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    So many tears in this thread


    But they dont have kawhi as #1

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    and doesn't ice know that ST has sole proprietorship on dissing spurs players?

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    I was on the same flight with Ice a few years ago (he was sitting a couple of rows ahead of me) and he spent the whole time talking with people on the plane. It was cool, Ice was so down to earth and everyone around him was just eating up the chance to talk Spurs with a legend like him.
    That's awesome. I wanted to go to his legends Bball camp for old guys like me a few years back but never could work it out.

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    He was being paid to be there, so technically not totally free autographs. The event was for USAA employees and their families. I’m sure he’d love to have charged extra though. Maybe he was just having a bad day.
    Some players are total assholes. One player totally ignored me when I asked him for an autograph, and I was the only one around. I was a really young kid, and I knew that was a ed up thing to do.

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    Back in 1974 I delivered his newspaper. Both Ice and Rich Jones were on my route. Ice was the best tipper on my route, but Jones would hire me to cut his grass and wash his car. Jerry Grote (former New York Mets catcher) was also on my route. I cut his grass too, until I accidently cut down some monkey grass his wife had planted and I was outa there. I got meet a bunch of ABA players and most of the Spurs back then.

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    Well, Bowen said last week like Draymond is the best defender in the league over Kawhi.



    Kawhi never got love from former Spurs players not named DRob and Tim.

    And Bruce is just mad he's not considered the best perimeter defender in SA anymore.
    Bruce was a vastly overrated defender...I'd be elite on defense too if I had prime Mourning or Duncan cleaning up all my mistakes
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    Also, people get their panties too much in a bunch when a former Spur is not a complete homer to the Spurs players.
    Could be.

    My father was a Spurs fan, his fav was DRob so since I was a kid I heard "Once a Spur Always a Spur"... I learned to support and wish the best to former Spurs players.

    I guess the "Spurs culture" and "Spurs Family" make fans to see all our players like brothers in arms, members of a perennial brotherhood, like they will support each other in the same way as we, the fans support them.

    A week ago Pau said "if you have a player like Kobe MJ Durant or Kawhi Leonard should win the game..." We already know that Kobe doesn't belong on this list but Pau truly believes it because he's loyal to his former teammate.

    That's why Horry's/SJax/Ice/Bruce comments hurt most Spurs fans.

    But it seems too naive on our part to think they're a perfect fraternity.


    I enjoy watching LeBron play as well, and a lot of other non-Spurs.
    Me, too. He's still the best player in the league.
    But also, Lebron left Cleveland to win a ring in Miami, then came back to give Cavs a le. I can appreciate that. KD has a whole different story...The tampering, the multiple fake accounts, etc- that make me.."Mmm"

    I guess that's why fans react about Ice picking him, people don't love KD that much in last seasons, but he's one of the best pure scorers, choosing him is just a matter of taste.

    But Bruce is a little butthurt I think about Kawhi getting B2B DPOY trophies when he deserved it pretty much from '03-'07.
    I wouldn't say "pretty much" since Kawhi put historic numbers on the defensive end in 2015, he was way more versatile defender, as much dominant as Bruce without the need to become dirty.

    While Bruce was amazing, we shouldn't forget that he could have won a DPOY if the league wouldn't have seen him as a specialist in doing what Zaza did to Kawhi.

    There is a reason why we had a Bowen's rule before and Zaza's now.

    But the media voting an asshole like Dray as DPOY on these days, validate any Bruce's candidacy in the past.
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    Theres always gonna be stories of famous people being jerks. Just like normal people are jerks sometimes.

    Ice would frequent a restaurant I worked at and he was always friendly and super chill

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    But the media voting an asshole like Dray as DPOY on these days, validate any Bruce's candidacy in the past.
    Definitely.

    I'd say Bruce didn't get enough credit for his contributions, though. The "dirty" reputation was earned...somewhat, and I'm sure that overshadowed his greatness, but Draymond is much dirtier, and for some reason he's held up as something great by the media most of the time.

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    Definitely.

    I'd say Bruce didn't get enough credit for his contributions, though. The "dirty" reputation was earned...somewhat, and I'm sure that overshadowed his greatness, but Draymond is much dirtier, and for some reason he's held up as something great by the media most of the time.
    Bruce was a GREAT defender for us. Dirty? You bet, but he was our dirty.

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    A week ago Pau said "if you have a player like Kobe MJ Durant or Kawhi Leonard should win the game..." We already know that Kobe doesn't belong on this list but Pau truly believes it because he's loyal to his former teammate.
    interesting, but Kobe >>> Durant (the guy who really could not win even having a superstar on the same team)
    only series in your carrer that Durbeta did not have a superstar in his team: Grizzilies 4-1

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    Definitely.

    I'd say Bruce didn't get enough credit for his contributions, though. The "dirty" reputation was earned...somewhat, and I'm sure that overshadowed his greatness, but Draymond is much dirtier, and for some reason he's held up as something great by the media most of the time.
    I would say Draymond gets a pass from the media for being dirty because he plays on the most popular team in the league. Just look at Rodman when he played for the Spurs he was hated and despised by the media. He goes to the bulls and suddenly becomes this likable celebrity in the eyes of the media. Another example is how Artest was hated by media prior to going to the Lakers. He goes to the Lakers and they instantly give him a pass for being dirty. Media always gives passes to dirty players when they play on their favorite team.

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    I would say Draymond gets a pass from the media for being dirty because he plays on the most popular team in the league. Just look at Rodman when he played for the Spurs he was hated and despised by the media. He goes to the bulls and suddenly becomes this likable celebrity in the eyes of the media. Another example is how Artest was hated by media prior to going to the Lakers. He goes to the Lakers and they instantly give him a pass for being dirty. Media always gives passes to dirty players when they play on their favorite team.
    Now you're just making up. Rodman was never likable on the Bulls (or even portrayed as such).

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    Bruce was a GREAT defender for us. Dirty? You bet, but he was our dirty.

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    Well, Bowen said last week like Draymond is the best defender in the league over Kawhi.



    Kawhi never got love from former Spurs players not named DRob and Tim.

    And Bruce is just mad he's not considered the best perimeter defender in SA anymore.
    He also referred to Austin Rivers as "the Manu of the Clippers" when it was announced that Milos was starting instead of him. Then again, I wonder how much of the bull compliments Austin gets on our broadcasts are scripted by Doc. Ralph said last night that Austin was "responsible for the comeback against Miami" when we all watched him choke that game away at the free-throw line.

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    Had to have been, because Ice has been nothing but the nicest guy every time I have talked to him. He even shot around with me one time at Incarnate Word when I was a kid. All the Spurs players were really accessible to fans in the 80s, and even in the 90s when all that changed Ice still seemed to always have time to shoot the with fans.
    That’s awesome! I’m jealous! It be cool as to shoot around with any nba player to see what that’s like up close

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    Well, Bowen said last week like Draymond is the best defender in the league over Kawhi.



    Kawhi never got love from former Spurs players not named DRob and Tim.

    And Bruce is just mad he's not considered the best perimeter defender in SA anymore.
    He's easily 3rd now with Kawhi and Green tbh.

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    That’s awesome! I’m jealous! It be cool as to shoot around with any nba player to see what that’s like up close
    The league was so different in the 1980s. On game days my dad and I would go straight to Hemisfair Arena after I got out of school and we'd just shoot the with the players while they were out shooting around three to four hours before the game. We'd get there so early there wouldn't even be anyone checking tickets. Most players were pretty chill. I remember Mark Olberding was telling my dad how much he missed all the good Mexican pussy in San Antonio after getting traded. His teammate said hey come man, there's a kid here, to which Olberding looked right at me and said it's ok, he likes Mexican pussy too.

    I remember bringing the players cakes into the locker room on their birthdays. One time my dad called the locker room at half time of a road game and got through to head coach Bob Weiss and told him about some opening in the other team's defense or something. I can't imagine how pissed Weiss must have been to have some fan trying to tell him how to coach at half time.
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    You might want to look at Gervin's career FG%. He barely attempted the 3, wasn't a post-up and still averaged 25 per.
    Wtf does fg % have to do w fga?

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    The league was so different in the 1980s. On game days my dad and I would go straight to Hemisfair Arena after I got out of school and we'd just shoot the with the players while they were out shooting around three to four hours before the game. We'd get there so early there wouldn't even be anyone checking tickets. Most players were pretty chill. I remember Mark Olberding was telling my dad how much he missed all the good Mexican pussy in San Antonio after getting traded. His teammate said hey come man, there's a kid here, to which Olberding looked right at me and said it's ok, he likes Mexican pussy too.

    I remember bringing the players cakes into the locker room on their birthdays. One time my dad called the locker room at half time of a road game and got through to head coach Bob Weiss and told him about some opening in the other team's defense or something. I can't imagine how pissed Weiss must have been to have some fan trying to tell him how to coach at half time.
    That's too funny. I could only imagine Pop's reaction if fans today could call him up during halftime.

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    The league was so different in the 1980s. On game days my dad and I would go straight to Hemisfair Arena after I got out of school and we'd just shoot the with the players while they were out shooting around three to four hours before the game. We'd get there so early there wouldn't even be anyone checking tickets. Most players were pretty chill. I remember Mark Olberding was telling my dad how much he missed all the good Mexican pussy in San Antonio after getting traded. His teammate said hey come man, there's a kid here, to which Olberding looked right at me and said it's ok, he likes Mexican pussy too.

    I remember bringing the players cakes into the locker room on their birthdays. One time my dad called the locker room at half time of a road game and got through to head coach Bob Weiss and told him about some opening in the other team's defense or something. I can't imagine how pissed Weiss must have been to have some fan trying to tell him how to coach at half time.
    that’s amazing! What was Artie Gilmore and Johnny Moore like? They were two of my favorites from that era. I would ask about Alvin Robertson but he didn’t seem to great from a distance. You must’ve seen James Silas, John Paxson, and Vernon Maxwell too. Those were some colorful teams!

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    Wtf does fg % have to do w fga?
    If you shoot at a high-percentage, I wouldn't classify as chucker.

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    that’s amazing! What was Artie Gilmore and Johnny Moore like? They were two of my favorites from that era. I would ask about Alvin Robertson but he didn’t seem to great from a distance. You must’ve seen James Silas, John Paxson, and Vernon Maxwell too. Those were some colorful teams!
    Artis was probably the nicest guy on the team. He was a of a volleyball player at the Bums' picnics. Silas was before my time and Maxwell after. Thank god on the latter, because Maxwell was supposed to be a huge bag. I remember an SI article about him where his kid would brag so much about Vernon Maxwell being his dad so he finally agreed to take him out one day and spend some time with him and the kid was so excited. All Maxwell did was take him for a paternity test and drop him back home. Alvin was always a nice guy to me so I was shocked to find all the bad things happening in his personal life. Everyone was so pissed when he got traded. It seems like I remember him having just opened a club a few months before being traded. But TC was a great guy and obviously in hindsight that was a huge trade for improving the team's culture. Things changed a lot in the 1990s and all the access fans had to the team was severely limited. But it should have been, that's when the NBA really started becoming big and the Spurs were trying to win a le.

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    Gervin in went through a bad patch around that time. He was a coke addict, which is why the only NBA team he played with traded him, and he was kind of adrift. He wasn’t in the organizations good graces. I think the Spurs eventually reached out to him, and gave him that VP community relations job.

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    Definitely.

    I'd say Bruce didn't get enough credit for his contributions, though. The "dirty" reputation was earned...somewhat, and I'm sure that overshadowed his greatness, but Draymond is much dirtier, and for some reason he's held up as something great by the media most of the time.
    Agreed. Also, Daslicer is right. The only reason is the hype of his team.

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