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    Collins is supporting it now, so this bull is going to happen.
    yep, and I bet the less horrible stuff in Senate version gets killed in conference so the House version will dominate.

    The oligarchy's ROI (in buying Repug s) is in the 100s, if not higher.

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    Republican tax plan still on track to trigger $150 billion in cuts—like $25 billion from Medicare

    The GOP’s $1.5 trillion tax plan would trigger $150 billion in cuts to domestic programs every year for a decade if Congress doesn’t step in, according to the CBO.

    That would include $25 billion from the money Medicare pays health care providers.


    "You’re likely to have doctors who will see less patients;

    you’re likely to have hospitals and other health care facilities cut back on certain services,”

    said David Certner, legislative counsel for the AARP, which has loudly opposed cutting Medicare. “It really affects the program.”

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/1/1720109/-Republican-tax-plan-still-on-track-to-trigger-150-billion-in-cuts-like-25-billion-from-Medicare?detail=emaildkre1



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    Make America great

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    "Drain the Swamp"

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    Collins is supporting it now, so this bull is going to happen.
    It passed.

    No debate, they didn't even read it.

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    So let's say Dems win house and Congress in 2020 how much of this can they immediately undo?

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    Tax cuts for the rich.

    Trump benefits to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Cuts to Medicaid.

    Exactly all the thing Trump said he wouldn't do.

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    So let's say Dems win house and Congress in 2020 how much of this can they immediately undo?
    With a Democratic president, whatever they want to, which is likely a lot.

    Ironically, though it opens the door for more spending. GOP has, essentially, passed a tax increase on the middle class, so the Dems don't have to. They can increase taxes on the wealthy, a very politically easy thing to do, and get something like single payer.

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    Cuts to Medicaid.

    Exactly all the thing Trump said he wouldn't do.
    The cuts to Medicaid, Medicare, SS have not really been done, but they are coming. Chained CPI will make retirees and the lower quintiles dependent on SS worse off, Medicare will be terminated, replaced hilariously inadequate vouchers to buy for-profit insurance with much higher copays and deductivles, Medicaid be severely restricted, hospitals and clinics, esp rural, will be closed. People will suffer and die by the Ms.

    Trash's base is too ing stupid to know how badly the oligarchy is and will be impoverishing them, screwing them into disease and death, to make the oligarchy even more wealthy.

    So ing stupid, Trash's base think the tax cut is good for themselves.

    Will the Repug tax cut do ent NOW be made known to Congress and to the public?

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    rethuglicans destroying our country with this smh.

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    rethuglicans destroying our country with this smh.
    they're just mopping up, which will continue with privatization of everything. I have no doubt Interstate Highways will become 100-year-concession toll roads.

    a zero sum game, more wealth for the oligarchy means less wealth for the non-oligarchy.

    As has been the case over the last fully RIGGED decade, 90%+ of all growth in national wealth will go to the top 5%.

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    Tax cuts for the rich.

    Trump benefits to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Cuts to Medicaid.

    Exactly all the thing Trump said he wouldn't do.
    Lol reasoning with ducks

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    The Senate bill will now need to be reconciled with the House-passed bill in a conference committee. Differences between the two bills include the number of individual tax brackets and the timing of when the corporate tax cut takes effect.

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    Business with Corp tax from 35 to 20 needed to bring more business back.

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    The Republican tax cut scheme is a Trojan horse to throw cancer patients out of treatment

    this bill will blow a $1.5 trillion hole in the deficit, it will also trigger an automatic $25 billion annual cut to Medicare, under a savage austerity scheme known as the "sequester.” And because of the unusual way Medicare covers chemotherapy drugs—which are very expensive—cancer patients are going to be uniquely burdened by these cuts.

    It’s also not in any way hypothetical, because it happened once before, back in 2013. This is how the headlines read at the time:

    Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequester.

    These cuts were never reversed, and they’ve had a devastating impact on cancer care.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkbn

    http://www.cancernetwork.com/practic...rming-oncology

    Now, the Repugs are running CMS, HHS, etc, the health care will be cut back even more. aka, voluntary manslaughter, no accountability.



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    The cuts to Medicaid, Medicare, SS have not really been done, but they are coming. Chained CPI will make retirees and the lower quintiles dependent on SS worse off, Medicare will be terminated, replaced hilariously inadequate vouchers to buy for-profit insurance with much higher copays and deductivles, Medicaid be severely restricted, hospitals and clinics, esp rural, will be closed. People will suffer and die by the Ms.

    Trash's base is too ing stupid to know how badly the oligarchy is and will be impoverishing them, screwing them into disease and death, to make the oligarchy even more wealthy.

    So ing stupid, Trash's base think the tax cut is good for themselves.

    Will the Repug tax cut do ent NOW be made known to Congress and to the public?
    Just like Clinton would be president? They are no cuts to those
    quite predicating you know nothing.

    Liberals want a bad economy so trump will not be re-elected they are the ones that do not care about you

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    So let's say Dems win house and Congress in 2020 how much of this can they immediately undo?
    With a bombing economy not likely

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    Just like Clinton would be president? They are no cuts to those
    quite predicating you know nothing.

    Liberals want a bad economy so trump will not be re-elected they are the ones that do not care about you
    This tax plan pretty much guarantees a bad economy in the future.

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    This tax plan pretty much guarantees a bad economy in the future.
    Reagan's tax cuts tanked the economy. It got better when they were raised.

    And the GOP can no longer talk about fiscal responsibility.

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    All those seniors who voted for Trump pretty much guaranteed themselves a big effective tax hike now with the individual mandate gone. That's going to collapse the ACA and then open back the donut hole in Medicare Part D drug coverage that would be closed by 2020 without Trump sabotaging the ACA.

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    And the GOP can no longer talk about fiscal responsibility.
    When could they ever?

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    When could they ever?
    Gingrich and Gramm circa 1996.

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    this is like net neutrality for me, what idiot regular person is for this how is this not the republicans shooting themselves in the foot?

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