I want Manu back for another year, tbh..

[Ice009]

Wow. I assume Kareem would have the record or is it Malone?

[Hoops Czar]

I'm glad these Ginobili threads get bumped once in a blue moon after he hits a rare game winning shot because it shows you just how true of a legend he once was and whenever he comes through with his rare heroic moment these days, posters want him back for another year. It's almost like people want to hold onto nostalgia forever. Let's just ignore the fact he's a net negative across the board, leads the team in turnovers, averages more turnovers than assists, shoots 29% from 3 and has a WS/48 of .045 (.100 being average), which is suggesting that he's playing at a flat out scrub level. I love Ginobili but this going a little bit too far. I'd love to see him comeback as an assistant coach but not a player.

[daledondale]

till the wheels fall off

[Diego20]

I'm glad these Ginobili threads get bumped once in a blue moon after he hits a rare game winning shot because it shows you just how true of a legend he once was and whenever he comes through with his rare heroic moment these days, posters want him back for another year. It's almost like people want to hold onto nostalgia forever. Let's just ignore the fact he's a net negative across the board, leads the team in turnovers, averages more turnovers than assists, shoots 29% from 3 and has a WS/48 of .045 (.100 being average), which is suggesting that he's playing at a flat out scrub level. I love Ginobili but this going a little bit too far. I'd love to see him comeback as an assistant coach but not a player.

Nop, nice try.

[diego]

I'm glad these Ginobili threads get bumped once in a blue moon after he hits a rare game winning shot because it shows you just how true of a legend he once was and whenever he comes through with his rare heroic moment these days, posters want him back for another year. It's almost like people want to hold onto nostalgia forever. Let's just ignore the fact he's a net negative across the board, leads the team in turnovers, averages more turnovers than assists, shoots 29% from 3 and has a WS/48 of .045 (.100 being average), which is suggesting that he's playing at a flat out scrub level. I love Ginobili but this going a little bit too far. I'd love to see him comeback as an assistant coach but not a player.

and yet:

Manu leads the league in charges taken/36 min for players that played at least 15 minute a game (tied for 2nd charges drawn total)
Manu leads the spurs in +- in clutch time
Manu leads the spurs in assists/TO ratio in clutch time
Manu leads the Spurs in TS% in clutch time
Manu is 8th in the league and leads the spurs in deflections/36 min

(taken from pounding the rock prior to celtics game)

[Phenomanul]

I'm glad these Ginobili threads get bumped once in a blue moon after he hits a rare game winning shot because it shows you just how true of a legend he once was and whenever he comes through with his rare heroic moment these days, posters want him back for another year. It's almost like people want to hold onto nostalgia forever. Let's just ignore the fact he's a net negative across the board, leads the team in turnovers, averages more turnovers than assists, shoots 29% from 3 and has a WS/48 of .045 (.100 being average), which is suggesting that he's playing at a flat out scrub level. I love Ginobili but this going a little bit too far. I'd love to see him comeback as an assistant coach but not a player.

It was against the team with the best record in basketball. It wasn't just any game Manu stepped up for - but one that mattered. When Kawhi comes back and rotations are more defined Manu's numbers will look like they always have.

[tholdren]

I'm gay

[Robz4000]

I'm glad these Ginobili threads get bumped once in a blue moon after he hits a rare game winning shot because it shows you just how true of a legend he once was and whenever he comes through with his rare heroic moment these days, posters want him back for another year. It's almost like people want to hold onto nostalgia forever. Let's just ignore the fact he's a net negative across the board, leads the team in turnovers, averages more turnovers than assists, shoots 29% from 3 and has a WS/48 of .045 (.100 being average), which is suggesting that he's playing at a flat out scrub level. I love Ginobili but this going a little bit too far. I'd love to see him comeback as an assistant coach but not a player.

Eh, Spurs won't be winning anything for a while so we might as well enjoy these moments while we can. If it means putting up with his four ty games to get one great game then so be it. , who knows, maybe we get another legendary game like we got in Game 5 against Houston last year.

[tholdren]

Eh, Spurs won't be winning anything for a while so we might as well enjoy these moments while we can. If it means putting up with his four ty games to get one great game then so be it. , who knows, maybe we get another legendary game like we got in Game 5 against Houston last year.

Cue play boban and his cry emoji for your tears

[BSfromTX]

Manu means more to the team than ANY stat sheet shows.

Im not making a case for him to come back, I agree there is a time to say no more when someone really can’t contribute anymore, but he’s not there yet... and I just wonder how many turnovers he would have if he’d been playing with Parker and Leonard rather than new inexperienced players

[UZER]

Manu means more to the team than ANY stat sheet shows.

Im not making a case for him to come back, I agree there is a time to say no more when someone really can’t contribute anymore, but he’s not there yet... and I just wonder how many turnovers he would have if he’d been playing with Parker and Leonard rather than new inexperienced players

Do you really wonder? Who Manu plays with never determines how many turnovers he has. He plays the same no matter who is on the floor. His turnovers are his and his alone.

[BackHome]

Until the wheels falls offf

[Play Boban]

I'm glad these Ginobili threads get bumped once in a blue moon after he hits a rare game winning shot because it shows you just how true of a legend he once was and whenever he comes through with his rare heroic moment these days, posters want him back for another year. It's almost like people want to hold onto nostalgia forever. Let's just ignore the fact he's a net negative across the board, leads the team in turnovers, averages more turnovers than assists, shoots 29% from 3 and has a WS/48 of .045 (.100 being average), which is suggesting that he's playing at a flat out scrub level. I love Ginobili but this going a little bit too far. I'd love to see him comeback as an assistant coach but not a player.

[ElNono]

This messican is pretty good, tbh... haters can suck it

[SAGirl]

This messican is pretty good, tbh... haters can suck it

they can...
is he back for another year Nono?
What do your "sauces" tell you?

[BSfromTX]

Do you really wonder? Who Manu plays with never determines how many turnovers he has. He plays the same no matter who is on the floor. His turnovers are his and his alone.

Still doesn’t bother me

[vander]

I'm glad these Ginobili threads get bumped once in a blue moon after he hits a rare game winning shot because it shows you just how true of a legend he once was and whenever he comes through with his rare heroic moment these days, posters want him back for another year. It's almost like people want to hold onto nostalgia forever. Let's just ignore the fact he's a net negative across the board, leads the team in turnovers, averages more turnovers than assists, shoots 29% from 3 and has a WS/48 of .045 (.100 being average), which is suggesting that he's playing at a flat out scrub level. I love Ginobili but this going a little bit too far. I'd love to see him comeback as an assistant coach but not a player.

well I don't love Ginobili, and have been probably a "hater" for most of his career. but he's been amazing for a 40 year old, it's a joy to watch, it's transcendent. at this salary I want Manu back for more than another year.

[Oscar DeLa]

I don't know what it is but he zeroed out again last night.

[SAGirl]

The fact he already negotiated that deal is precisely why he’s retiring I think, but I could be wrong. Pop would still want him back and he still has something left. It’s just that deal, not being able to opt out for more... seems like it.

[Phenomanul]

Do you really wonder? Who Manu plays with never determines how many turnovers he has. He plays the same no matter who is on the floor. His turnovers are his and his alone.

Not true.

I've made a deliberate point to observe who Manu shares court-time with this season (because the early VORP and RPM numbers were highly unusual for him). This year the amount of minutes he has been paired with 2-year or less Spurs' players has been higher than normal. When paired with the Spurs vets, his TOV rate diminishes substantially - because they know the offensive sets, where to be on the floor. When paired with Lauvergne, Murray, Paul, Forbes, Gay, White, or Bertans, is when he has piled up over ~75% of his TOV THIS season - he is constantly waving his hands pointing to the spots on the floor that his teammates need to be. Those plays all lag and so naturally many of them just fall apart.

Manu is still Manu though and some TOV are just an inevitable part of who he is.

[Phenomanul]

uh oh... Oscar DeLa is back with his "I don't know what it is..." schtick...

[spursistan]

Eh, Spurs won't be winning anything for a while so we might as well enjoy these moments while we can. If it means putting up with his four ty games to get one great game then so be it. , who knows, maybe we get another legendary game like we got in Game 5 against Houston last year.

^^
Bump..

This pretty much my take on the whole thing..Guy can still contribute to winning basketball games for this team, that is much clear..Memphis Series Manu? Yeah that dude should retire on the spot, but, in retrospect, it was one of those rough weeks a guy at his age can go through between now and then.

As he pushes 41, he's been really fine-- surprisingly healthier the past two seasons -- with no much regression outside 3 point shooting %.

[ElNono]

nostalgiafans

[ducks]

Murray needs to take his place his energy is good
Has those turnovers also like manu

[spursistan]

nostalgiafans

Still miss Timmy, tbh ..Shame he was undone by that knee because the fire and desire were still there..We are trotting out Errors 2.0 ffs..Wouldn't you take Old Man River Walk for those 10 minutes over him?