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    Statute of limitations is long over. No trial will be forthcoming.
    I'm not concerned with the statute of limitation. If any of the criminal acts of when he's been accused are proven out, I'm with everyone else calling for his withdrawal or expulsion, if elected.

    Multiple Republicans, after having reviewed the statements have said they find them credible.
    And, multiple Republicans have not jumped on McConnell's bandwagon. You just can't trust the motives of politicians.

    This is the first national office that this guy has run for, not really surprising that the rest of the country isn't going to look the other way about what a bag his is, even if the moronic Republicans in Alabama are willing to do so, because he has the magic "R" behind his name.
    His other controversies were national, as well.

    Looks increasingly like many of them aren't going to let that happen. Good on them, but a majority of the Republican electorate in that state are still going to vote for him. what an indictment of the Republican party.
    You know, if Roy Moore's downfall results in a similar accounting of all the s bags in Congress, it's an acceptable loss. Even if he's innocent.

    But, this had better result in a house-cleaning because, the level of offense just isn't proportional to that afforded the acts of others that are apparently in the Good Ol' Boys Club of Washington.

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    I'm not concerned with the statute of limitation. If any of the criminal acts of when he's been accused are proven out, I'm with everyone else calling for his withdrawal or expulsion, if elected.


    And, multiple Republicans have not jumped on McConnell's bandwagon. You just can't trust the motives of politicians.


    His other controversies were national, as well.


    You know, if Roy Moore's downfall results in a similar accounting of all the s bags in Congress, it's an acceptable loss. Even if he's innocent.

    But, this had better result in a house-cleaning because, the level of offense just isn't proportional to that afforded the acts of others that are apparently in the Good Ol' Boys Club of Washington.
    Sexual assault just doesn't matter to you at all.

    Unless you think a Democrat did it.

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    "if it's not criminal, its ok"
    That's generally true.

    Again, if we're talking about a 32 year-old dating a 17 or 18 year old; if everyone is consenting, I don't see the issue. Maybe I'm not as up on the accusations as you.

    "a judge ignoring the supreme court is OK"

    These are not the statement of someone with a deep sense of ethics. I would be embarrassed if my kids uttered those words.
    Meh, it's all about context.

    Federal judges and Circuit courts defy the Supremes all the time.

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    That's generally true.

    Again, if we're talking about a 32 year-old dating a 17 or 18 year old; if everyone is consenting, I don't see the issue. Maybe I'm not as up on the accusations as you.
    maybe.


    Meh, it's all about context.

    Federal judges and Circuit courts defy the Supremes all the time.
    all the time

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    Sexual assault just doesn't matter to you at all.
    That's a crime. I've already said if he's guilty of a crime, he should not be in the Senate.

    Unless you think a Democrat did it.
    Nope. Not my position. Although, it would be nice if the Democrats were held accountable for their behavior.

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    That's a crime. I've already said if he's guilty of a crime, he should not be in the Senate.
    Guilty by what standard?


    Nope. Not my position. Although, it would be nice if the Democrats were held accountable for their behavior.
    Which Republicans do you think are guilty of sexual assault or harassment?

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    Guilty by what standard?


    Which Republicans do you think are guilty of sexual assault or harassment?

    Why did you keep referring to victims as "lying s"?

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    Franken back then was just a comedian doing what comedians do. Kind of like what he does in the Senate now.

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    Franken back then was just a comedian doing what comedians do. Kind of like what he does in the Senate now.

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    Guilty by what standard?
    Well, more than a story would be nice.

    Which Republicans do you think are guilty of sexual assault or harassment?
    Other than Roy Moore, which others are accused?

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    Well, more than a story would be nice.
    What would work for you?


    Other than Roy Moore, which others are accused?
    I'm talking in the history of the Republican party. Have any of the "stories" ever met your burden of proof?

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    What would work for you?
    I don't know. I haven't seen anything yet and, again, I question the timing.

    I'm talking in the history of the Republican party. Have any of the "stories" ever met your burden of proof?
    Bob Packwood immediately comes to mind.

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    I don't know. I haven't seen anything yet and, again, I question the timing.
    After Weinstein, why would anyone question the timing? What motive do you think the lying s would have to lie?


    Bob Packwood immediately comes to mind.
    You believe his accusers in that case?

    Why?

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    After Weinstein, why would anyone question the timing? What motive do you think the lying s would have to lie?
    Money works with a lot of people. Extortion is an option.

    You believe his accusers in that case?
    As I recall, yes.

    I don't recall.

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    Money works with a lot of people. Extortion is an option.
    An option for whom?

    Walk me through your extortion option -- how is any of this possibly extortion?


    As I recall, yes.


    I don't recall.
    Jesus, you're not running for the Senate.

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    Although, it would be nice if the Democrats were held accountable for their behavior.
    Tim Mahoney (D)
    John Edwards (D)
    Eric Massa (D)
    Anthony Weiner (D)
    David Wu (D)
    Al Franken (D)

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    See it would be bipartisan if you included Trump in there

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    Lol if trump is in that picture you cry 'prove it'

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    Lol if trump is in that picture you cry 'prove it'
    There are no accusations against Trump at all. Yoni said so.

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    Al Franken is rightfully being hammered by both sides now, and there don't appear to be any left-wing Breitbarts to stir up doubt among the LCD party cheerleaders.

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    White Evangelicals Have Warmed To Politicians Who Commit 'Immoral' Acts
    That's what a new PRRI/Brookings poll says. In 2011, 30 percent of white evangelicals said that "an elected official who commits an immoral act in their personal life can still behave ethically and fulfill their duties in their public and professional life." Now, 72 percent say so — a far bigger swing than other religious groups the poll studied.
    https://www.npr.org/2016/10/23/49889...t-immoral-acts

    The magic "R" makes everything ok. Sexual assault, lying, stealing, nepotism, political witch hunts, rank incompetence, infidelity is all ok, as long as they have the magic "R".

    If Obama had appointed an in-law with no science degree to a scientific post within the government, is there any doubt this would have rocketed up to the top of Fox "news" priority of Things to be Outraged About?

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    An option for whom?

    Walk me through your extortion option -- how is any of this possibly extortion?
    Very slowly...for Pavlov.

    Person wants a person to accuse another person of some indiscretion.

    Person finds something embarrassing or legally compromising about a person.

    Person threatens to reveal embarrassing or illegal activity unless person does what they want.

    Slow enough for you?

    Jesus, you're not running for the Senate.
    You're right but, I don't remember that much about the Packwood case.

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