15:17 To Paris

[Spurtacular]

Are Muslims an ethnic group?
Are illegal border crossers an ethnic group?

Spurminator

[Quadzilla99]

Love watching you to talk yourself into justifying racist voting.
Truth is you wouldn't be for this bull if you subs uted white for black in everything you just said.
Today's chump lite

Blacks don't vote for black Republicans so this doesn't make much sense.

http://www.thestate.com/news/politic...e13900028.html

Republicans lose every single minority group like every single one and it's the minority groups fault for not voting for them.

[Spurtacular]

Blacks don't vote for black Republicans so this doesn't make much sense.

http://www.thestate.com/news/politic...e13900028.html

Republicans lose every single minority group like every single one and it's the minority groups fault for not voting for them.

Tribal politics, bruh. Who's handing out the money?

[Quadzilla99]

Like they even lose Asians lol

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/18/52437...t-polls-showed

I've yet to hear why Asians are stupid and brainwashed and vote for democrats

[Spurtacular]

Like they even lose Asians lol

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/18/52437...t-polls-showed

I've yet to hear why Asians are stupid and brainwashed and vote for democrats

Go ahead and tell us why Asians are voting Democrat.

[Quadzilla99]

Tribal politics, bruh. Who's handing out the money?

Who's handing out money to the Asians?

The highest earning group in the entire country even more than whites

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...sehold-income/

They have the highest levels of Education

https://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-...up-in-america/

And they vote overwhelmingly Democrat

[Pavlov]

Tribal politics, bruh. Who's handing out the money?

The Asians!

[Quadzilla99]

I don't think they commit much crime either I don't have stats but I'm pretty sure they don't. So all the complaints you guys have about the other races don't apply there

[Spurtacular]

Who's handing out money to the Asians?

The highest earning group in the entire country even more than whites

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...sehold-income/

They have the highest levels of Education

https://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-...up-in-america/

And they vote overwhelmingly Democrat

So, why are Asians voting Democrat?

[Quadzilla99]

Go ahead and tell us why Asians are voting Democrat.

Instead how about you tell us why Republicans can't win any group but white people. literally no one but white people will vote for republicans. And every single one of the minority groups its their fault they don't vote Republican. But you guys don't need to make any adjustments it's all the Asians, Mexicans, Muslims, Black's, Native Americans, et cetera et cetera fault they don't vote for you. Because they are brainwashed

[Quadzilla99]

Forget about blacks and everyone else voting tribally white people generally always vote Republican and no one gives them any about it. Even in Virginia where Northam beat Gillespie by like 10 points he still lost Whites by 17 points. It's not overwhelming like it is with blacks and Democrats and Asians and Democrats but it's still a huge trend. Even in 2008 I'll bet Obama lost whites handily even while winning a relative landslide.

in Alabama they ran a child molester and still won the white vote by like 50 points

[Quadzilla99]

Literally the only group Republicans can win is white people and they win them even when they run horrible candidates and lose the overall election and no one gives them any at all about it

[Spurtacular]

Instead how about you tell us why Republicans can't win any group but white people. literally no one but white people will vote for republicans. And every single one of the minority groups its their fault they don't vote Republican. But you guys don't need to make any adjustments it's all the Asians, Mexicans, Muslims, Black's, Native Americans, et cetera et cetera fault they don't vote for you. Because they are brainwashed

Can't explain your anomaly? Maybe they are brainwashed unless you have a good reason for it.

[DMC]

Literally the only group Republicans can win is white people and they win them even when they run horrible candidates and lose the overall election and no one gives them any at all about it

As recently as 2012, studies show that 47 percent of blacks identify as liberal and 45 percent as conservative, but 93 percent voted for the reelection of Barack Obama.

Tribalism?

Why won't any of you answer this? Spurminator abandoned that claim but quick.

[Quadzilla99]

As recently as 2012, studies show that 47 percent of blacks identify as liberal and 45 percent as conservative, but 93 percent voted for the reelection of Barack Obama.

Tribalism?

Why won't any of you answer this? Spurminator abandoned that claim but quick.

Maybe that's true then but it's also true to a lesser degree for whites.

[baseline bum]

Forget about blacks and everyone else voting tribally white people generally always vote Republican and no one gives them any about it. Even in Virginia where Northam beat Gillespie by like 10 points he still lost Whites by 17 points. It's not overwhelming like it is with blacks and Democrats and Asians and Democrats but it's still a huge trend. Even in 2008 I'll bet Obama lost whites handily even while winning a relative landslide.

in Alabama they ran a child molester and still won the white vote by like 50 points

McCain 56-44 not counting Mexicans

http://news.gallup.com/poll/112132/e...oups-2008.aspx

[Spurminator]

Red herring.

Do you consider blacks who only vote for a person because of the color of their skin, who concern themselves with mainly black issues, to be tribal and therefore on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum?

Depends on the "black issue." If the issue is keeping non-black races from infiltrating their culture, taking their jobs, coming into the country, etc., then yes, I would consider those people to be dumb.

You can't redefine Trumpist nationalism and then call it a red herring when I don't play along.

[Spurminator]

As recently as 2012, studies show that 47 percent of blacks identify as liberal and 45 percent as conservative, but 93 percent voted for the reelection of Barack Obama.

Tribalism?

Why don't you post the numbers who identify as Democrat? Why is Barack Obama the only example you provide for someone black people voted overwhelmingly for?

Such intellectual dishonesty...

Why won't any of you answer this? Spurminator abandoned that claim but quick.

I don't post on ST while I'm driving. Have some patience.

[DMC]

Depends on the "black issue." If the issue is keeping non-black races from infiltrating their culture, taking their jobs, coming into the country, etc., then yes, I would consider those people to be dumb.

You can't redefine Trumpist nationalism and then call it a red herring when I don't play along.

Can you provide a definition of "tribalism" that stipulates the things you said (in bold)?

[Chucho]

Totally irrelevant, but funny to this pitty-patter party...I know maybe ten, 15 educated blacks, most here in California, but some back home...all lean Right. I know thrice as many "the man be holding me down" echo chamber blacks, almost all lean Left.

Not an indication or anything to stereotype on, but fwiw I guess.

[DMC]

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Why don't you post the numbers who identify as Democrat? Why is Barack Obama the only example you provide for someone black people voted overwhelmingly for?

Because he was the only black president?

Such intellectual dishonesty...



I don't post on ST while I'm driving. Have some patience.

"There are two explanations for this incongruence. The first centers on racial unity: Black voters use the group’s well-being as a proxy for their own interests; the “black utility heuristic.” Other studies suggest racial iden y and social pressure shape blacks into an electoral monolith. The idea is that blacks vote similarly as a show of solidarity." -Washington Post

"Tribalism is the state of being organized in or an advocate for a tribe or tribes. In terms of conformity, tribalism may also refer in popular cultural terms to a way of thinking or behaving in which people are loyal to their own tribe or social group.[1]" - Wiki


So you still want to stick with that very convenient, cherry picked, narrow ass defintion of "tribalism", basically that it only applies to white people (the least monolithic voter base)?

Try again

[DMC]

McCain 56-44 not counting Mexicans

http://news.gallup.com/poll/112132/e...oups-2008.aspx

Black

99 - 1

[Spurminator]

Can you provide a definition of "tribalism" that stipulates the things you said (in bold)?

Those are very specific tribalist views that are not likely to be specifically called out in any definition of tribalism. In the context of a discussion about Trump tribalism, they are apt. But go ahead and see how interested I am in a semantic discussion of what tribalism means to you.

[DMC]

Those are very specific tribalist views that are not likely to be specifically called out in any definition of tribalism. In the context of a discussion about Trump tribalism, they are apt. But go ahead and see how interested I am in a semantic discussion of what tribalism means to you.

You tried the faux intellectualism and made that silly ass remark about tribalism. Now you say there is no definition for it, so it's Spurminator's version of tribalism that indicates low intelligence, which just happens to be whatever is convenient for the discussion. It's obvious you aren't interested in backing up your statement.

Thanks for clearing it up.

[Spurminator]

Because he was the only black president?

How do white Democrats typically fare with the black vote? How did Tim Scott do in South Carolina?

So you still want to stick with that very convenient, cherry picked, narrow ass defintion of "tribalism", basically that it only applies to white people (the least monolithic voter base)?

I didn't say it only applies to white people. There are absolutely tribalist blacks who are unintelligent. You're equating blacks voting along Democrat party lines with tribalism, and you're trying to validate your own feelings about black voters through me. Not gonna work, sucka.