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    Rick Wilson
    this Eli Lake piece is, well, huge
    Logan Act violation

    Nonetheless, nothing in the Flynn plea sheds any light on whether the Trump campaign actually colluded with Russia to influence the election.
    One leading theory pushed Friday by Democrats involves a violation of a 1799 statute known as the Logan Act. A relic of the John Adams administration, this discredited law makes it illegal for a private U.S. citizen to undermine the foreign policy of a sitting president in contact with a foreign power. No American has ever been successfully prosecuted under that law.
    This is what Senator Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said on Friday: "This shows a Trump associate negotiating with the Russians against U.S. policy and interests before Donald Trump took office and after it was announced that Russia had interfered in our election. That’s a stunning revelation and could be a violation of the Logan Act, which forbids unauthorized U.S. citizens from negotiating with a foreign power."

    If that's all there is, then the whispers of collusion will look foolish.

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    I think he is being charged for the crimes he committed. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Why is he being charged with crimes that the fbi cleared him of?

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    Why is he being charged with crimes that the fbi cleared him of?
    He's not.

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    Logan Act lol.

    Good luck prosecuting anyone over that. There is a reason it hasn't been used in 220 years...its a clear violation of the 1st amendment.

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    He plead guilty to lying to the FBI not for talking to Kislyak. What crime do you think was committed in his discussions with Kislyak?
    so a guy who did nothing wrong decided to lie to the FBI which is a massive offense for the sake of it ? Maybe he was just joking around...

    oh boy... trump s

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    Logan Act lol.

    Good luck prosecuting anyone over that. There is a reason it hasn't been used in 220 years...its a clear violation of the 1st amendment.
    220 year statute is stupid because it contradicts 230 year old do ent

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    Logan Act lol.

    Good luck prosecuting anyone over that. There is a reason it hasn't been used in 220 years...its a clear violation of the 1st amendment.
    Probably right. Flynn is the first step in building a case, get the low level people in on as much as you can, to get them to start talking in earnest.

    That gets you the probable cause to start getting serious warrants for stuff.

    This is the crack in the dam, if there was some serious going down. At this point the dozen+ oligarchs and Russian officials of one level or another that we have do ented as having met with Team Trump make a pretty convincing case that there was a lot more going on than Trump is admitting to.
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    Trump has been compromised by the Russians somehow, and all these meetings are clearly symptomatic. I think lists of people the Russians find "acceptable" have been communicated to Trump in some way, and that is why you see this level of communication.

    The only thing to iron out is what specifically was communicated, and if that was criminal.

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    I find it amusing that our GOPo s are acting like what we know is the totality of the scope of the investigation. As if the FBI hasn't a long history of selective release of information to further their ivestigation.

    Only a dumb tribalist doesn't understand that the ongoing investigation has both legitimacy and legs; giving the total case serves no purpose to the end game. I am content to allow Mueller to do his job. He has done it well to this point.

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    I think TheSatanityAnnex was ing about wanting to know this this earlier.



    A bargain tbh.

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    I think TheSatanityAnnex was ing about wanting to know this this earlier.



    A bargain tbh.
    FBI's annual budget is pushing $9b for context.

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    I think TheSatanityAnnex was ing about wanting to know this this earlier.



    A bargain tbh.
    Repugs spent about $10M on Benghazi, no indictments, such a bargain.

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    Repugs spent about $10M on Benghazi, no indictments, such a bargain.
    The House investigation alone was $7 million.


    But I dingress.

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    LOL cuckner is finished.


    Get in here baseline bum

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    The Trump Crime Family Is Collapsing As A Top Senate Investigator Is Coming For Jared Kushner and Trump Jr.

    Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA), the ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters that due to information that Mike Flynn has given, investigators now want to talk to Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Jr.

    Sen. Warner said,

    “I think we have got more work to do and we will do have a number of major figures like Donald Trump Jr.

    And I want to bring back Jared Kushner in light of the supposed comments that General Flynn may have been making.

    We have Michael Colin ??? and others that need to come back.

    We have more facts to gather.

    There seems to be this — we have two people pleading guilty.

    We have a campaign manager and his deputy still under indictment.

    How many more figures have to be brought to justice because of their ties with Russia. Before we end up connecting the dots.”

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/...iticus+USA+%29

    I expect Repugs will block the Dems.



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    Fox News reporter mocks Trump for abruptly canceling White House photo op after Flynn guilty plea

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/fox...e+Raw+Story%29

    Trash's new bumper sticker: "I'd Rather Be Golfing (or Grabbing Pussies)"


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    The House investigation alone was $7 million.


    But I dingress.
    best ding by far

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    ‘Hollywood would not write a plot this stupid’: Trump loyalist melts down over Flynn guilty plea



    Jack Posobiec —

    one of President Donald Trump’s most
    feverishly devoted followers and

    promoter of the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory —

    is having a noisy meltdown after news broke Friday morning that disgraced national security adviser Mike Flynn has entered a guilty plea in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe.

    In a live-streamed rant, Posobiec —

    who has been called a
    “right-wing Forrest Gump”of right-wing lies, conspiracies and smear attempts

    — greeted the news that Flynn is cooperating with investigators as

    “quite possibly the dumbest and worst Tom Clancy novel you ever read” and

    claimed “even Hollywood would not write a plot that was this stupid.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/hol...e+Raw+Story%29

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    LOL cuckner is finished.


    Get in here baseline bum
    Transition team doing transition team things. What crime did Kushner commit Reck?

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    Transition team doing transition team things. What crime did Kushner commit Reck?
    You got balls still posting in this here thread.

    Stay tune.

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    I think TheSatanityAnnex was ing about wanting to know this this earlier.



    A bargain tbh.
    $5 million for $1000 in fines. Lol bargain.

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    You got balls still posting in this here thread.

    Stay tune.
    Unlike you I don’t cower and retreat for months.

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