Shooting at TX church outside SA; 27 dead

[Phenomanul]

Tobacco and alcohol profits kill 100Ks PER YEAR, EVERY YEAR, just in USA, and not a peep from You People.

Then add in another 100K dead per year in USA from AVOIDABLE medical errors.

Smoking tobacco or consuming alcohol are personal self-inflicted choices. Unless you want a return to the prohibition days? Yeah, that didn't work out too good.

[Pavlov]

On July 14th, 2016, Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel drove a truck into crowds of people celebrating Bastille Day in Nice, France, killing 86 people and injuring 458 others.

On March 22nd, 2017, 52-year-old Briton Khalid Masood, drove a car into pedestrians on the pavement along the south side of Westminster Bridge in London, UK, killing 4 people and injuring 46 others. After the car was crashed into the perimeter fence of the Palace grounds, Masood abandoned it and ran into New Palace Yard where he fatally stabbed an unarmed police officer.

On August 17th 2017, 22-year-old Younes Abouyaaqoub drove a van into pedestrians on La Rambla in Barcelona, Spain, killing 13 people and injuring at least 458 others. Nine hours after the Barcelona attack, five men drove another vehicle into pedestrians in nearby Cambrils, killing one woman and injuring six others.

On October 31, 2017, Sayfullo Saipov drove a rented pickup truck into cyclists and runners for about 1 mile (1.6 km) of the Hudson River Park's bike path alongside West Street from Houston Street south to Chambers Street in Lower Manhattan, New York City. The vehicle-ramming attack killed 8 people and injured 11 others.

All of those were mass murder events, where the weapon of choice was a vehicle. NEXT thing you know liberal nuts will be calling for a ban on vehicles.

EVIL IDEOLOGIES are the source of these acts of violence - not guns.

On the night of October 1, 2017, a truckman opened fire on a crowd of concertgoers at the Route 91 Harvest music festival on the Las Vegas Strip in Nevada, leaving 58 people dead and 546 injured. Between 10:05 and 10:15 p.m. PDT, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock of Mesquite, Nevada, fired hundreds of trucks from his suite on the 32nd floor of the nearby Mandalay Bay hotel. About an hour after Paddock fired his last truck into the crowd, he was found dead in his room from a self-inflicted truck wound. His motive is unknown.

[skulls138]

On July 14th, 2016, Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel drove a truck into crowds of people celebrating Bastille Day in Nice, France, killing 86 people and injuring 458 others.

On March 22nd, 2017, 52-year-old Briton Khalid Masood, drove a car into pedestrians on the pavement along the south side of Westminster Bridge in London, UK, killing 4 people and injuring 46 others. After the car was crashed into the perimeter fence of the Palace grounds, Masood abandoned it and ran into New Palace Yard where he fatally stabbed an unarmed police officer.

On August 17th 2017, 22-year-old Younes Abouyaaqoub drove a van into pedestrians on La Rambla in Barcelona, Spain, killing 13 people and injuring at least 458 others. Nine hours after the Barcelona attack, five men drove another vehicle into pedestrians in nearby Cambrils, killing one woman and injuring six others.

On October 31, 2017, Sayfullo Saipov drove a rented pickup truck into cyclists and runners for about 1 mile (1.6 km) of the Hudson River Park's bike path alongside West Street from Houston Street south to Chambers Street in Lower Manhattan, New York City. The vehicle-ramming attack killed 8 people and injured 11 others.

All of those were mass murder events, where the weapon of choice was a vehicle. NEXT thing you know liberal nuts will be calling for a ban on vehicles.

EVIL IDEOLOGIES are the source of these acts of violence - not guns.

Hah! Cars are meant for transportation, guns are for killing, NO OTHER REASON. We must do something about car terrorism, no doubt. The reason that they do it is because it's so easy and we'd be screwing our economy big time if we banned driving. Taking guns away or at least semi automatic ones or big banana clips is very doable.....bbbbut you don't want to do it, hmmmm.

Hunting? Fine. Having a handgun for protection? Ok. I'll compromise but assault weapons are for dummies who watch too much Alex Jones. I knew a guy who was so ready for the apocalypse, that was a long time ago. He must be pretty disappointed by now.

[skulls138]

Tobacco and alcohol profits kill 100Ks PER YEAR, EVERY YEAR, just in USA, and not a peep from You People.

Then add in another 100K dead per year in USA from AVOIDABLE medical errors.

People know the dangers of tobacco. They are exercising their freedoms without infringing on the freedoms of others...whats your point?

As for avoidable medical errors, are you saying we shouldn't try to fix that problem? I mean you don't want to fix the gun problem so again what's your point?

[Phenomanul]

On the night of October 1, 2017, a truckman opened fire on a crowd of concertgoers at the Route 91 Harvest music festival on the Las Vegas Strip in Nevada, leaving 58 people dead and 546 injured. Between 10:05 and 10:15 p.m. PDT, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock of Mesquite, Nevada, fired hundreds of trucks from his suite on the 32nd floor of the nearby Mandalay Bay hotel. About an hour after Paddock fired his last truck into the crowd, he was found dead in his room from a self-inflicted truck wound. His motive is unknown.

You're missing the point. The problem is EVIL. It's a condition of the heart. 16 years ago, planes were hijacked with box-cutters (knives) and used as the tool to murder over 3,000 people.

The point was that guns are only a tool. The tool can be used for good or it can be used for evil.

Knives can be used for good or they can be used for evil.
Fire can be used for good or it can be used for evil.
Atomic power can be used for good or it can be used for evil.
TNT can be used for good or it can be used for evil.
etc.
etc..
etc...

[Pavlov]

You're missing the point. The problem is EVIL. It's a condition of the heart. 16 years ago, planes were hijacked with box-cutters (knives) and used as the tool to murder over 3,000 people.

The point was that guns are only a tool. The tool can be used for good or it can be used for evil.

Knives can be used for good or they can be used for evil.
Fire can be used for good or it can be used for evil.
Atomic power can be used for good or it can be used for evil.
TNT can be used for good or it can be used for evil.
etc.
etc..
etc...

I'd rather have someone try to shoot me with a truck from a high rise hotel tbh.

[skulls138]

I'd like some examples of good done by the legalization of semi automatic weapons. We can all give some bad.

[Phenomanul]

I'd like some examples of good done by the legalization of semi automatic weapons. We can all give some bad.

Well they've been around since the time of the American Revolution... so you do the math. Both sides of every war since has made use of them.

[Phenomanul]

I'd rather have someone try to shoot me with a truck from a high rise hotel tbh.

The Scarlet Witch pulled this stunt on Tony Stark at some airport in Germany. I seen it in a do entary.

[skulls138]

Well they've been around since the time of the American Revolution... so you do the math. Both sides of every war since has made use of them.

Legalization of them for the public, not army. Of course you want the army to have them.

[spurraider21]

I'd rather have someone try to shoot me with a truck from a high rise hotel tbh.

but that's never how a truck attack would be carried out

[Robz4000]

but that's never how a truck attack would be carried out

Idk, trucks are bad mother ers that don't afraid of anything.

[hater]

I don think you can win HALO with a truck tbqh

Assault weapons are >>>>>>> more powerful than any civilian vehicle ever made

[Pavlov]

but that's never how a truck attack would be carried out

Exactly.

[spurraider21]

Exactly.

I don't get your analogy then. You are implying that if paddock wanted to use a truck instead of rifles that he would have tried to execute it exactly the same way. It's ridiculous

I could just as easily say "I'd prefer a terrorist try to run me over with a gun than a truck." It's nonsensical

[Pavlov]

I don't get your analogy then. You are implying that if paddock wanted to use a truck instead of rifles that he would have tried to execute it exactly the same way. It's ridiculous

I could just as easily say "I'd prefer a terrorist try to run me over with a gun than a truck. It's nonsensical

It's supposed to be nonsensical. Who would attack anyone from a high rise with a truck?

[spurraider21]

It's supposed to be nonsensical. Who would attack anyone from a high rise with a truck?

You're the only one here who has implied somebody would.

[bic50]

Exactly.

Truck attacks can do a lot of damage. I believe one attack in France killed 80+ people with a truck and injured a bunch more. That's more killed then the vegas shooting.

[Pavlov]

You're the only one here who has implied somebody would.

Nope. It's a rhetorical question.

[Pavlov]

Truck attacks can do a lot of damage. I believe one attack in France killed 80+ people with a truck and injured a bunch more. That's more killed then the vegas shooting.

Yes.

I am against any modification meant to indiscriminately drive trucks into crowds of people.

[SnakeBoy]

I don't get your analogy then. You are implying that if paddock wanted to use a truck instead of rifles that he would have tried to execute it exactly the same way. It's ridiculous

I could just as easily say "I'd prefer a terrorist try to run me over with a gun than a truck." It's nonsensical

Not really my schtick but what the ...


Bend Over, I''ll run you over with a gun

[spurraider21]

Nope. It's a rhetorical question.

So explain the point you're trying to make.

[Pavlov]

So explain the point you're trying to make.

I just did.

[spurraider21]

I just did.

No, you really didn't. The point others have made is that mass murders can be committed with weapons other than guns. Your response is that paddock can't throw a truck out of a hotel window. If that's the point you're making, then you're just stupid.

[Pavlov]

No, you really didn't. The point others have made is that mass murders can be committed with weapons other than guns. Your response is that paddock can't throw a truck out of a hotel window. If that's the point you're making, then you're just stupid.

Try harder. Let me know if you don't get it.

Yes.

I am against any modification meant to indiscriminately drive trucks into crowds of people.