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    There were also issues in OKC which kinda pointed to possible sharing issues. Things were a bit less settled about Westbrook being the culprit of the inability to play well with others before this season. I do have to say that I am a bit surprised at how pedestrian George looks with OKC.
    George is biding time until he moves to the coast. He doesn't want to risk injury on a team that isn't a real le contender.

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    Spurs are standing pat. The healthier and better Tony and Manu look, coupled with Dijon's improvement and their confidence in Forbes, they are sticking with this group....

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    Spurs are standing pat. The healthier and better Tony and Manu look, coupled with Dijon's improvement and their confidence in Forbes, they are sticking with this group....
    Even in the frontcourt, too. Joff is starting to show a little of what he flashed before his injury. Pop will go with these guys.

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    Even in the frontcourt, too. Joff is starting to show a little of what he flashed before his injury. Pop will go with these guys.
    Yeah... and they still aren't fully healthy. It's a matter of continuing to get better for the young guys, and staying healthy for everyone from now on. I wasn't convinced by Joff but for his role he's fine.

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    At anyone who didn't think Paul would make the Rockets markedly better. People overthink this league. Elite talent finds a way, even if there's positional (Duncan and Robinson) or stylistic (James and Wade) overlap, too much ego (O'Neal and Bryant) or you supposedly had to sacrifice a lot to acquire it (Durant). Shooting also solves a lot of things, as does an age gap, which generally makes one more deferential to the other.

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    At anyone who didn't think Paul would make the Rockets markedly better. People overthink this league. Elite talent finds a way, even if there's positional (Duncan and Robinson) or stylistic (James and Wade) overlap, too much ego (O'Neal and Bryant) or you supposedly had to sacrifice a lot to acquire it (Durant). Shooting also solves a lot of things, as does an age gap, which generally makes one more deferential to the other.
    How about the Thunder?

    Rockets are in another world when it comes to offense with CP3. I cringe when I see Pop calling 4 down for Pau or LA early in the shot clock, like he did against the Rockets last Friday. Worst type of scheme Pop should draw up-- it actually hurts the team more than helps.

    For as good as LaMarcus has been this season overall, he's still shooting a terrible 41% in post ups this year in 196 attempts (which is worse than last year). And Pau? He's shooting 36% in post ups this year in 96 attempts. It's baffling to me how Pop continues to go to them in the post to initiate offense.

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    The Thunder are starting to play better, tbh.Meanwhile, the Rockets will continue to improve.

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    The Thunder are starting to play better, tbh.Meanwhile, the Rockets will continue to improve.
    talent >>>>

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    The rockets used a 7 man rotation their last game. They are playing like if the playoffs started. They are playing on gear 2 at minimum. Not good for the long run.

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    The Thunder are starting to play better
    No they're not.

    They are barely squeaking out wins against poor teams. Fans like you are just results oriented (see wins and losses) and don't watch games.

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    The rockets used a 7 man rotation their last game. They are playing like if the playoffs started. They are playing on gear 2 at minimum. Not good for the long run.
    Hoping they are this year's 2011 Spurs.

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    Hoping they are this year's 2011 Spurs.
    That Spurs was good. ing manu just got a freak accident on the last games of the season. And we lose the first game. Then he comes back and we win our home games and they win their home games. The team was in retrospect, but I still thought they were better than the grizz for sure, even if we lost to them in the RS.

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    That Spurs was good. ing manu just got a freak accident on the last games of the season. And we lose the first game. Then he comes back and we win our home games and they win their home games. The team was in retrospect, but I still thought they were better than the grizz for sure, even if we lost to them in the RS.
    I bring up 2011 because the Spurs peaked early that season like Houston is. Meanwhile the defending champions are 2nd place and the Spurs are 3rd. And we know what the 3rd place Mavs did that season.

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    How about the Thunder?

    Rockets are in another world when it comes to offense with CP3. I cringe when I see Pop calling 4 down for Pau or LA early in the shot clock, like he did against the Rockets last Friday. Worst type of scheme Pop should draw up-- it actually hurts the team more than helps.

    For as good as LaMarcus has been this season overall, he's still shooting a terrible 41% in post ups this year in 196 attempts (which is worse than last year). And Pau? He's shooting 36% in post ups this year in 96 attempts. It's baffling to me how Pop continues to go to them in the post to initiate offense.
    Thanks for posting the percentages. They certainly confirm my eye test.

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    That Spurs was good. ing manu just got a freak accident on the last games of the season. And we lose the first game. Then he comes back and we win our home games and they win their home games. The team was in retrospect, but I still thought they were better than the grizz for sure, even if we lost to them in the RS.
    Exactly right. Manu's freak injury killed us. Without that injury we beat the Grizz, which was our toughest matchup. Then we had an excellent chance to ring. The Mavs rang precisely because they didn't have to play us.

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    No they're not.

    They are barely squeaking out wins against poor teams. Fans like you are just results oriented (see wins and losses) and don't watch games.
    Jesus. And here I thought you were one of the posters that I agreed with generally more than others on this site. Guess you find yourself disagreeing with me more than I would have thought. That, or you're confusing me with someone else, or maybe just have a stick up your ass today.

    Squeaking out wins against playoff teams is better than choking away wins to teams like Sacramento towards a below .500 record and not making the playoffs. Right now, they're back in the playoff mix. They're slowly getting better. , they just beat Denver without Steven Adams who has arguably been their most important player lately.

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    Jesus. And here I thought you were one of the posters that I agreed with generally more than others on this site. Guess you find yourself disagreeing with me more than I would have thought. That, or you're confusing me with someone else, or maybe just have a stick up your ass today.

    Squeaking out wins against playoff teams is better than choking away wins to teams like Sacramento towards a below .500 record and not making the playoffs. Right now, they're back in the playoff mix. They're slowly getting better. , they just beat Denver without Steven Adams who has arguably been their most important player lately.
    Russ, Melo and PG have all been playing worse than they did the first 6 weeks of the season. They aren't playing better. They've gotten very lucky to win the games they've won lately.

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    Thanks for posting the percentages. They certainly confirm my eye test.
    No problem. There's people on this board who still think this is a strength of the team. Couldn't be further from the truth.

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    How about the Thunder?

    Rockets are in another world when it comes to offense with CP3. I cringe when I see Pop calling 4 down for Pau or LA early in the shot clock, like he did against the Rockets last Friday. Worst type of scheme Pop should draw up-- it actually hurts the team more than helps.

    For as good as LaMarcus has been this season overall, he's still shooting a terrible 41% in post ups this year in 196 attempts (which is worse than last year). And Pau? He's shooting 36% in post ups this year in 96 attempts. It's baffling to me how Pop continues to go to them in the post to initiate offense.
    My examples featured two MVP caliber players. Thunder have one and he's the most erratic, lowest basketball IQ one I've ever seen.

    A lot of times it's by default; the result of having no one who can break down the defense on the perimeter. It's either that or a steady diet of P-n-R's and DHOs that mostly go nowhere. This is why they should have been in on Bledsoe and why they should be on the trail of Walker now.

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    A lot of times it's by default; the result of having no one who can break down the defense on the perimeter. It's either that or a steady diet of P-n-R's and DHOs that mostly go nowhere. This is why they should have been in on Bledsoe and why they should be on the trail of Walker now.
    They chose to pay a player 50 million to have 134 PnR ball handler possessions 30 games in -- who shoots 35%, gets to the line 4% of the time, and turns it over 13.4% of the time in these PnR ball handler scenarios.

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    No problem. There's people on this board who still think this is a strength of the team. Couldn't be further from the truth.
    LMA was never inclined to be strong in the post. He has a game every once in a while where he is strong going to the hole, but most of the time he goes that little man fade-away. He has never been a strong post player, and he is not likely to change his spots.

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    They chose to pay a player 50 million to have 134 PnR ball handler possessions 30 games in -- who shoots 35%, gets to the line 4% of the time, and turns it over 13.4% of the time in these PnR ball handler scenarios.
    They should be working the back channels on Walker; he's a free agent at the end of next season. His situation is similar to Conley's and Holiday's, in that they're probably unwilling to trade him and willing to pay him damn near anything.

    If they can sell him, he can request a trade through his representative(s), dissuade others (namely, Nuggets) from trading for him and maybe force their hands into trading him for Mills, Murray, 1st. That way Spurs would have his Bird rights, so he could still get a 5 year contract.

    To be clear, I don't think for a second that this will actually happen. Can't see them relegating Parker to backup status and trading Mills for anything short of a prime future Hall-of-Famer, which is obviously unattainable. They're inexplicably content staking their chance of vaulting back into championship contention in the near future on Murray becoming an All-Star and doing so before Aldridge is no longer one.

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    Welp, looks like his knee asploded.

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    Welp, looks like his knee asploded.
    Injury prone, his age and the megamax deal are the reasons I doubted he would have been worth it for the Spurs. To be fair to him, Pop wouldn't be playing him on shortened 8 men rotations in the regular season and he's be on Pop's super careful rest/injury management schedule.

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    Welp, looks like his knee asploded.
    Adductor strain

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