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Agreed, other than the 2013-14 Niners.
First off, Pop is awful . . .
- Every time it gets past 6-7 minutes without Gasol coming out, he resorts to Lauvergne
- Playing the entire bench together, when 1-2 aren't NBA players
- Putting in Murray for the final defensive possession, yet inexplicably having Anderson defend McCollum
- The final play is not the type you run for a traditional big and even if it were, you don't do it after you called timeout on the inbound because they obviously knew what was coming at that point
On the one hand, the rotation is in a constant state of flux, they're oftentimes playing unproven or fringe players and going down the stretch either playing through a traditional big, with a subpar handle and play making ability or a 40 year old guard, so you could argue the record, no matter the compe ion, is impressive. On the other hand, they can't score or create separation, particularly on the road and a rare time they do, they predictably find a way to lose anyway. Every single game is difficult. You'd think at some point, law of averages would kick in and they'd have a game where they shoot lights out and win comfortably.
Agreed, other than the 2013-14 Niners.
Bert, Laverne, Bryn, Fatty (along with Manu) were out there for like the last four minutes of the third, giving up every bit of the lead we worked for and then some.
He'd be a homeless drunk without Duncan and Parker
As long is Pau and LMA start together, it will be damned near impossible to stagger their minutes. This is just another case of that applying.
Bruh, that team's collapse was one of the easiest call's I've ever made.
You have a point.
I am not sure if PATFO realizes they have a Joff problem or if they never meant to play this way and have been forced into it by Kawhi and Rudy Gay injuries with Danny lately getting injured depleting them even more from the ability to play a more perimeter style some minutes.
Manu just had a terrific scoring game... and he couldn't carry that terrible bench bc they couldn't defend the rim, which is really the worst complaint about Joff.
And I know it didn't exactly hurt us on that play; but why the is Patty one of the five in on defense? Brandon Paul would've been a superior option, tbh.
They collapsed, but they were also one dumb Kraep decision away from another SB (and prolly a win).
Spurs scouting department just sucks. At Westchester, Jimmer played with a 7'2" center Jordan Bachynski. I felt he was a borderline NBA player. But he's way better than Joff. He had a nice post-up game, great passing, great finishing around the rim, good finesse, could make a mid range jumper to keep the defense honest; a bit like a mini Boban. I dunno what he's doing these days, but when I watch Joff out there I'm thinking to myself I know there was way better sh** out there. WTF
This is definitely the least talented team I’ve seen in my lifetime. Aldridge scoring 30 should have translated into an automatic win. The spurs should be undefeated when he scores 25 plus
Bull . Every time he's able to sub Gasol out around mid quarter, they're able to successfully do it. They could do it even if they can't, but that would require thinking. He could have played a strict 3 big rotation tonight, with Bertans.
Good point. Mills is often in for key defensive possessions. It's one thing when you don't intend to call a timeout after and want him in for offense, but that clearly wasn't the case in this instance. Without Leonard and Green and with McCollum the type he was presumably signed to guard, if Paul isn't guarding him on that possession, why sign him at all? Especially considering the lack of a viable third center option.
Lauvergne is the only other center on the roster, unfortunately.
Spurs usually get very good value with free agent bigs ; West, Lee, Boban, Diaw, and Baynes all exceeded their minimum contracts values by being above average players at their positions.
Lavergne is easily the worst of the minimum contract big man signings, the fact that some people think that he is better than Ayers is staggering to me. Since that Utah game, Pop has been trying his best to not play him but its hard when he is the only other traditionally sized center on the roster.
The only thing I can think of is having in for FT's after a miss/foul; but that's still stupid, tbh.
It was another nod to Parker signing was it not? Most of his sh** has been pretty bad. Diaw is the exception, but he wasn't exactly a diamond in the rough.
Pendergraph actually had some useful applications, finishing around the rim, decent defense, good screen settings, some pic n' roll skills. Joff is just terrible at everything 'cept average screen setter.
Lauvergne has no business getting PT or being in the NBA. Sub Pau out early and go to a three big rotation with Bertans subbing in early in 1st/ 3rd.
Pop should have shelved Patty after the 1st half ( he blew).
DeJounte needs to learn how to absorb contact to create easy angles in the paint. He has the quickness, he just refuses to absorb contact and makes it very easy for the weakside defender to close in and get a strong contest. He knows the strong contest is coming so he let's up and throws up a floater. It's an easy fix. If young 180 lb TP can do it, so should Murray.
White should have received some burn.
Almost tempted to say it, have Anderson play spot center if need be. Pop should've tried it in that at Utah game after LMA fouled out and with Gasol out and Joff looking exactly like a player on his fourth team in 14 months.
Love T.K.O was actually a good passer too and when he could catch the ball, ended up finishing at the rim well. He shot 58% overall one year with us iirc. Thought he had decent verticality but a little weak and tended to get pushed back in mid air but, in all a better player that never worked out because he had the worst hands I've ever seen on a big.
Diaw during the 12-13 and 13-14 was a perfect fit, after those two years he had issues even fitting in to his jersey. PATFO did move him (though it cost a pick) but got Gasol as a result who has been the second best player on this team, in my opinion, this season -to their credit.
David Lee would be an significant upgrade over Joff but that ship has sailed.
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Last edited by TheGreatYacht; 01-08-2018 at 12:45 AM.
Yeah.
Said this awhile ago. Gay and Anderson should be the third and fourth centers. They have 7'3'' and 7'2.75 wingspans to Lauvergne's 6'9.5'', are about equal on the defensive glass, better rim protectors and significantly better overall players.
Obviously, you don't leave them on an island to defend post up brutes like Nurkic (not like Lauvergne is capable of this either), but a guy like Davis, they should be fine. Blocking him out would be somewhat of a concern, but a worthwhile trade off for not playing Lauvergne.
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