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    Yeah sure but too many people are bending over for these ing political ploys dressed as snowflake victims.

    It's one thing to be subjected to Harvey. Something else to get offended because someone kissed you.

    The timing of all these reveals is too convenient to have any real meaning other than political capital. It's unfortunate that some real abuse will get lost in all the spotlight hogging.
    totally agree. it all just seems fishy and very timed.

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    Ultra-conservative Alabama news outlet turns on Moore.

    http://yellowhammernews.com/politics...ded-roy-moore/
    J. Pepper Bryars: What this pro-life, deeply conservative and anti-establishment Alabama voter decided about Roy Moore

    But I also came to an uncomfortable but firm conclusion: the judge is lying, and the accusers are telling the truth.

    Here’s why, among many other reasons.


    First, Sean Hannity asked the judge a few days ago if he dated high school girls when he was in his 30s.


    The only acceptable answer to that question is, “Absolutely not.”


    But the judge said he didn’t “remember anything like that.”


    Come on …


    What man wouldn’t remember if, while in his 30s, he dated a 10th grader? That’s not something that slips one’s mind.


    Moore’s evasive and unbelievable answer instantly broke the bond of trust I had given him, and nothing he has said since has done anything to restore it. Quite the contrary, in fact.

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    Ultra-conservative Alabama news outlet turns on Moore.

    http://yellowhammernews.com/politics...ded-roy-moore/
    J. Pepper Bryars: What this pro-life, deeply conservative and anti-establishment Alabama voter decided about Roy Moore

    I just don't understand half ass denials like that. It was the same kind of denial Kevin Spacey gave about trying to hook up with that 14 year-old actor. It's obvious the accusations are true when you hear an answer like that. Or when he tried to justify it later by saying he got their mothers' permission. Such a sick . I can't imagine wanting to bone some 14, 15, 16 year old girls at that age. What's the attraction there? For one it's a kid. For two it's a ing kid. For three she has no idea how to please you at that age. Unless you get off on emotionally scarring a kid for life I guess.

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    Tbh, I feel like Al is a jerk but a comedian so he's liable to do anything for a laugh. I don't think someone would grope someone else while being photographed. I see that as a prank so she could see the photo later when she woke up. Still, when you get into the arena of accusations like he has, you can get hit with them too.
    That's the least I find disturbing tbh.

    It's the account where the woman says he actually forced himself onto her and shoved his tongue into her mouth. That's what's getting lost here because of the picture which is the least problematic thing.

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    The timing of all these reveals is too convenient to have any real meaning other than political capital.
    Because it is easier to believe in a cool conspiracy, than a paradigm shift in at udes.

    Stay cool. The world never changes.

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    Roy Moore's Threat Letter To Sue The Press Is An Artform In Bad Lawyering

    from the is-this-real-life? dept

    Roy Moore, of course, was the former Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, which would lead you to believe he knows a lot of good lawyers.

    And, yet, somehow, he ended up with Trenton Garmon.

    Garmon made some news earlier this week when he went on CNN with Don Lemon and called him "Don Lemon Squeezy Keep It Easy"

    But then he followed it up by sending one of the most profoundly ridiculous threat letters we've ever seen to the Alabama Media Group, the publisher of al.com, which has been reporting on Moore. You can click the link, or see it embedded below. It's fairly astounding. Beyond the poor grammar and the typos, it makes no sense.


    It starts out by basically arguing that AL.com's reporting was "careless" (a bit ironic, given the mistakes in the letter) but (as is typical of threat letters of this nature) without giving many specifics.

    It does claim that the reporting on Moore signing a high school yearbook was untrue, but does so in a weird way:

    Your client as an outlet is carelessly and perhaps maliciously reporting that my client, Judge Roy S. Moore, noted and signed a Yearbook of an accuser as a "DA" and in a manner which experts, to include our own, have confirmed is not consistent with his handwriting (To wit: structure, strokes, slant, base alignment, etc.) and does not comport to his typical vernacular.

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...awyering.shtml

    Darmon was the genetically deformed asshole from the degraded gene pool of Alabama who implied on CNN to Ali Velshi, from Ali's "background", should know all about ing underage girls.

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    Repugs are promoting lawyers like Trenton Garmon (and KrazyAnn Kelly).

    Imagine an army of bag Repug lawyers before the Repugs' army of unqualified bag judges like Brett J. Talley

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    Because it is easier to believe in a cool conspiracy, than a paradigm shift in at udes.

    Stay cool. The world never changes.
    When you have to leave things out of my comment just to make a point, you don't really have a point to make.

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    When you have to leave things out of my comment just to make a point, you don't really have a point to make.

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    Yeah sure but too many people are bending over for these ing political ploys dressed as snowflake victims.

    It's one thing to be subjected to Harvey. Something else to get offended because someone kissed you.

    The timing of all these reveals is too convenient to have any real meaning other than political capital. It's unfortunate that some real abuse will get lost in all the spotlight hogging.
    Because it is easier to believe in a cool conspiracy, than a paradigm shift in at udes.

    Stay cool. The world never changes.
    When you have to leave things out of my comment just to make a point, you don't really have a point to make.
    Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

    What are you, 40? The meme thing is behind you, let it go.

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    Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

    What are you, 40? The meme thing is behind you, let it go.
    No point to make, so you shift to personal attacks. Be more predictable.

    What are you going to do for an encore, lie about hating conservatism?

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    Repugs are promoting lawyers like Trenton Garmon (and KrazyAnn Kelly).

    Imagine an army of bag Repug lawyers before the Repugs' army of unqualified bag judges like Brett J. Talley
    Funny is that Yonivore et al. have taken to aping the Moore's lawyer's talking points.

    Makes their concern for the victims ring pretty hollow.

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    ‘It’s about power’: Religion expert explains why evangelicals are flocking to defend Roy Moore

    St. Louis professor Marie Griffith, author of Moral Combat: How Sex Divided American Christians and Fractured American Politics, Griffith explained that Christians defending Moore over accusations that he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old when he was a 32-year-old lawyer isn’t “hypocrisy” – it’s how they see the world.

    “I think what we’re seeing is an extreme politicization of Christianity.

    It almost does not feel like the evangelical tradition of a generation ago.

    I don’t want to overstate that, of course—there’s plenty that’s still evangelicalism.

    But it has become so focused on power,” Griffith explained.

    “It looks like hypocrisy to the outside world. I’m not sure I quite see it as hypocrisy, but I do see it as a real politicization of the tradition.”

    “Maybe it really does come down, even unconsciously, to politics. I hate to make people sound so calculating, but in some ways, that is what it seems,”

    “Those who were already supportive of Clarence Thomas were primed not to believe in any sort of moral failing.

    By the time [Anita] Hill’s story became public and widely known, there had already been great controversy over his nomination and very strong support coming from the conservative Christian world. There wasn’t a frame in that world except to disbelieve the story she told.”

    The Bible has things to say about sex. But for Jesus, in the New Testament, it’s not a major thing at all,”

    “He’s far more concerned with feeding the poor and caring for those in need. When you look back over the last century of Christian argumentation and political concern, however, it’s had a lot more to do with sex than with caring for the poor.”

    “But the

    motivating concerns are sex, birth control, obscenity and censorship laws, sex education in public schools, and even abortion
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    which has a lot to do with sex and sexual morality,

    “Men’s virginity has never been a deep subject of reflection. It comes up, kind of like, ‘Yeah, yeah, men should be sexually pure, too.’

    But female virginity and purity has been such a strong theme,

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/its-about-power-religion-expert-explains-why-evangelicals-are-flocking-to-defend-roy-moore/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

    And who drives, defines religion? who wrote the Bible?

    men, and men want their pussies to be virginal, while blaming all of mankind's woes on women, starting with Eve and her phallic serpent.






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    Sean Hannity isn’t in the driver’s seat, but Steve Bannon is

    Hannity’s curious actions this week may have been driven by Breitbart dictum

    According to CNN, Steve Bannon — Breitbart's founder and conservative soul — told Hannity to back off his demands:

    An intervention by Steve Bannon might have moved Sean Hannity off of his initial stance questioning inconsistencies in Roy Moore’s stories.

    Bannon called Hannity following his Tuesday night ultimatum and urged the host to dial back the harsh criticism,

    a source familiar with the conversation confirmed. On Wednesday night's show, Hannity said it's up to the voters to decide...

    Breitbart's support of Roy Moore is stronger than its support of the Republican Party, and the outlet is ready to blow up what was as surefire GOP win in order to push its movement.

    In a profile this week in Politico, Breitbart's editor-in-chief, Alex Marlow, admitted that his outlet was firmly in Roy Moore's camp. The only question is

    who, in addition to the Republican Party, they're ready to torch if someone gets in their way.

    https://www.salon.com/2017/11/17/sea...eve-bannon-is/




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    Wendy Miller

    Wendy Miller, the second woman named in The Washington Post story said that she first met Moore when she was 14 years old and working as a Santa’s Helper at the local mall. She said Moore asked her out on dates two years later but they did not go out because her mother forbade it.

    During the same interview with Hannity, Moore was asked about both Miller’s claims and then about Corfman’s in the same question, and he pointed to political sabotage as the explanation for all of the allegations.

    "I've run five successful campaigns or five campaigns, statewide campaigns, three in the county. This has never been brought up. It has never been even mentioned and all of a sudden, four weeks out, they're bringing out -- they're bringing up -- because it's political. It's a direct attack on this campaign and it involves a 14-year-old girl, which I would have never had any contact with -- nothing with her mother or any courthouse or anywhere else -- would I have done that,” he told Hannity.

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    Debbie Wesson Gibson

    Debbie Wesson Gibson told The Washington Post that she was 17 years old when she met Moore after he spoke to her high school civics class. Gibson told the paper that it was then that Moore asked her out on several dates “that did not progress beyond kissing."

    Moore said that he did recognize the maiden name of this accuser, Debbie Wesson, and a subsequent accuser, but denied the allegations.

    "I do not remember speaking to civics class. I don't remember that. I do not remember when we ... I seem to know or remember knowing her parents ... that they were friends. I can't recall the specific dates because that's been 40 years, but I remember her as a good girl. But neither of them have ever stated any inappropriate behavior. She didn't say anything,” Moore told Hannity on the same program.

    Moore said that he doesn’t “remember specific dates." Hannity then asked him again, “You never dated her ever? Is that what you’re saying?”

    "No, but I don't remember going out on dates. I knew her as a friend. If we did go on dates then we did. But I do not remember that,” Moore replied.

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    Gloria Thacker Deason

    Gloria Thacker Deason told The Washington Post that she was an 18-year-old cheerleader when Moore started taking her out on dates. During those dates, they drank bottles of wine, which would have been illegal for Deason at the time because the drinking age in Alabama was 19.

    When Moore was asked by Hannity if the dates with Deason happened, and specifically if they included the consumption of alcohol, Moore said: “No. Because in this county is a dry county. We would never would have had liquor.”

    "I never provided alcohol, beer or intoxicating liquor to a minor. That'd be against the law and against anything I would have ever done,” Moore said.

    In spite of what Moore said, the county was not dry at the time that Deason alleges she went on dates with Moore. According to The Washington Post article, the dates that she alleges happened would have taken place in Etowah County in 1979. Etowah County approved legal alcohol sales in 1972.

    Earlier in the interview, Moore acknowledged that he recognized Deason's maiden name.

    "I seem to remember her as a good girl or I seem to remember I had some sort of knowledge of her parents, her mother in particular,” Moore told Hannity.

    Yonivore

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    The latest accuser came forward on Monday, reading a detailed statement at a news conference in New York alongside attorney Gloria Allred.

    Beverly Young Nelson said she met Moore when she was 15 years old while waiting tables at a restaurant in Gadsden, Alabama. The future judge acted in a “flirtatious manner” and even signed her yearbook “Merry Christmas” and “Love, Roy Moore, D.A,” Nelson said.

    Nelson said that a short time later, after she turned 16, Moore offered to give her a ride home after work one night.

    Instead, she said, he parked his car next to a dumpster behind the restaurant and sexually assaulted her.

    "Mr. Moore reached over and began groping me, putting his hands on my breasts," Nelson said in her statement. "I tried to open my car door to leave, but he reached over and locked it so I could not get out. I tried fighting him off while yelling at him to stop, but instead of stopping, he began squeezing my neck, attempting to force my head onto his crotch."

    "I continued to struggle. I was determined that I was not going to allow him to force me to have sex with him. I was terrified. He was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought that he was going to rape me. I was twisting and struggling and begging him to stop. I had tears running down my face," Nelson said in her statement.

    "At some point, he gave up. He then looked at me and said, ‘You are a child. I am the district attorney of Etowah County. If you tell anyone about this, no one will believe you,'" Nelson added.

    Moore’s campaign team had released a statement before Nelson’s news conference saying that attorney Allred “is a sensationalist leading a witch hunt,” according to The Associated Press.

    Moore later spoke publicly, calling Nelson’s accusations of sexual misconduct against him "absolutely false."

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    Tina Johnson

    In a story published on AL.com Wednesday, Tina Johnson of Gadsden, Alabama, described being allegedly groped by Moore after meeting with him in 1991 to review a custody pe ion involving her son and mother.

    Johnson, who was 28 at the time, said Moore complimented her looks multiple times and sat within close proximity to her at times during their meeting. As she left his office, Johnson claims Moore grabbed her buttocks. She said she was caught off-guard by the action and did not tell her mother, who was also present.

    "He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it," Johnson recounted in the story.

    Moore has yet to specifically comment on Johnson's story and AL.com noted that a spokesperson for his campaign did not provide a response as of Wednesday afternoon. Reached by phone by ABC News, Johnson confirmed the details in the AL.com story about her alleged encounter with Moore.

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    Gena Richardson

    Gena Richardson told The Washington Post in a story published Wednesday evening that Moore first approached her at the Gadsden Mall in 1977, when she was a high school senior.

    Richardson said Moore asked where she went to school and for her phone number. She declined to give it to him, she said.

    Days later, she said she received a call at her school from Moore.

    “I said ‘ o?’” she told the Post. “And the male on the other line said, ‘Gena, this is Roy Moore.’ I was like, ‘What?!’ He said, ‘What are you doing?’ I said, ‘I’m in trig class.’ ”

    Richardson said she eventually agreed to go on a date with Moore. The date allegedly ended with him driving her to a parking lot behind Sears, where he gave her a “forceful” kiss.

    “I never wanted to see him again,” Richardson, now 58, said.

    Moore’s campaign did not address Richardson’s allegations in a statement to the Post.

    “If you are a liberal and hate Judge Moore, apparently he groped you,” the statement said. “If you are a conservative and love Judge Moore, you know these allegations are a political farce.”

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    Becky Gray

    In an interview with The Washington Post, Becky Gray said she was 22 and working at Pizitz when Moore first approached her.

    Gray said Moore asked her out repeatedly. “I’d always say no, I’m dating someone, no, I’m in a relationship,” she said.

    Gray told the Post that she found Moore’s alleged overtures so disturbing that she complained to the manager of Pizitz, who she says told her it was “not the first time he had a complaint about [Moore] hanging out at the mall.”

    Moore’s campaign did not address Gray’s allegations in a statement to the Post.

    “If you are a liberal and hate Judge Moore, apparently he groped you,” the statement said. “If you are a conservative and love Judge Moore, you know these allegations are a political farce.”

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    Fox panelist defends Roy Moore: He hasn’t molested any teens ‘that we know of’ since getting married

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/fox...e+Raw+Story%29

    HUGE qualification!

    Therefore, before Moore was married and was 30+ year old, Fox approves Moore going after and/or sexually abusing many teeny boppers?



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    Alabama justice says the First Amendment only protects Christians
    http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/j...nly-christians

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    " sexual conduct should be illegal

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    Suspended Judge Roy Moore's son arrested for 8th time—still white and privileged



    phobic hypocrite (are there any other kinds?) Roy Moore’s bad year is getting worse.

    His 26-year-old son, Caleb has been arrested for an eighth time in about six years. If you don’t remember Chief Justice of the Alabama State Supreme Court Roy Moore,

    he’s the phobe who refuses his responsibilities to our country’s Cons ution and then getting either fired or suspended.

    Moore’s son Caleb seems to have run afoul of the law over this past Thanksgiving’s day weekend.

    Caleb Elisha Moore, 26, of Gallant, was arrested Friday, according to Etowah County Sheriff's spokeswoman Natalie Barton.


    Moore was arrested for hunting without permission and hunting over bait. Both are misdemeanors.

    Not a big deal, but this isn’t the young Moore’s first tango with the law.

    It is the latest in a long line of arrests for the 25-year-old, dating back to 2013, when he was arrested for third-degree domestic violence in Troy.


    A few months later, he was arrested in St. Clair County on possession of drug paraphernalia and given a three-month suspended sentence.

    He was also ordered to attend a drug rehab clinic, where he later tested positive for drug use.

    A judge ruled he met the conditions of his treatment plan.

    In 2011, Moore was busted for drunk driving.

    A couple of years ago Moore was arrested for drug possession and

    driving while under the influence.

    The scarier mandatory drug charges were later dropped.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...and-privileged

    If he were black and father unknown, in ing Alabama?


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