How to rig an election

[Pavlov]

That's a fair and valid point, and honestly, end of the conversation. But, going back to our earlier tangent, what if every American was given a standardized ID, would you be against it then?

If the process were free, easy, federalized and advertised, that would take away most objections I could think of.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But can't that same logic hold true to everything that an ID is required for?

It should be obvious that is not the case. All the other things are either not a right or have other rights that are being infringed. There is no right being infringed that voter IDs protects.

[Chucho]

I'm a fake intellectual

Something we can agree on.

[Chucho]

It should be obvious that is not the case. All the other things are either not a right or have other rights that are being infringed. There is no right being infringed that voter IDs protects.

Aside from RG's data, the hypothesis would be that the integrity of the election outcome is as uncompromised as possible. Everyone has the right to vote, that includes the right to a fair and clean election result.

[Chucho]

If the process were free, easy, federalized and advertised, that would take away most objections I could think of.

Thank you.

[DMC]

One is a Cons utional right and the other's are not. And the article lays out a clear case with evidence that your posting has not response to.

There's no cons utional right to vote, Fuzz nuts.

There is a cons utional right to keep and bear arms, but guess what? You have to have an ID! You going to protest that or do you want even more restrictions?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Aside from RG's data, the hypothesis would be that the integrity of the election outcome is as uncompromised as possible. Everyone has the right to vote, that includes the right to a fair and clean election result.

And if there were proof that there was fraud that the ID laws would stop they would have won their case. This was litigated in court.

You're wrong. Deal with it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There's no cons utional right to vote, Fuzz nuts.

There is a cons utional right to keep and bear arms, but guess what? You have to have an ID! You going to protest that or do you want even more restrictions?

Just because it not in the bill of rights doesn't mean that it is not articulated in the Cons ution, dimwit.

The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

And again their is a right to life and property given by the 14th which IDs for gun purchases protects. The court weighed the two and decided to allow ID for background checks.

[spurraider21]

We've been over this in another thread

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264991

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i said that? i don't specifically remember saying that but sure. i believe IDs should be required. i get no help in life, barely scrape by, and yet i can still afford an ID so what's the excuse for all the losers out there without one?

whether or not it will fix or not fix the issue is besides the point. need an ID to prove you're of age for many things and same should be the case to vote imo.




hilarious! now i'm a white supremacist? hahaha! go figure that would be next on your insults/name calling. it's par for the course though you've yet to call me a russian bot or a nazi. actually was it you calling me a ruski or am i mistaken?

btw fuzzy, do you sit back and drool over how much HRC drools over an actual grand wizard or you just brush that to the side because she's so progressive?

You made a go to argument of the KKK and the like when you painted the minorities being oppressed as lazy and wasteful. It is what it is.

I don't like the Clintons. I did not vote for her nor do I support her. I put her in the same boat as Wasserman, Schuler, Pelosi, and Feinstein. Nice strawman though.

[Chucho]

And if there were proof that there was fraud that the ID laws would stop they would have won their case. This was litigated in court.

You're wrong. Deal with it.

You're not as smart as you think you are and you were exposed for the umpteenth time by Pavlov. Deal with it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We've been over this in another thread

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264991

Precisely why DMC is not to be taken seriously. He lost the argument that time too yet here he is blithely making the same initial assertion.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're not as smart as you think you are and you were exposed for the umpteenth time by Pavlov. Deal with it.

if you so say so.

We both know you cannot articulate how that is the case.

[spurraider21]

The government can't discriminate voting rights by race, age, sex, etc.

It is the states that grant the affirmative right to vote, through their state cons utions. This is because states vote for president (electors), and those states have given citizens the right to vote on their behalf

[Chucho]

if you so say so.

We both know you cannot articulate how that is the case.

There's no need to articulate the case, you simpleton. There's pages of him owning you and showing you exactly where you were wrong. It's very simple, you were wrong. This is just another episode, on the never-ending list, of you not being as smart as you think you are. Feel free to put me back on your ignore list, you're a bore.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There's no need to articulate the case, you simpleton. There's pages of him owning you and showing you exactly where you were wrong. It's very simple, you were wrong. This is just another episode, on the never-ending list, of you not being as smart as you think you are. Feel free to put me back on your ignore list, you're a bore.

Need or not, you cannot do it.

And I am such a bore you are compelled to respond. You are trying much too hard to be believable. Assert less and demonstrate more, dimwit.

[DarrinS]

[Pavlov]

Do you think this guy in the video actually voted twice, Darrin?

Yes or no.

[Clipper Nation]

Canada, Sweden, Ireland, Mexico, India, and many other countries have voter ID laws on the books. Is that voter suppression too, or is it only problematic if the US does it?

[DarrinS]

[DarrinS]

Judge obviously a racist

[Pavlov]

ID law would have done nothing in this case. Thanks for proving the system works though.

Are you going to comment on anything or just post YouTubes, Darrin?

[Pavlov]

Judge obviously a racist

Not the judge.

[spurraider21]

Canada, Sweden, Ireland, Mexico, India, and many other countries have voter ID laws on the books. Is that voter suppression too, or is it only problematic if the US does it?

Most of those don't require photo ID. Just something with their name and address. Heck, Mexico and Switzerland send voters their registration cards in the mail, and if you bring that with you, you're good. In Ireland you can show a credit card with your name on it and that's good enough .

[Clipper Nation]

Most of those don't require photo ID. Just something with their name and address. Heck, Mexico and Switzerland send voters their registration cards in the mail, and if you bring that with you, you're good. In Ireland you can show a credit card with your name on it and that's good enough .

Personally, I like how India does it:

India allows the use of fifteen different types of identification, ranging from property do ents to arms licenses to income tax iden y cards. Included, too, are forms of identification most likely to be possessed by the poor.... For instance, voters can present ration cards issued to the poor to allow them to buy food staples and kerosene oil at subsidized prices.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.bf0b3c6753e3

So inclusive that there is literally no excuse that anyone can use to discredit it.