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    No one was saying that last playoffs.

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    Kawhi/LMA need to figure out how to play together at some point, Pick and Pops/Rolls, whatever. It's a simple game
    Kawhi/LMA have to...? That is Pop's job.

    This season is LMA's 3rd year as Spur and the plays for him and Kawhi are almost the same..Nothing changed in these three years.

    Now some people here want Kawhi/LMA take turns on offense/on court instead of making both players work together...

    Sounds a bit crazy how Pop has been reluctant to involve these two guys in plays..

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    Kawhi/LMA have to...? That is Pop's job.

    This season is LMA's 3rd year as Spur and the plays for him and Kawhi are almost the same..Nothing changed in these three years.

    Now some people here want Kawhi/LMA take turns on offense/on court instead of making both players work together.

    Sounds a bit crazy how Pop has been reluctant to involve these two guys in plays..
    It's on all parties, but Kawhi has to sometimes slow it down and look for other guys, and LMA has to be more assertive and aggressive.

    We don't know what plays Pop calls, but we do see sometimes Kawhi getting a little too selfish and LMA being passive and too unselfish. It's on the players too to figure it out, they're not some rookies who have no idea what they're doing.

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    Kawhi/LMA have to...? That is Pop's job.

    This season is LMA's 3rd year as Spur and the plays for him and Kawhi are almost the same..Nothing changed in these three years.

    Now some people here want Kawhi/LMA take turns on offense/on court instead of making both players work together...

    Sounds a bit crazy how Pop has been reluctant to involve these two guys in plays..
    Kl is a perimeter player who cant and doesnt make others better on offense. He needs to be the motor on defense, but since his return he is engaged half the time. Could be conditioning. Spurs cant have kl be the leading scorer and expect to ring, unless he is forcing tos and rebounding well enpugh to get others involved in transition. His approach to offense is terrible this year

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    We don't know what plays Pop calls
    But if most P&Rs involve one player with other player it's for design.

    If Pop would want these two guys play together he would call them out if they wouldn't do it.

    He has designed an offense where his two main scorers plays individually...

    "Give LMA the ball in the post, if he gets double-teamed then kick to the perimeter guy...Give Kawhi the ball if he can't get his shot, then kick to the perimeter guy"

    I didn't see interaction on court between these two...
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    Kl is a perimeter player who cant and doesnt make others better on offense. He needs to be the motor on defense.
    The Spurs looked fantastic in last two regular seasons with Kawhi as focal point of the offense. But of course, he should be just a defender...Ok.

    Spurs cant have kl be the leading scorer and expect to ring
    You make me laugh...Who would be the leading scorer in the playoffs? LMA? Pau? Parker?..You're a funny guy.

    His approach to offense is terrible this year
    His approach to offense is almost same that last season. The only difference this year is he's deferring and passing more

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    "But but my players didn't respect the rivals, didn't respect the game...This is how it looked to me after the 1st quarter..."


    I wonder how the best coach in the league couldn't adjust in the other 3 quarters


    Still wonder how the best coach in the world couldn't make that Parker-Manu together work in the SL...Almost the same with Kawhi-LMA now


    Imagine Phil benching Kobe for Shaq or vice versa...Kerr benching KD for Curry...


    It's like everything outside of 4-down it's too hard for Pop on these days.
    This Pop doesn't believe in adjustments. Doesn't believe in hot hands. Doesn't believe in a player's rhythm. Doesn't believe in anything over 35 minutes for one player. Doesn't believe set rotations. Doesn't believe a rook who can't start has any business playing any significant minutes in the POs until his third year. Doesn't believe he has to answer to anyone. Doesn't answer any legitimate basketball coaching questions. Doesn't believe basketball is important, even though the fans have made him a millionaire.

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    This Pop doesn't believe in adjustments. Doesn't believe in hot hands. Doesn't believe in a player's rhythm. Doesn't believe in anything over 35 minutes for one player. Doesn't believe set rotations. Doesn't believe a rook who can't start has any business playing any significant minutes in the POs until his third year. Doesn't believe he has to answer to anyone. Doesn't answer any legitimate basketball coaching questions. Doesn't believe basketball is important, even though the fans have made him a millionaire.
    You're right. I know he's the best but I have to admit I don't understand his decisions.

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    Manu running the plays from bench?

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    The Spurs looked fantastic in last two regular seasons with Kawhi as focal point of the offense. But of course, he should be just a defender...Ok.


    You make me laugh...Who would be the leading scorer in the playoffs? LMA? Pau? Parker?..You're a funny guy.


    His approach to offense is almost same that last season. The only difference this year is he's deferring and passing more
    Wut. Spurs just lost to detroit. Rookie kennard destroyed leonard

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    Wut. Spurs just lost to Detroit. Rookie kennard destroyed leonard
    Wut...LMA and Bryn took more shots than Kawhi and scored less points....But blame just Kawhi.

    Also, when you watch the game and realize Kennard wasn't Kawhi defensive assignment...

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    Against the small rockets and warriors start lma at center and pau off the bench, pau is too slow and doesn’t use his size on them

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    I prefer the guys sitting on the bench be tweaked. AKA Carlisle for Pop.

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    Wut...LMA and Bryn took more shots than Kawhi and scored less points....But blame just Kawhi.

    Also, when you watch the game and realize Kennard wasn't Kawhi defensive assignment...
    Leonard took fewer shots but he had 4 possessions that ended with him taking free throws and four more that ended in turnovers. Basketball Reference has Kawhi's usage rate as 32.2% while LMA was 25% and Forbes at 22%

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    Against the small rockets and warriors start lma at center and pau off the bench, pau is too slow and doesn’t use his size on them
    Pau can start against GSW but I would only play him the 1st five minutes of each half and then have him sub for LMA.

    He also did an excellent job protecting the basket against Houston in the 2nd round last year. But I generally agree.

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    I think Murray should be starting over Traffic Cone and Fatty Mills at least in grind-it-out road games like tonight at Detroit. But Poop knows best.

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    Wut...LMA and Bryn took more shots than Kawhi and scored less points....But blame just Kawhi.

    Also, when you watch the game and realize Kennard wasn't Kawhi defensive assignment...
    Kl high usage scorer. Turning into kobe. Shooting, losing, crying. Kennard was 20 times what leonard was

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    Imo the problem is our bench, i’m not a forbes fan and He plays too much right now, he can’t do Nothing but shoot the ball. You Also have lauvergne who is a liability on both end of the floor.

    Mills is inconsistent and we need another pg Who can take care off the ball. Murray needs To play more, at least he brings something different To the table.

    And you have To wait To have some chemistry between the starters, especially on offense.

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    Tired of midget on our team we need to get rid of Forbes and Mills they suck so bad on defense.
    agree

    in an era where a compe ive team needs to have the largest number of long and athletic players, where GSW puts a lineup with Klay / Dray / KD / Bell / Iggy at the same time, Pop continues to think undersized and one-dimensional players will do some thing in the playoffs

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    agree

    in an era where a compe ive team needs to have the largest number of long and athletic players, where GSW puts a lineup with Klay / Dray / KD / Bell / Iggy at the same time, Pop continues to think undersized and one-dimensional players will do some thing in the playoffs
    El-oh-el, it's just basketball.


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    There is no tweak that makes sense and the problems go beyond that. Their prioritizing of culture and loyalty over talent and disregard for the way the game has evolved post '14 are the issues. Instead of attempting to rectifying these issues, they waited until the bottom inevitably fell out offensively.

    Hopefully now people will give the post prime Duncan and Ginobili big 3 their proper due. The way they made it work offensively wasn't because of Pop's "system", it was because of their basketball IQ, compe iveness, talent and unselfishness. The fact that Leonard and Aldridge, with one less featured player mouth to feed, still look clueless playing together in their 3rd season, is proof of that.


    There really isn't any tweak that can be done with the SL at this point that can help. Moving Gasol to the bench only bogs down the offense more since they need his playmaking and adds another poor shooter in Kyle, and benching Porker puts in an even worse option since neither Mills or Murray can take care of the ball or run an offense. You could bench Kawhi but he's also the best bet for the SL to get back on track; him playing well makes the rest play well (or at least hide their poor play).

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    I'm not worried about the starting lineup. The rebounding goes to without PAu on it. I'm worried about those three guard lineups with Mills and Forbes in them. They suck hard at pnr defense and cannot rebound. Pulling Anderson a decent rebounder out of that unit makes it worse.

    Gay hasn't played well this month so losing him is a wash. Bertans needs more time at forward.

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    You can't beat the Warriors in the playoffs playing small.

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    yes.



    tony doesn't fit in the stating lineup with kawhi/la, doesn't fit off the bench with manu/gay/patty/kyle/murray.

    deandre would pair better with la than gasol and would pair better with gasol than la.

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    Just like you said Tony would never win a finals mvp

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