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    AaronY is a moderate. I think you are rather moderate. I think Baseline Bum is rather moderate, and Benefactor as well. El Nono is moderate, pgardn to a point is moderate.

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    Gotcha. Tho an equally accurate representation would be “anytime someone discusses a political topic DMc just comes in and says Hillary lost”

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    Gotcha. Tho an equally accurate representation would be “anytime someone discusses a political topic DMc just comes in and says Hillary lost”
    When the rational discourse turns to intentionally obtuse responses, that's what you deserve.

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    Look, another "me too" got.
    You saying nobody here can debate and then proceed to out fallacies all over the place.

    You're a ing idiot, tbh.

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    You saying nobody here can debate and then proceed to out fallacies all over the place.

    You're a ing idiot, tbh.
    What would you like to debate?

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    Aaron not knowing context again, just shooting from the hip. There used to be people here who could argue based on facts. Now it's just people like you who alt and troll your way through the discussions.
    Lol I presented facts.

    You presented zero facts.

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    That graph doesn’t represent voting trends tbh
    Huh? It represents his voting performance among Republicans in the primaries based on education levels.

    Like I stated in I think the next post I made maybe I got a little condescending here itt at times
    . But I do think without a doubt a lot of education achievement is based on intelligence. Also think Trump's policies in a lot if areas jive well with uneducated bigoted people's simplistic worldviews and solutions to problems

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    Lol I presented facts.

    You presented zero facts.
    You didn't get the context of why I made the comment.

    What facts did you present?

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    Huh? It represents his voting performance among Republicans in the primaries based on education levels.

    Like I stated in I think the next post I made maybe I got a little condescending here itt at times
    . But I do think without a doubt a lot of education achievement is based on intelligence. Also think Trump's policies in a lot if areas jive well with uneducated bigoted people's simplistic worldviews and solutions to problems
    It's valid. Trump was abandoned by every Republican non-politician that anyone would consider a conservative intellect. His appeal, outside of empty greed, is exclusively tribal, and tribalism is a characteristic of lower intelligence.

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    Huh? It represents his voting performance among Republicans in the primaries based on education levels.

    Like I stated in I think the next post I made maybe I got a little condescending here itt at times
    . But I do think without a doubt a lot of education achievement is based on intelligence. Also think Trump's policies in a lot if areas jive well with uneducated bigoted people's simplistic worldviews and solutions to problems
    Education achievement is also based on opportunity, unless you think poor families are just inherently dumb.

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    It's valid. Trump was abandoned by every Republican non-politician that anyone would consider a conservative intellect. His appeal, outside of empty greed, is exclusively tribal, and tribalism is a characteristic of lower intelligence.
    Do you take that same stance with black voters who will vote based on skin color?

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    You didn't get the context of why I made the comment.

    What facts did you present?
    The chart which showed Trumps performance among GOP primary based on education levels.

    Education achievement is also based on opportunity, unless you think poor families are just inherently dumb.
    I agree with this to an extent. If you watch that season of the Wire with all the black kids like some of the stuff is heartbreaking in how bad they had it. It's supposed to be based on David Simon experience as a reporter in Baltimore. And there are white trash kids growing up in trailer parks with meth head parents who have it just as bad. I think as a trend though smart people do better in school.

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    Do you take that same stance with black voters who will vote based on skin color?
    I'm not aware of a mainstream black candidate running on a message of keeping other racial and ethnic groups out of the country, or bemoaning the crime rates of non-black Americans. Blacks generally vote en masse for Democrats, and black political candidates are generally Democrat. But sure, I suppose blacks who vote for someone based on skin color without regard to their political position would probably also be on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum.

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    Did Obama not do great with the high school drop-out class?

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    I'm not aware of a mainstream black candidate running on a message of keeping other racial and ethnic groups out of the country.
    Are Muslims an ethnic group?
    Are illegal border crossers an ethnic group?

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    Huh? It represents his voting performance among Republicans in the primaries based on education levels.

    Like I stated in I think the next post I made maybe I got a little condescending here itt at times
    . But I do think without a doubt a lot of education achievement is based on intelligence. Also think Trump's policies in a lot if areas jive well with uneducated bigoted people's simplistic worldviews and solutions to problems
    no, it doesnt. the atlantic article you posted links to the source of the graph...

    http://www.hamiltonproject.org/asset...13_FINAL_1.pdf




    and this is the context in which the atlantic article posted it


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    The chart which showed Trumps performance among GOP primary based on education levels.
    The same article draws this conclusion:

    "But voters who agreed with the statement “people like me don't have any say about what the government does” were 86.5 percent more likely to prefer Trump. This feeling of powerlessness and voicelessness was a much better predictor of Trump support than age, race, college attainment, income, at udes towards Muslims, illegal immigrants, or Hispanic iden y."

    People who feel hopeless were susceptible to being coerced into hoping for anything to change in their favor. People without college degrees are more likely to feel disconnected from "hope" than those with degrees, because gainful employment is harder to come by. It's not because they are stupid or white trash.

    The concept seems easy to grasp once you change the skin color to black.


    I agree with this to an extent. If you watch that season of the Wire with all the black kids like some of the stuff is heartbreaking in how bad they had it. It's supposed to be based on David Simon experience as a reporter in Baltimore. And there are white trash kids growing up in trailer parks with meth head parents who have it just as bad. I think as a trend though smart people do better in school.[/QUOTE]

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    Ooof that's embarrassing

    Still says this though

    “For every 1 percentage point more college graduates over the age of 25, Donald Trump's share of votes falls by 0.65 percentage points,” he said. "

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    I'm not aware of a mainstream black candidate running on a message of keeping other racial and ethnic groups out of the country, or bemoaning the crime rates of non-black Americans. Blacks generally vote en masse for Democrats, and black political candidates are generally Democrat. But sure, I suppose blacks who vote for someone based on skin color without regard to their political position would probably also be on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum.
    Red herring.

    Do you consider blacks who only vote for a person because of the color of their skin, who concern themselves with mainly black issues, to be tribal and therefore on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum?

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    Ooof that's embarrassing

    Still says this though

    For every 1 percentage point more college graduates over the age of 25, Donald Trump's share of votes falls by 0.65 percentage points,” he said. "
    Because of what I mentioned. Cause vs correlation. The fact they do not have higher education is a large reason why they feel hopeless.

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    no, it doesnt. the atlantic article you posted links to the source of the graph...

    http://www.hamiltonproject.org/asset...13_FINAL_1.pdf




    and this is the context in which the atlantic article posted it

    Yeah, like I said in my last post I misread this completely lol. Curious if I can find the actual numbers in those groups elsewhere. Now that I think about it The GOP field was so fractured with everyone refusing to drop out I don't think the numbers would correlate in a simple yes/no for Trump since guys refuse to drop out and the vote was split like three to four ways most of the time

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    Red herring.

    Do you consider blacks who only vote for a person because of the color of their skin, who concern themselves with mainly black issues, to be tribal and therefore on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum?
    voting for someone because of the color of their skin is not the same as concerning themselves with mainly black issues

    if a black person votes for someone only because the candidate is black, then yeah, probably lower on the intelligence spectrum

    if a black person concerns himself with mainly black issues, then that's good sense. i would always concern myself with issues that affect me, directly

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    Truthfully I like idea of analyzing this by just limiting it the Republican primary since Republicans have built this delusional world where they lose all the college educated votes because the college voters are brainwashed into liberalism. If you limit it to Republicans then you don't have to worry about that.

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    voting for someone because of the color of their skin is not the same as concerning themselves with mainly black issues

    if a black person votes for someone only because the candidate is black, then yeah, probably lower on the intelligence spectrum

    if a black person concerns himself with mainly black issues, then that's good sense. i would always concern myself with issues that affect me, directly
    Love watching you to talk yourself into justifying racist voting.
    Truth is you wouldn't be for this bull if you subs uted white for black in everything you just said.
    Today's chump lite

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    voting for someone because of the color of their skin is not the same as concerning themselves with mainly black issues

    if a black person votes for someone only because the candidate is black, then yeah, probably lower on the intelligence spectrum

    if a black person concerns himself with mainly black issues, then that's good sense. i would always concern myself with issues that affect me, directly
    Stick to context.

    "Tribalism is the state of being organized in or an advocate for a tribe or tribes. In terms of conformity, tribalism may also refer in popular cultural terms to a way of thinking or behaving in which people are loyal to their own tribe or social group."

    Does this describe blacks, BET, NAACP, BLM, etc..?

    The question wasn't asked in a vacuum, which is why these tangents appear when someone other than the person asked tries to answer.

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    Truthfully I like idea of analyzing this by just limiting it the Republican primary since Republicans have built this delusional world where they lose all the college educated votes because the college voters are brainwashed into liberalism. If you limit it to Republicans then you don't have to worry about that.
    Limiting it to whatever makes you feel more right is your prerogative, but it doesn't make you right.

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