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    nope. Looks like most of the trouble will come from their lying about Russia, which leads to the question -- why were they all lying so much about Russia?
    Best post in the entire thread.

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    Mueller running a train on these niccas.

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    https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

    I'm having trouble finding anything in there about the election
    Your reading skills are not the standard by which the rest of us should be judged.

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    Your reading skills are not the standard by which the rest of us should be judged.
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    no self control

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    Do you think a plea deal proves he was never in major trouble?
    I think he is being charged for the crimes he committed. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

    I'm having trouble finding anything in there about the election
    Flynn is rolling over on and ratting someone else out.

    Please make more statements about how this isn't about the election.

    Specifically make a statement that there wasn't any collusion during the election, and that no charges will be filed against a member of the Trump team for actions undertaken during the election.

    Please, oh please, oh please...

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    It's adorable that you get a sense of accomplishment because I respond to your posts.

    Your reading skills are demonstrably bad and your word is not valid that a do ent does or does not contain information. You should try a different argument.

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    Nevertheless, as I explained in connection with George Papadopoulos (who also pled guilty in Mueller’s investigation for lying to the FBI), when a prosecutor has a cooperator who was an accomplice in a major criminal scheme, the cooperator is made to plead guilty to the scheme. This is critical because it proves the existence of the scheme. In his guilty-plea allocution (the part of a plea proceeding in which the defendant admits what he did that makes him guilty), the accomplice explains the scheme and the actions taken by himself and his co-conspirators to carry it out. This goes a long way toward proving the case against all of the subjects of the investigation.

    That is not happening in Flynn’s situation. Instead, like Papadopoulos, he is being permitted to plead guilty to a mere process crime. A breaking report from ABC News indicates that Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians — initially to lay the groundwork for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. That, however, is exactly the sort of thing the incoming national-security adviser is supposed to do in a transition phase between administrations. If it were part of the basis for a “collusion” case arising out of Russia’s election meddling, then Flynn would not be pleading guilty to a process crime — he’d be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy.

    Understand: If Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador had evinced the existence of a quid pro quo collusion arrangement — that the Trump administration would ease or eliminate sanctions on Russia as a payback for Russia’s cyber-espionage against the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic party — it would have been completely appropriate, even urgently necessary, for the Obama Justice Department to investigate Flynn. But if that had happened, Mueller would not be permitting Flynn to settle the case with a single count of lying to FBI agents. Instead, we would be looking at a major conspiracy indictment, and Flynn would be made to plead to far more serious offenses if he wanted a deal — cooperation in exchange for sentencing leniency.

    To the contrary, for all the furor, we have a small-potatoes plea in Flynn’s case — just as we did in Papadopoulos’s case, despite extensive “collusion” evidence. Meanwhile, the only major case Mueller has brought, against former Trump-campaign chairman Paul Manafort and an associate, has nothing to do with the 2016 election. It is becoming increasingly palpable that, whatever “collusion” means, there was no actionable, conspiratorial complicity by the Trump campaign in the Kremlin’s machinations.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-investigation

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    I think he is being charged for the crimes he committed. Nothing more, nothing less.
    I accept this as you position until you are instructed to call Flynn a Satan-worshiping baby eater.

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    I don't think anyone reads tspoopoo.

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    Flynn is rolling over on and ratting someone else out.

    Please make more statements about how this isn't about the election.

    Specifically make a statement that there wasn't any collusion during the election, and that no charges will be filed against a member of the Trump team for actions undertaken during the election.

    Please, oh please, oh please...
    process crime

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    even the National Review is going for the THANKS OBAMA deflection instead of a legitimate argument.

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    Flynn is rolling over on and ratting someone else out.

    Please make more statements about how this isn't about the election.

    Specifically make a statement that there wasn't any collusion during the election, and that no charges will be filed against a member of the Trump team for actions undertaken during the election.

    Please, oh please, oh please...
    "If it were part of the basis for a “collusion” case arising out of Russia’s election meddling, then Flynn would not be pleading guilty to a process crime — he’d be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy."

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    Lying-to-FBI crime, somewhat of a low-hanging fruit, is not necessarily Flynn's only crime.

    There are still the IRS crimes of money laundering, tax evasion with the Russian and Turkish money.

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    Pretty bad when Trump propaganda personalities start saying like this...


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    process crime
    MY understanding of a plea deal is that you plead to a lesser crime in exchange for something in return. We have shown you where Flynn is going to link Trump to he and the rest of the inner circle talking to the Russians concerning sanctions.

    This should not be hard. yet here you are handwaving at the lesser crime he pled out to like that is meaningful. I mean stupid is par the course for you but do you really expect people not beholden to the echo chamber to buy this ?

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    "If it were part of the basis for a “collusion” case arising out of Russia’s election meddling, then Flynn would not be pleading guilty to a process crime — he’d be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy."
    In your own words explain why a plea deal demands that specific charge.

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    In your own words explain why a plea deal demands that specific charge.
    Because the Ntional Reviw says so

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    Because the Ntional Reviw says so
    It's been sad to watch NR slowly go Breitbart over the time since Buckley died. Going from standing up to McCarthyism to embracing Pizzagate.

    I stopped reading it.

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    MY understanding of a plea deal is that you plead to a lesser crime in exchange for something in return. We have shown you where Flynn is going to link Trump to he and the rest of the inner circle talking to the Russians concerning sanctions.

    This should not be hard. yet here you are handwaving at the lesser crime he pled out to like that is meaningful. I mean stupid is par the course for you but do you really expect people not beholden to the echo chamber to buy this ?
    "we have shown you"---actually no, that was my link showing you.

    Flynn asked that Russia not escalate after the sanctions. Where is the crime? This should not be hard.

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    "we have shown you"---actually no, that was my link showing you.

    Flynn asked that Russia not escalate after the sanctions. Where is the crime? This should not be hard.
    It really shouldn't be yet you continually miss the point.

    The point is that he has already pled guilty in exchange for cooperating with investigators. The ship has already sailed yet your dumbass is still playing defense attorney for him. I do like how you act like your reading skills have made your knowledge on this subject exhaustive though.

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    Damn. How about that.
    and Reck posted it not you TSA

    Nice to see there is still no reason to ever take you at your word.

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    It really shouldn't be yet you continually miss the point.

    The point is that he has already pled guilty in exchange for cooperating with investigators. The ship has already sailed yet your dumbass is still playing defense attorney for him. I do like how you act like your reading skills have made your knowledge on this subject exhaustive though.
    You brought up the sanctions as if there was an illegal quid pro quo involved. Flynn asked that Russia not escalate after the sanctions. Where is the crime? This should not be hard.

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    You brought up the sanctions as if there was an illegal quid pro quo involved. Flynn asked that Russia not escalate after the sanctions. Where is the crime? This should not be hard.
    Read the part where I talked about exhaustive and try again. If I don't respond its not because I am surrendering the point but rather that you are too stupid to grasp the rebuttal I made.

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    and Reck posted it not you TSA

    Nice to see there is still no reason to ever take you at your word.
    Nothing in Reck's post about what Flynn was talking to Russians about. That came from me, TSA

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