Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

Something tells me we'll never hear about FISA standards from TSA -- ever.

[TSA]

You just made a big deal out of the date. Downer IS the witness. Kensington Wine Room is the place. As for corroboration -- I guess you can wait for a guy convicted of lying to the FBI to refute it.

That's some pathetic when you try to adopt Spurtacular's Jedi mind trick tactic. You look it the up. It's not hard to find. Then you tell us how it fits your piss innuendo. You are all over this FISA stuff without the basic knowledge of how it works. You should fix that.

Jesus, dude. You won't commit to any theory since you have been burned so badly before. I understand that -- you looked like a complete idiot so many times -- but you can't deny the fact you are pushing the narrative that the Steele dossier got the FISA warrant as furiously as possible without actually committing to it because you are a coward.

That is your piss innuendo.

triggered

I already said I think the Steele dossier was used to secure the FISA warrant. You keep trying to push the false narrative that I think the Steele dossier was the sole factor in securing the FISA warrant. I don’t care if the Steele dossier was or wasn’t used for the FISA warrant. I’m more interested in Bruce and Nellie Ohr’s involvement with the Steele dossier. A top DOJ official intimately involved in the opposition research of a candidate is a much bigger story than the dossier itself.

[Pavlov]

triggered

I already said I think the Steele dossier was used to secure the FISA warrant. You keep trying to push the false narrative that I think the Steele dossier was the sole factor in securing the FISA warrant. I don’t care if the Steele dossier was or wasn’t used for the FISA warrant. I’m more interested in Bruce and Nellie Ohr’s involvement with the Steele dossier. A top DOJ official intimately involved in the opposition research of a candidate is a much bigger story than the dossier itself.

And yet, you won't look it up. And now you pretend it isn't important to you. After all your piss posts. This is the pattern with you.

Something tells me we'll never hear about FISA standards from TSA -- ever.

Yep.

[TSA]

And yet, you won't look it up. And now you pretend it isn't important to you. After all your piss posts. This is the pattern with you.

Yep.

I don’t need to look it up as it has no bearing on my thoughts the dossier was used to secure the warrant. Neither of us know if the dossier was or wasn’t used, the FBI/DOJ have been stonewalling Congress requests.

[Pavlov]

I don’t need to look it up as it has no bearing on my thoughts the dossier was used to secure the warrant. Neither of us know if the dossier was or wasn’t used, the FBI/DOJ have been stonewalling Congress requests.

You'd have a much more informed opinion on whether piss was used to get a FISA warrant if you knew all about how one is obtained. As it is, you don't.

You prefer innuendo. This is a pattern with you.

[djohn2oo8]

Damn. Pav skull ing Piss. Somebody needs to

[TSA]

You'd have a much more informed opinion on whether piss was used to get a FISA warrant if you knew all about how one is obtained. As it is, you don't.

You prefer innuendo. This is a pattern with you.

Again, neither of us know if the dossier was or wasn’t used, the FBI/DOJ have been stonewalling Congress requests. You seem to believe you are pretty well informed the process of obtaining a FISA warrant so explain why you think the Steele dossier could not have been presented to the FISC court.

[Pavlov]

Again, neither of us know if the dossier was or wasn’t used, the FBI/DOJ have been stonewalling Congress requests. You seem to believe you are pretty well informed the process of obtaining a FISA warrant so explain why you think the Steele dossier could not have been presented to the FISC court.

There's no indication any information in the dossier would be considered or was needed at all -- and if it was, there is much more valid information in the dossier than you would wish. FISA standards are higher than you wish them to be, and the process the FBI goes through to meet those standards is more stringent than you wish it to be. You seem to be completely ignorant about the process of obtaining a FISA warrant, so explain why anyone should take anything you have ever said about FISA warrants seriously?

[DarrinS]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politi...ier/index.html

"CNN has reported that US investigators have corroborated some aspects of the dossier though not some of the more salacious allegations. The FBI used some materials from the dossier in its successful request for a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to conduct surveillance on Trump associate Carter Page."

Fake?

[Chris]

[Pavlov]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politi...ier/index.html

"CNN has reported that US investigators have corroborated some aspects of the dossier though not some of the more salacious allegations. The FBI used some materials from the dossier in its successful request for a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to conduct surveillance on Trump associate Carter Page."

Fake?

There's no indication any information in the dossier would be considered or was needed at all -- and if it was, there is much more valid information in the dossier than you would wish. FISA standards are higher than you wish them to be, and the process the FBI goes through to meet those standards is more stringent than you wish it to be. You seem to be completely ignorant about the process of obtaining a FISA warrant, so explain why anyone should take anything you have ever said about FISA warrants seriously?

[djohn2oo8]

Again, neither of us know if the dossier was or wasn’t used, the FBI/DOJ have been stonewalling Congress requests. You seem to believe you are pretty well informed the process of obtaining a FISA warrant so explain why you think the Steele dossier could not have been presented to the FISC court.

It's an ongoing investigation. DOJ nor the FBI can release that information. Without proper subpoenas, which Nunes has apparently missed the memo. Next!

[djohn2oo8]

Btw, TSA, what is the procedure to get a FISA warrant?

[Pavlov]

It's an ongoing investigation. DOJ nor the FBI can release that information. Without proper subpoenas, which Nunes has apparently missed the memo. Next!

Yeah, why are board Republicans so hot to interfere with, let's just say obstruct -- an ongoing investigation? If Trump and Co. did nothing wrong, they'll be cleared.

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah, why are board Republicans so hot to interfere with, let's just say obstruct -- an ongoing investigation? If Trump and Co. did nothing wrong, they'll be cleared.

A bit su ious they claim the investigation to be a witch hunt before it's even over. A Nixonian move. But Hillary's investigation was a sham because they didn't find anything

Uranium One!!!!!!

[koriwhat]

[koriwhat]

A bit su ious they claim the investigation to be a witch hunt before it's even over. A Nixonian move. But Hillary's investigation was a sham because they didn't find anything

Uranium One!!!!!!

they found plenty but they're all the same investigating and ruining our country so of course they found "nothing" when it comes to HRC. stop for a second and think for a bit... take your ing emotions out of the process for once. she went against our laws but those in power let her and her cronies off because they are her cronies. it is what it is.

[Pavlov]

they found plenty but they're all the same investigating and ruining our country so of course they found "nothing" when it comes to HRC. stop for a second and think for a bit... take your ing emotions out of the process for once. she went against our laws but those in power let her and her cronies off because they are her cronies. it is what it is.

Which laws did she go against?

[koriwhat]

Which laws did she go against?

you can keep going in circles forever if you'd like but what she did with that server was illegal. no matter how you spin it it was illegal. she knew, her cast of heads knew, everyone involved knew or else they wouldn't destroy evidence etc...

stay in the dark forever pav. it doesn't matter to me whether or not you ever come into the light.

[Pavlov]

you can keep going in circles forever if you'd like but what she did with that server was illegal. no matter how you spin it it was illegal. she knew, her cast of heads knew, everyone involved knew or else they wouldn't destroy evidence etc...

stay in the dark forever pav. it doesn't matter to me whether or not you ever come into the light.

What did she do with that server?

[koriwhat]

What did she do with that server?

your line of questioning is re ed and akin to that of someone who thinks he sits at top of the mountain. sorry your candidate lost and rightfully so. boohoo! you know, like everyone else, that HRC and the last 30 yrs of our nation has been ran by those who want this country and world to fail. i only hope one day you wake the up already; not only you but the mentally weak far leftys of this world.

[Pavlov]

your line of questioning is re ed and akin to that of someone who thinks he sits at top of the mountain. sorry your candidate lost and rightfully so. boohoo! you know, like everyone else, that HRC and the last 30 yrs of our nation has been ran by those who want this country and world to fail. i only hope one day you wake the up already; not only you but the mentally weak far leftys of this world.

All you have to say is you don't know.

It's not a big deal.

[koriwhat]

All you have to say is you don't know.

It's not a big deal.

your reading comprehension is poor... 2 and 3 posts up i explained just 1% of HRC's bs. take HRC out of it and replace her with DJT and tell me again how no laws were broken. you're just bitter and that's the truth of it all; you and many others so bitter they can't cope with a man in office that didn't look towards the pedophiles of the ME to fund his campaign to the WH.

[Pavlov]

your reading comprehension is poor... 2 and 3 posts up i explained just 1% of HRC's bs. take HRC out of it and replace her with DJT and tell me again how no laws were broken. you're just bitter and that's the truth of it all; you and many others so bitter they can't cope with a man in office that didn't look towards the pedophiles of the ME to fund his campaign to the WH.

So what did she do with the server again?

[koriwhat]

So what did she do with the server again?

if you have to say "again", then obviously you already read what she did. stupid or just ignorant; both?