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He's got a lot of potential. Offensively, he needs to study the out of Tony and his finishing around the rim. He brings the defender back into the play by not finishing off the opposite foot with his long arms and exaggerated motion.
Pop was much tougher on Parker than he has been on Murray. And Manu wasn't some young inexperienced rookie, he knew he had some game already.
Kobe, who knows, probably wouldn't have liked tough coaching as an 18-19 yr old but never know. Those guys all had some solid fundamental skills and didn't rely on size/athleticism.
He's got a lot of potential. Offensively, he needs to study the out of Tony and his finishing around the rim. He brings the defender back into the play by not finishing off the opposite foot with his long arms and exaggerated motion.
Lol. Wut
How does that help? Layups are the only thing he can do. He cant dribble and plays out of control. Does he have potential, yep. But so does anyone getting minutes
Murray
I don't believe that and I have been critical of Pop in the past. Dejounte's handles and shooting are the exact same from last year. It looks like he didn't work on anything at all during the summertime. Coaches see those things. Dejounte jump shot looks exactly the same from last year.
Your right and that is the reason that Pop gave Forbes more minutes because u could tell he worked really hard this past summer. Pop making his point by saying that is what happens if u put the work in. Murray is still young and can still get better he just has to put in the work.
Parker couldn't hit a jumper for at least 6 years. He still took the starting reigns as a rookie.
Yeah but he could make a layup and didn't turn the ball over like a child playing against adults.
I posted this clip in another thread but I'm going to post it here to. Notice in this clip rookie Parker is hitting jump shots all over the place. Parker wasn't a great jump shooter as a rookie but neither was he ty. He had a decent shot. Also go to the 24 second mark to see hot great Parker's footwork was. Watch at 1:54 how Parker can score a layup in traffic against 3 defenders. The Murray-Parker comparisons need to stop. Parker as rookie was much more developed than Murray. He had better ball handling skills, footwork, finishing abilities. If Murray could do the things rookie Parker is doing in this clip he would be getting tons of minutes.
I am far from being a Parker fan but your message is dead on. TP was the weakest of the "Big 3" and owed a lot of his success to them and the role players who covered for his ass when he came up short in big moments. However, at 19, he was miles ahead of where Murray's game is. He didn't rebound as well but he did everything else much, much better. Parker was one of the best players I had ever seen at getting layups.
Murray? C'mon bruh. Dude tries to shoot floaters from jump shot distances. His game is .
Yep, that drives me insane. And yes, I thought Parker was much, much better as a rookie than Murray is now. I also thought his jump shot was better too.
Having said all that, I liked the way Murray played last night. I thought he had a good game and really helped the Spurs win that game in the 4th quarter. He may have made a few mistakes, but he contributed to the win. He's also got much more defensive potential than nearly any other PG on the Spurs roster. The other PGs in the rotation are getting torched on the defensive end of the court and that's really hurting the Spurs a lot. Their offense doesn't outweigh how bad they are on defense, and they can't match many of their counterparts (especially elite PGs) on offense enough to cancel out how much they'd give up to them on the defensive end. How in the heck are the Spurs going to survive in the playoffs with PG defense that bad?
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TP's rookie playoffs vs Payton showed flashes of whats to come but Parker was pure speed his first couple of seasons and relied on that "tear drop" when he got into the lane the majority of the time.
it wasn't till around his 4th & 5th season he was elite in the paint and able to get right to the rim and wrong foot defenders. In his prime TP had a higher fg% then most elite bigs from memory
i'm not convinced DJ is a point guard and his r&r play is bad but he brings much needed athleticism and has the tools to be an good/elite defender & rebounder for his position.
i look at him as a combo guard and that high dribble doesn't bother me because he doesn't need a screen to score.....i just wish he would have some more chances to freelance so we can really see if he has any legit iso potential.
Ya Murray's shooting form has gone backwards, from last season which wasnt great to begin with.
Like the others said , he shooting floaters on shots that require a simple jumpshot & he getting blocked on lay ups. Needs to learn off tp on how to use his body. Reckon the only reason pop playing him is for defensive reasons . Those mins will disappear once everyone is healthy so it ain looking good for Dj this season
That's what's confusing about pop... He says you don't play defense, you don't play... But our best defensive PG with a lot of upside struggles to get minutes... You won't learn to play the NBA game looking from the bench...
That's under the assumption that they are at least contributing on the offensive end... i.e. the Marco Bellineli, Gary Neal, Mason Jr. types... There are spurts where Murray is completely lost on the offensive side of the ball...
ty take, tbh.
I know, thats why i asked you how does that help.
ty take: Part Deaux.
All Tholdren does is put up ty takes...tbqh
Murray with another good game...
Some guys learn in training. Some guys learn on the job.
Bottom line. Let the kid play.
Trade for Gonzo Bell and let Lamar take the coaching reigns
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