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    If Kawhi goes down again(this season) he's "injury prone"

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    I'm starting to believe the Kawhi for Porzingas talk actually happened. Not that is was ever really going to happen, but maybe the Spurs saw this coming.

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    Lots of non logic from people on here and Ice has been one of them lately. Have you seen his embarrassing in game meltdowns? Good grief.
    I seriously don't get the expectations of folks on here sometimes. Like he's not immediately dominating after that crazy long lay-off/recovery process? Blasphemy!

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    You guys will all regret these cruel words to Pop when the Klaw is 44 and still putting up 6 points and 2 rebounds!

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    His first game he actually looked good, like he hadn't missed a beat. But did you really expect no rust/sluggishness? It was his 3rd game in 7 months without playing any real compe ive ball in between.

    No pre season , no training camp, no meaningful 5 on 5's, etc...
    I expected rust, but I didn't expect him to look this out of it where he can't even play 15 minutes without looking gassed.
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    Looks like a complete shadow of the player Pop touted as the best in the league after the Memphis series.

    This where you see how Kawhi is not among the supremely innately talented superstars of his and past generations. He is a man of habit and a product of an otherworldly work ethics, and what has brought him here is a mechanical repe ion of gradually acquired skills throughout the years..

    His increasingly brittle health is now the biggest obstacle to his rise toward HOF greatness..

    It is early, but I’m getting nervous.
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    You guys will all regret these cruel words to Pop when the Klaw is 44 and still putting up 6 points and 2 rebounds!

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    he probably should not play more right now ... he is moving slower than Kyle and cannot get by anybody while TP and Manu did layup drills against the Clips ... he is argueing calls and does not get back on defense
    Noticed that too.
    Tony returned from a completely ruptured quad tendon at 10 years older and was looking like he didn’t miss a beat. Not sure if it’s conditioning. Tony reportedly rehabbed like a madman and was doing scrimmages with the d’league team for weeks etc. It’s possible Tony was more ready conditioning wise to return. Weird.

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    Noticed that too.
    Tony returned from a completely ruptured quad tendon at 10 years older and was looking like he didn’t miss a beat. Not sure if it’s conditioning. Tony reportedly rehabbed like a madman and was doing scrimmages with the d’league team for weeks etc. It’s possible Tony was more ready conditioning wise to return. Weird.
    Different body types. And it has to do with circulation. A shorter player usually has much better circulation than a taller player. And circulation is key in the healing process.

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    Wow. This thread is full of re s.

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    It is early, but I’m getting nervous.
    If it’s conditioning and stamina it’s going to take time.
    Just a month or so ago he looked 70 years old limping climbing some stairs. While he was in that state, Tony was already schooling guys in the dleague scrimmaging 5-5. I tend to think even as Kawhi took longer to rehab he also had less time to really be in his optimal shape whereas Tony apparently was already playing basketball since preseason with the Austin Toros and he appeared to take his time to be in top shape.

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    Wow. This thread is full of re s.
    Build the wall

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    I expected rust, but I didn't expect him to look this out of it where he can't even play 15 minutes without looking gassed.
    Being gassed was def to be expected tho, even more so than basketball stuff being off, mainly because he could probably still shoot a little while he was out. That motor doesn't just get started with that long a layoff tho. Give him at least a month to get it back. These guys get training camp/pre-season to get their wind back before the season starts. Just gotta think of this first month or so of Kawhi is basically Sept/Oct. Its just happening in Dec/Jan.

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    If it’s conditioning and stamina it’s going to take time.
    Just a month or so ago he looked 70 years old limping climbing some stairs. While he was in that state, Tony was already schooling guys in the dleague scrimmaging 5-5. I tend to think even as Kawhi took longer to rehab he also had less time to really be in his optimal shape whereas Tony apparently was already playing basketball since preseason with the Austin Toros and he appeared to take his time to be in top shape.
    Still I don’t think it is arguable anymore that, when it comes to the health package—reliability and availability—Kawhi is a tier below the Big 3..

    Parker who entered the league a decade before him; played more minutes on aggregate and went deeper in the playoffs for years in 2000s; took all the pounding from the bigs of that eras; and ruptured the same body part at which Kawhi is only suffering few spasms, and he is looking far more spry and in-shape than him..

    Now I understand why Pop looked puzzled and frustrated by the whole thing. He was being honest when he said doesn’t know what’s really up with him..He must be telling to himself: "After all the babying, what can i do more to him?"

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    I'm going to wait a month before I have any concerns about his recovery. If he's still sucking in a month around mid to late January then it will be troubling.

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    Looks like a complete shadow of the player Pop touted as the best in the league after the Memphis series.

    This where you see how Kawhi is not among the supremely innately talented superstars of his and past generations. He is a man of habit and a product of an otherworldly work ethics, and what has brought him here is a mechanical repe ion of gradually acquired skills throughout the years..

    His increasingly brittle health is now the biggest obstacle to his rise toward HOF greatness..

    It is early, but I’m getting nervous.
    like Cristiano Ronaldo, which does not stop him from being on the list with Pele, Messi and Maradona as one of the greatest footballers in history

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    You guys will all regret these cruel words to Pop when the Klaw is 44 and still putting up 6 points and 2 rebounds!

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    Wow. This site is full of re s.
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    This where you see how Kawhi is not among the supremely innately talented superstars of his and past generations. He is a man of habit and a product of an otherworldly work ethics, and what has brought him here is a mechanical repe ion of gradually acquired skills throughout the years..
    “There's no talent here, this is hard work. This is an obsession. Talent does not exist, we are all equal as human beings. You could be anyone if you put in the time. You will reach the top, and that is that. I am not talented, I am obsessed.”
    — Conor McGregor

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    Kawhi is going to take time to reach peak form.


    He's lucky the Spurs have a good team that has taken care of business so that this isn't a lost season. At some point in the future they will be formidable.

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    Kawhi is going to take time to reach peak form.


    He's lucky the Spurs have a good team that has taken care of business so that this isn't a lost season. At some point in the future they will be formidable.
    Kawhi is so lucky.

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    All these guys on suicidal mode when they read that Kawhi won't play tomorrow.

    "He re-injured his quad !!!" "Career ending injury !!!"

    Or just B2B against Blazers-Jazz

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    Pop is the typical liberal, tbh... instead of telling Kawhi to strap on his boots and earn his money, he’s basically creating another en led welfare queen, tbh..

    We’re fortunate Duncan was your typical conservative when it comes to work ethic and being a winner...
    Yeah those islanders are very conservative. Can we build a wall around an island?

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    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/a...es-for-rhythm/


    I agree with this Spurs hater in some things.

    -Kawhi's elevation doesn't look the same which is expectable at this point of his recovery

    -He didnt lose confidence on the offensive end and his defense seems still intact.

    "Leonard doesn't have to be great for a while, but at this point, Kawhi is like pizza. Even not-great Kawhi is still pretty great. "
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    41 year old Duncan would probably play more minutes. He played more minutes with no knee cartilage at age 40.

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