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    I think 50 Mills will start to ease TP back into the Rotation and possibly keep starting if his upwards trend from the last few games with the other Starters goes on.

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    Kobe's levels of turning the ball over are 3.0 per 36 for his career. Murray's at 3.2 per 36 this season, after 4.2 last season. Moreover, Kobe's TOV% for his career is 11.6, while Murray's is 20.9. Clearly Murray needs to get much better to reach Kobe's levels.
    Much better? 3.2 to 3.0? Lol... I guess u win that one bro... Smh

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    Much better? 3.2 to 3.0? Lol... I guess u win that one bro... Smh
    Ok better.

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    Fake news... Basketball reference has Dejounte's at 4.4, and Kobe's worst season at 9...so you're wrong... But whatever

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    Fake news... Basketball reference has Dejounte's at 4.4, and Kobe's worst season at 9...so you're wrong... But whatever
    What's this? Per 100 possessions or TOV% or per 36? Either way not sure what's wrong.

    Edit: Are you comparing to Kobe's 6 game season?
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    Thats per 100 posessions...so youre wrong

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    And yea...murray played pretty much the same amount if games too

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    Duncan 2k5 is crushing on murray big time. Coming across as thirsty as John Goodman after he just ran the boston marathon.

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    And yea...murray played pretty much the same amount if games too
    You can't be serious with this retort...

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    You can't be serious with this retort...
    I am... If he is criticizing me for mentioning a 6 game season for Kobe, why can't I criticize for the Murray hate just several games into the season too?

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    I am... If he is criticizing me for mentioning a 6 game season for Kobe, why can't I criticize for the Murray hate just several games into the season too?
    Because we already know that six-game sample doesn't represent Kobe's career. So far, this sample is all we have of Murray. You might as well have purposefully looked for a bad six-game stretch from Kobe to make your argument.

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    If we can't use a small sample size from kobe, we can't use this sample size for DM.

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    If we can't use a small sample size from kobe, we can't use this sample size for DM.
    You can't use an artificially small sample size for Kobe because we KNOW it's wrong. I don't believe Murray's sample is too small, but even if it were, it's not the same as Kobe's because there isn't any statistical reason to believe the numbers are wrong yet.

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    You can't use an artificially small sample size for Kobe because we KNOW it's wrong. I don't believe Murray's sample is too small, but even if it were, it's not the same as Kobe's because there isn't any statistical reason to believe the numbers are wrong yet.
    What's the difference? The season just started... Murray played a similar amount of games to Kobe... So if you can't judge Kobe on a six game sample, you can't judge Murray on a six game sample... And FYI... Kobe has ALWAYS turned the all over at a high rate

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    What's the difference? The season just started... Murray played a similar amount of games to Kobe... So if you can't judge Kobe on a six game sample, you can't judge Murray on a six game sample... And FYI... Kobe has ALWAYS turned the all over at a high rate
    This is not hard.

    You can't judge Kobe by that six-game sample, because he had a much large sample to show that stretch was not informative. Murray's season is a) large enough of a sample and b) the only sample we have to work with.

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    Duncan 2k5 is crushing on murray big time. Coming across as thirsty as John Goodman after he just ran the boston marathon.
    Its sa girls alt

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    I actually liked what Murray did during minutes that counted. The Spurs switched readily, and he didn't look overwhelmed against Johnson, who's a legit SF. I think he's shaky at best on O right now. But his flashes on D remain intriguing.

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    I actually liked what Murray did during minutes that counted. The Spurs switched readily, and he didn't look overwhelmed against Johnson, who's a legit SF. I think he's shaky at best on O right now. But his flashes on D remain intriguing.
    Hes a ty passer

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    I think Murray is getting the right amount of minutes right now to progress him in his second season. I expect him to continue to improve and maybe next year or the year after eventually take a big step forward. He needs to put on some weight over the next few years.

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    6 pts (6-8 from the line), 6 rbds, 3 assts, 1 stl, + 13 on 19 minutes.

    I liked that stint where he kept forcing Beverly to foul him.

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    The kid did good tonight does he need to get better yes will he get better YES.

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    Since coming off the bench he's been solid. He's a work in progress but he will get better.

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    Grades

    Gasol A - he was hitting threes and rebounding
    LMA A+ - he was a beast hitting shots taking advantage of shorter players guarding him and fighting for rebounds
    Rudy A - he was doing everything steal of a pickup
    Green A- my Lionel Richie finally showing up

    Mills B- - played with confidence hit the threes and set up his team mates
    Manu B - what can u say he is Manu

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    Forbes - Very confident hitting threes not so good taking it to the rim
    Murray - Good game played defense and rebounded the ball and also didn’t back down

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    6 pts (6-8 from the line), 6 rbds, 3 assts, 1 stl, + 13 on 19 minutes.

    I liked that stint where he kept forcing Beverly to foul him.
    Missed the game... Elaborate on that stint

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    Gasol A - he was hitting threes and rebounding
    LMA A+ - he was a beast hitting shots taking advantage of shorter players guarding him and fighting for rebounds
    Rudy A - he was doing everything steal of a pickup
    Green A- my Lionel Richie finally showing up

    Mills B- - played with confidence hit the threes and set up his team mates
    Manu B - what can u say he is Manu

    Special mention:
    Forbes - Very confident hitting threes not so good taking it to the rim
    Murray - Good game played defense and rebounded the ball and also didn’t back down
    Thank you!

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