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That white guy for the Knicks got sent back to the 70s.
https://streamable.com/kigc0
Since when missing just 8 games is like missing 27 and the whole preseason??
Since when "didn't play a game in 7 months" is the same thing like "missed 3 weeks"??
Yeah...
That white guy for the Knicks got sent back to the 70s.
https://streamable.com/kigc0
Can't expect too much from a guy who can barely wipe his own ass yet.
To Stockton’s credit, he didn’t go ringchasing like Malone and Payton, tbh
I remember way back during the lockout season Curry looked like he was going to have a Grant Hill career. His numbers that year were solid but he was not even an all-star caliber player due to the ankle injuries he was suffering at the time. Not even supposedly his "natural talent" could get him to overcome his bad ankles. There was a lot of doubt back then within the Warriors organization that he would ever be able to play at a high level with his bad ankles and it's the reason why Curry had to settle for a contract that was way less than the max. Curry had to eventually get surgery on the ankles and then re-learn how to play and move without putting stress on his ankles.
Kawhi's injury is serious and rare. From what I have heard it could take several months to recover from it. Anybody with the same type of injury will have the same problems that Kawhi is having right now and "natural talent" is not going to help in this situation. I have already accepted that this could be a lost season and we might not see Kawhi playing at a high level until next season. I still hold out hope that he could be in top form within a few months but we'll see what happens.
Harden injured tonight in game versus the Lakers.
I watched that game. Lakers screwed around a lot of times in that game. They could have won the game in regulation and then in the 2 OTs if they didn't make stupid mistakes.
well if kcp wasn't under house arrest and Lonzo was available I think they take it. Although Hart played good.
Spurs offense has been worse with Loenard so far than without him.
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017...uncanny-valley
Hopefully it's just Kawhi is still getting in shape, and he's just out of sync with everyone and he will improve.
Kawhi's next step in the evolution is becoming a great facilitator for his team mates on the court. It would make him that much more dangerous, and this offense desperately needs that. It's why Manu is still plays a big part at 40 years old.
If he isn't 100% health, which he obviously isn't, this is a great opportunity to really work on that part of his game while he improves physically. He really shouldn't be trying to show the world he's back and put up 20ppg right now. He should be working on finding ways to get his guys open looks. The other part will them come on its own.
You mean several more months? It had already been over 6.
I read a stat that said we have 30th offense and 1st defense with Leonard...
The problem with the offense is that, Kawhi is messing up the flow of the offense. Everyone knows he's the best player but what, like 25 games the team has been molding around LMA. We basically got conjoined twins right now. The balance is off and Pop is trying to let them figure it out like he always does. But Kawhi ball stopping isn't helping. My opinion is that until he is fully healthy he should be getting 95% of his shots/points in the flow of the offense and then growing from there. It's easier to adapt that way and more natural. It's just awkward right now.
what if he never takes that step? He's really a scorer and not a playmaker at his core.
I suppose patience... he's only just getting back.
Last edited by SAGirl; 01-01-2018 at 03:53 PM.
If there was ever a time to find that out, it's now. This is the perfect opportunity for him to learn / work on facilitating while his body catches up.. If he can't, you start working on making the appropriate changes in the off season.
But instead, the PATFO will give Parker a huge extension, and bring Manu back again as the teams only real facilitator.
Last edited by SAGirl; 01-01-2018 at 05:57 PM.
It's not like the Spurs looked great against Warriors this season without Kawhi...Or against Rockets with Kawhi playing only 15 minutes... Or playing on the road when most role players failed..
If you mean that Kawhi dominating the ball has not led to good things in just SIX games...playing only +20' in TWO of the six...Yeah, it's alarming.
Not really. Since Parker's return most offensive plays have been P&Rs between him and LMA, then LMA from the post...Finally, Pau creating."The Spurs run a free-flowing offense, which requires all five players to move on the same beat, cutting, setting screens and filling up space in accordance with a natural flow"
The only time they run a full free-flowing offense is when the 2nd unit is on the court.
They haven't really played well with kawhi. The first 3 games, him playing just 15-16 minutes, there is no doubt that affects everyone's rhythm and even the game's flow. On top of that, Pop's unstable lineups (complicated by injuries) don't make it any easier.
To a degree I suspect Pop isn't making any adjustments right now. It's too soon, but he does have to try to start improving this offense. If his answer to their problems is more Bryn Forbes, God help the Spurs.
dude please don't player fan it up right now.... Tp and LMA draws tons of good looks "in the flow of the offense". I think what we are talking about it the iso ball that Leonard does that stalls the offense and stops the ball movement. It's not Melo bad since it is efficient as heck but it doesn't help the team aspect of getting everybody touches and letting things come naturally. Don't get defensive...
And get tons of shots from their P&Rs and LMA's post-ups, too. It wouldn't make sense to deny the SL offense runs that way.
Getting everybody shots...It's just delusional. There is no team in the league that works that way.It doesn't help the team aspect of getting everybody touches and letting things come naturally.
GSW have three main scorers. 1-a/1-b and vice versa in Curry/KD and then Klay as #3 option. The same with any elite team.
Pop is letting Kawhi to try to realize what he's able to do now and what not. If he can come back full strenght this season or if he must wait a real offseason-treatment to become himself again.
Obviously it takes times.
Sadly, it could lead to detriment of team-chemistry, LMA's summer talks, wins, whatever on these first weeks...But it's necessary in long-term.
I guess Pop is willing to sacrifice everything to facilitate Kawhi this proccess of new awareness of himself on court.
James Harden dieded.
They say at least for two weeks. I wonder if it's the curse on CP3...
Just watched the last 3 minutes of the BKYN vs. MAGIC game. JSimms was awful and had 3 possessions down the stretch of a close game where he, one time TO the ball, the others he just drove in to the basket into a crowd and heaved up some . Magic lost 98-95
Magic
STARTERS MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS A. GordonPF 41 8-20 2-8 2-3 1 11 12 0 1 0 2 2 -5 20 E. FournierSF 33 4-15 0-4 5-5 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 5 +1 13 J. SimmonsSF 30 3-12 1-5 3-4 3 2 5 3 1 0 1 1 -10 10 B. BiyomboC 29 4-9 0-0 5-6 9 8 17 0 0 3 1 3 -4 13 E. PaytonPG 32 7-15 1-3 2-3 1 3 4 7 2 1 3 2 +0 17 BENCH MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS M. SpeightsPF 16 3-5 1-2 1-2 1 6 7 1 0 0 1 2 +6 8 W. IwunduSF 19 2-6 1-3 0-0 3 1 4 1 0 0 0 2 -1 5 D.J. AugustinPG 16 1-5 0-3 1-2 0 1 1 2 0 0 1 1 -3 3 M. HezonjaSG 17 2-7 0-2 0-0 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 -4 4 A. AfflaloSG 8 1-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 +5 2 K. BirchC Has not entered game S. MackPG Has not entered game TEAM 35-96 6-31 19-25 19 33 52 16 5 5 12 18 95 36.8% 20.0% 76.0%
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