Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Spurtacular]

Pavlov Let's look at all the damning details you wanted to sperm shield against in your stupid laugh at the guy who wrote it cuckoldry.

* Paul Combetta -- the Platte River Networks technician who used the “BleachBit” program to destroy thousands of Hillary Clinton’s emails when they were under congressional subpoena and preservation orders

* No, I’m not suggesting that DOJ direct the FBI to break into Mr. Combetta’s home with guns drawn in the dead of night, as Mueller did with former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. I’d save the brass-knuckles tactics for hardened criminals, as the law intends. I’m talking about the aggressive but wholly legitimate step Mueller has taken: Calling BS on attempts by criminal suspects to use lawyers to conceal their schemes..... Back in November, we catalogued the stark contrasts between Mueller’s brand of hardball and the kid-gloves treatment given to subjects of the Clinton-emails investigation.

* Naturally, the defense attempted to rely on the attorney–client privilege to shield communications between the lawyer and the suspects from disclosure. But Mueller successfully countered that, under the crime-fraud exception to that privilege, communications are not deemed confidential if they are in furtherance of a crime, fraud, or civil wrong — which includes a scheme to dupe the government or undermine an investigation....
Of course, in the Clinton probe — which Attorney General Loretta Lynch instructed FBI director James Comey to refer to as a “matter,” lest anyone get the impression the Federal Bureau of Investigation was doing, you know, an investigation — the Obama Justice Department resisted using the grand jury at all, let alone using it to pry information from lawyers. But hyping the attorney–client privilege into an impregnable barrier was the key to whitewashing the case: Witnesses couldn’t be questioned about the process of reviewing Clinton’s emails and destroying tens of thousands of them, about Clinton’s transferring to them classified emails that they lacked necessary clearances to possess, about their storage of classified emails on their private laptops, and so on — all because they were lawyers and such questioning would purportedly violate the attorney–client privilege.

* It was unmitigated nonsense, but very useful nonsense. It enabled the Obama Justice Department to feign the appearance of a thoroughgoing inquiry: No, no, the fix wasn’t in; they tried really hard to make the case but, gee whiz, they ran into some legal restrictions that just couldn’t be overcome.

* Mueller, to the contrary, is not merely going through the motions. He is doing what the Justice Department usually does: working hard to make the case and knocking over phony roadblocks placed in his path. When the defense says, “attorney–client privilege,” Mueller responds, “Tell it to the judge.” They lose, as he knew they would; then he marches the lawyer in to the grand jury, gets the testimony, and indicts the clients.

[TSA]

Reading is essential.

It doesn't matter what you think of them. It's what they said and are under oath about what's important.

And the fact republicans dont want the public to see.

21 Hours of testimony under oath
Laying down the foundation of the dossier, how they crafted it, etc
Pointing them on the right path to investigate Trump/Deutche Bank connection
Instead republicans look into Fusion GPS Deutche Bank account
Find nothing in there
Republicans "investigators"
TSA Finds more credibility in Trump's tweets than actual people who know what they're talking about
I have a nuclear button to push too
TSA impressed by a madman

Your life

Does Glenn Simpson mention meeting Bruce Ohr and hiring his wife to work for Fusion GPS yes or no?

[djohn2oo8]

Lordy! Pisser getting two pieced.

[Reck]

Does Glenn Simpson mention meeting Bruce Ohr and hiring his wife to work for Fusion GPS yes or no?

Dont know. But we would find out if the person or persons responsible for withholding the transcripts of these hearings actually release them.

[TSA]

Dont know. But we would find out if the person or persons responsible for withholding the transcripts of these hearings actually release them.

You posted his op-ed how do you not know if he mentioned that?

[TSA]

Lordy! Pisser getting two pieced.

ddodge2oo8

Let’s bet accounts again on who funded the Steele dossier. Do you accept yes or no?

[Reck]

You posted his op-ed how do you not know if he mentioned that?

Because there is no mention of it in there?

But since this is an important issue for you, it works for both of us to have the transcripts out so we can read why he had his wife working for his firm. It's a valid question.

[TSA]

Maybe read this before embarrassing yourself further.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/o...-gps.html?_r=0

Truth bombs. Republicans "investigators" refuse to release transcripts. Only selectively leaking what suits them.

It's that whole context thing your kind is not so fond of.

truth bombs

“Finally, we debunked the biggest canard being pushed by the president’s men — the notion that we somehow knew of the June 9, 2016, meeting in Trump Tower between some Russians and the Trump brain trust.”


Glenn Simpson met with Natalia Veselnitskaya hours before the meeting with Trump Jr. and then Simpson met with her after the meeting.

Pop quiz Reck. How many of this op-ed’s authors pled the 5th?

[Reck]

truth bombs

“Finally, we debunked the biggest canard being pushed by the president’s men — the notion that we somehow knew of the June 9, 2016, meeting in Trump Tower between some Russians and the Trump brain trust.”


Glenn Simpson met with Natalia Veselnitskaya hours before the meeting with Trump Jr. and then Simpson met with her after the meeting.

Pop quiz Reck. How many of this op-ed’s authors pled the 5th?

How do you know he met with the Russian chick hours before? That seems like privilege info and first hand accounts only select people would be in the know of. How are you one of these people?

There is a lot we can learn via the transcripts. Just like we would learn the full scope of the Storkz and Page's texts in full. Just saying.

[Spurtacular]

Reck

Pop quiz Reck. How many of this op-ed’s authors pled the 5th?

[Reck]

Reck

Pop quiz Reck. How many of this op-ed’s authors pled the 5th?

Haven't you been reading? If the said transcripts are released, we would 100% know the answer to that question.

But I can guess and say, not a lot since they provided a lot of information about the dossier and their own financial statements.

[Reck]

Hey since TSA and Spurtacular are so curious about info that should already be in the hearing they were in, please contact your congressmen and ask for the release of the transcripts.

[TSA]

How do you know he met with the Russian chick hours before? That seems like privilege info and first hand accounts only select people would be in the know of. How are you one of these people?

There is a lot we can learn via the transcripts. Just like we would learn the full scope of the Storkz and Page's texts in full. Just saying.

But hours before the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, Fusion co-founder and ex-Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson was with Veselnitskaya in a Manhattan federal courtroom, a confidential source told Fox News. Court records reviewed by Fox News, email correspondence and published reports corroborate the pair’s presence together. The source told Fox News they also were together after the Trump Tower meeting.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...-sit-down.html

[TSA]

Haven't you been reading? If the said transcripts are released, we would 100% know the answer to that question.

But I can guess and say, not a lot since they provided a lot of information about the dossier and their own financial statements.

Instead of guessing type into google each of the op-ed authors names and pled the 5th. Post your results here.

[Reck]

But hours before the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, Fusion co-founder and ex-Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson was with Veselnitskaya in a Manhattan federal courtroom, a confidential source told Fox News. Court records reviewed by Fox News, email correspondence and published reports corroborate the pair’s presence together. The source told Fox News they also were together after the Trump Tower meeting.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...-sit-down.html

You're gonna have to do better than Fox News. Trump state TV and all.

[TSA]

Hey since TSA and Spurtacular are so curious about info that should already be in the hearing they were in, please contact your congressmen and ask for the release of the transcripts.

No need to write, my congressman Adam Schiff will just leak them.

[TSA]

You're gonna have to do better than Fox News. Trump state TV and all.

You are free to review the court records yourself.

[Spurtacular]

Hey since TSA and Spurtacular are so curious about info that should already be in the hearing they were in, please contact your congressmen and ask for the release of the transcripts.

I'm not interested in this nothing burger though; I'd much rather pursue the business of the people.

[DarrinS]

Like my nig Reck just posted

I clicked on that, expecting full transcripts. Disappointed, tbh.

[DarrinS]

Evidently, reports by NYT, WAPO, and CNN in spring 2017, are now right wing conspiracies.

[RandomGuy]

Your theory is . I’m glad you won’t be spamming it anymore.

My prediction came true. Rather than post a military analysis of the Ukranian arms sales, you wish that a theory you don't like would go away, because you find its conclusions inconvenient for your worldview.

(slow clap)

[RandomGuy]

Let’s bet accounts again on who funded the Steele dossier. Do you accept yes or no?

Irrelevant.

Cir stantial ad hominem. Look it up.

[RandomGuy]

Your theory is . I’m glad you won’t be spamming it anymore.

I generally agree Russia's efforts had little overall effect, but it wasn't for a lack of trying. The question is, whether we should put up with active efforts of an intelligence agency of a foreign government to attack the very idea of democracy itself. Western liberal democracy is under threat from authoritarian regimes. That is important.

There is also the matter that the sitting president appears to be actively compromised by that same government.

But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened, and has gone so far as to take the extraordinary effort to delegitimize his own intelligence services when they something did happen. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Fact 7:
Donald Trump, when forced to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill passed with a veto-proof majority of both houses of Congress, issued a signing statement saying most of it was uncons utional, and that his administration would enforce it as little as possible.


Fact 8:
when Russia retaliated against sanctions by forcing the US embassy to cut staff, Trump thanked Putin for the action, making him look weak, something he has said one should never do, and is inconsistent with his past behavior in any other regard.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bull conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

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[djohn2oo8]

Lordy!

[djohn2oo8]

I clicked on that, expecting full transcripts. Disappointed, tbh.

So you expect them to release information that was testified to under oath and behind closed doors? Congress has the power to do that. Why haven't they?