel, and was sucked into the drug violence. It's a very real problem with no signs of slowing down. Money from the cartels is corrupting many government officials and the people don't know who can be trusted any longer. Your comment is ignorant and devoid of context. Did you literally try to compare the brutal execution of people to self-inflicted over-doses?

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    And federal and police dont kill people here in the Us??

    Lmao

    The gang killings, plus police killings plus ODs make millions of deaths a year here in the US

    Anyway this thread is about mass kilkings by civilians armed with assault weapons. Make your own thread about drug war

    Build dat wall Donald

    Keep mexico safe
    Are you really this innumerate?

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