Dang Al Franken is a gropy creeper too

[Pavlov]

Very slowly...for Pavlov.

Person wants a person to accuse another person of some indiscretion.

Person finds something embarrassing or legally compromising about a person.

Person threatens to reveal embarrassing or illegal activity unless person does what they want.

Slow enough for you?

Yeah, but here's what actually happened. Very slowly...for you.

Multiple persons revealed embarrassing or illegal activity.

End of story.

Slow enough for you?

Or are you saying they can go back to just threatening to talk about the sexual assault they already talked about? Walk me through that one -- even quickly if you like.

[Yonivore]

See it would be bipartisan if you included Trump in there

Well, there are similar pictures of Weiner showing his weiner and Joe groping children. Granted Bill Clinton was pretty slick about not being caught in compromising images but, his name does appear on the flight logs of the Lolita Express a few times.

Are there similar images of Trump?

By the way, I'm no Trump fan; he's a bombastic, arrogant, blow hard but, that he has the Left and establishment Republicans so apoplectic is a bonus.

[Yonivore]

Yeah, but here's what actually happened. Very slowly...for you.

Multiple persons revealed embarrassing or illegal activity.

End of story.

Slow enough for you?

Serious question; when is the last time you sought the expulsion or withdrawal of a politician on simple allegations?

Or are you saying they can go back to just threatening to talk about the sexual assault they already talked about? Walk me through that one -- even quickly if you like.

With whom did they previously talk about the sexual assaults? Not the media because, I'm sure we would have heard about it long before now.

[Pavlov]

Serious question; when is the last time you sought the expulsion or withdrawal of a politician on simple allegations?

Yeah, you're going to have to be more specific about "simple allegations." I have the impression you are pretty ignorant about the Moore allegations.

With whom did they previously talk about the sexual assaults? Not the media because, I'm sure we would have heard about it long before now.

Impression confirmed.

Are you sticking with the possible extortion theory? I really need to know how it applies here.

[Chucho]

Yeah, you're going to have to be more specific about "simple allegations." I have the impression you are pretty ignorant about the Moore allegations.

Impression confirmed.

Are you sticking with the possible extortion theory? I really need to know how it applies here.

Why were you calling the victims/accusers "lying s"?

[Quadzilla99]

[baseline bum]

Gotta love Yonviore's radical skepticism when it's a Republican being accused.

[baseline bum]

Well, there are similar pictures of Weiner showing his weiner and Joe groping children. Granted Bill Clinton was pretty slick about not being caught in compromising images but, his name does appear on the flight logs of the Lolita Express a few times.

Are there similar images of Trump?

By the way, I'm no Trump fan; he's a bombastic, arrogant, blow hard but, that he has the Left and establishment Republicans so apoplectic is a bonus.

Yet another Republican non Trump fan who semen shields for him. I forgot who said it, but he was dead on when he said Trump has 100% approval rating among spurstalk republicans while allegedly 0% of them voted for the fat piece of .

[Yonivore]

Yet another Republican non Trump fan who semen shields for him. I forgot who said it, but he was dead on when he said Trump has 100% approval rating among spurstalk republicans while allegedly 0% of them voted for the fat piece of .

Oh, I voted for him. He is infinitely better than the alternative.

[pgardn]

Gotta love Yonviore's radical skepticism when it's a Republican being accused.

Hes a Republican .
The proof is in this thread. There is no proof unless admission occurs. Moore has been pulling this crap and these girls have been talking to their families about it many years. Most of them had to be rounded up by WaPo to even get this pervert tagged. Now Republicans look at this evidence and are absolutely backing out. But BeYONdstupid has to have a trial first for any Republican.

[Yonivore]

Gotta love Yonviore's radical skepticism when it's a Republican being accused.

Again, photographic proof is hard to refute; and, in fact, I don't believe any of the Democrats refuted it.

And, by the way, I haven't demanded the expulsion of Senator Menendez; I've patiently waited for the courts to take their course. I was merely point out the charges against him are more substantially evidenced than those against Roy Moore, yet no one is demanding he step down.

[Quadzilla99]

Oh, I voted for him. He is infinitely better than the alternative.

Did you honestly not hear about the 15-20 women who accused him of sex assault after the access Hollywood tapes?

[Chucho]

I don't know how anyone can question he needs to be removed. Like beyond partisanship, just some common sense.

[Yonivore]

Did you honestly not hear about the 15-20 women who accused him of sex assault after the access Hollywood tapes?

, he's been accused of a lot of stuff. Can't keep up with it all. Why do these people only surface when there's an election?

Yeah, I heard about them and the stories came and went...without any substantiation. If he were that lecherous, you'd think there'd be video or photographic proof, such as Biden groping children, Anthony Weiner flashing his weiner, or Al Franken grabbing boobies. Just because a bunch of people say something doesn't make it true. There are more that 15-20 people who have said, since he was elected, they'd do damn near anything to get him out of office... Sorry, it didn't raise my needle.

[Mark Celibate]

Ha! B-but Republicans

[Pavlov]

, he's been accused of a lot of stuff. Can't keep up with it all. Why do these people only surface when there's an election?

Yeah, I heard about them and the stories came and went...without any substantiation. If he were that lecherous, you'd think there'd be video or photographic proof, such as Biden groping children, Anthony Weiner flashing his weiner, or Al Franken grabbing boobies. Just because a bunch of people say something doesn't make it true. There are more that 15-20 people who have said, since he was elected, they'd do damn near anything to get him out of office... Sorry, it didn't raise my needle.

So all Trump's accusers are lying s.

[Chucho]

So all Trump's accusers are lying s.

Why do you keep referring to them as "lying s"?

[rjv]

Ha! B-but Republicans

Dems are Republicans Lite.

[RandomGuy]

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Didn't deny it.

Didn't call the woman a liar.

Called for an ethics investigation of himself.

Contrast that with Moore:

Called all the women (plural) liars.

Denied everything.

Said it wasn't that bad, even *if* he had done anything, which he most definitely didn't

Said he would sue his accusers.

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[RandomGuy]

Dems are Republicans Lite.

Not quite. I am hoping the resemblence will change over the coming cycle or two, especially when it comes to sucking up to business interests.

[Yonivore]

Didn't deny it.

Didn't call the woman a liar.

Called for an ethics investigation of himself.

Contrast that with Moore:

Called all the women (plural) liars.

Denied everything.

Said it wasn't that bad, even *if* he had done anything, which he most definitely didn't

Said he would sue his accusers.

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So, of course he's resigning from the Senate, correct?

And, the contrasts you draw could be explained by the difference between guilty and innocent.

[Chucho]

Didn't deny it.

Didn't call the woman a liar.

Called for an ethics investigation of himself.

Contrast that with Moore:

Called all the women (plural) liars.

Denied everything.

Said it wasn't that bad, even *if* he had done anything, which he most definitely didn't

Said he would sue his accusers.

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Unless you're re ed, you don't go down the same route as the nearest comparison when it's obviously a storm.

Kuddos to him and I hope he does the right thing and vacates his seat, at least he won't be a complete pariah while Moore will be removed/lose the election in a complete and utter embarrassment. Good riddance to both.

[RandomGuy]

Prove to me Franken forced himself on his accuser. Prove to me that wasn't just a funny photo she agreed to at the time.

She was obviously asleep. Not sure she would have agreed. Doesn't look like he was actally touching her tho', but that is hardly the point.

[rjv]

Not quite. I am hoping the resemblence will change over the coming cycle or two, especially when it comes to sucking up to business interests.

or signing off on every war and outrageous military spending proposal.

[Spurminator]

He is denying the rehearsal, which is the far creepier part of the story.