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[koriwhat]

so whats a true liberal in your eyes? policy positions, etc. or who would be an example?

anyone who can think reasonably without being a sissy and getting their feelings hurt or involved in every damn issue. we have to go back a couple decades to find a real liberal. they don't exist in today's world.

[spurraider21]

anyone who can think reasonably without being a sissy and getting their feelings hurt or involved in every damn issue. we have to go back a couple decades to find a real liberal. they don't exist in today's world.

so what policy positions would a true liberal hold on the major issues?

[Blake]

anyone who can think reasonably without being a sissy and getting their feelings hurt

That's rich

[koriwhat]

so what policy positions would a true liberal hold on the major issues?

- uphold law and order
- let people govern their own bodies
- less government involvement(even though i think yall want more gov intervention)
- handouts for those with the capacity to work
- prop up our communities
-etc...

the list could go on and on. as well, you far leftys probably hold some of the same ideals close that i agree with except i believe yall go to the extremes of issues and then plop them feels on top of them. yall muddy the waters.

That's rich

can't dispute it huh? feelings... em!

[spurraider21]

- uphold law and order
- let people govern their own bodies
- less government involvement(even though i think yall want more gov intervention)
- handouts for those with the capacity to work
- prop up our communities
-etc...

cool. so how would a true conservative differ from a true liberal on these issues?

[koriwhat]

cool. so how would a true conservative differ from a true liberal on these issues?

not sure. i'd say yall have quite a few issues that seem the same on paper but yall can't come to a compromise.

for as much as the bush's put us through yall hate djt more than them. why exactly? those s put us in the mess we are in today. we should've lynched that whole ing family.

[Blake]

can't dispute it huh? feelings... em!

No, you just described yourself here

[koriwhat]

No, you just described yourself here

i'm not a very emotional person when it comes to others. however, i will "rant" to get my point across whether you like it or not.

[Blake]

i'm not a very emotional person when it comes to others. however, i will "rant" to get my point across whether you like it or not.

[koriwhat]

it's true. behind this keyboard i am pretty damn chill even when you all think i am "triggered" or having a "meltdown". yall just perceive what yall want to believe and perception is 99% truth. your make believe world is 100% bull however.

[spurraider21]

not sure. i'd say yall have quite a few issues that seem the same on paper but yall can't come to a compromise.

for as much as the bush's put us through yall hate djt more than them. why exactly? those s put us in the mess we are in today. we should've lynched that whole ing family.

you basically define conservatism and then say "this is what true liberals would be"

[Pavlov]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...g-f-trump.html



Man parents are teaching kids respecting the office of the president
Great teaching Not

Was he black? Totally cancels out the Herschel Walker endorsement if so.

[koriwhat]

you basically define conservatism and then say "this is what true liberals would be"

so you don't want those things i listed? i guess i can cross them off my "liberal" list then so i know what yalls agenda actually is.

that's right, more government, more en lements, more handouts, more poverty, more unemployment, more spying on citizens.... yall want a ing dictator but but but.....?

[Blake]

it's true. behind this keyboard i am pretty damn chill even when you all think i am "triggered" or having a "meltdown". yall just perceive what yall want to believe and perception is 99% truth. your make believe world is 100% bull however.

[spurraider21]

so you don't want those things i listed? i guess i can cross them off my "liberal" list then so i know what yalls agenda actually is.

that's right, more government, more en lements, more handouts, more poverty, more unemployment, more spying on citizens.... yall want a ing dictator but but but.....?

i mean, you don't have to agree with the politics ... but your take on this whole things seems to be "a true liberal would believe [conservative values]"

and if i'm mischaracterizing that, then i'm sorry, but please explain what the difference is between a true liberal and a conservative

[Blake]

so you don't want those things i listed? i guess i can cross them off my "liberal" list then so i know what yalls agenda actually is.

that's right, more government, more en lements, more handouts, more poverty, more unemployment, more spying on citizens.... yall want a ing dictator but but but.....?

Lol what's changed on that list now that Trump is in office?

[koriwhat]

i mean, you don't have to agree with the politics ... but your take on this whole things seems to be "a true liberal would believe [conservative values]"

and if i'm mischaracterizing that, then i'm sorry, but please explain what the difference is between a true liberal and a conservative

give me a list of both sides ideals and then i can better answer these questions. yall seem to be looking for an answer i obviously don't have because i thought the small list supplied was what most in our country would want but i guess i was wrong. were they conservative ideals? i hope so but i also hope they're liberal ideals too. a better world is what we're after or are we not?

i don't look at policies like yall do; i look at actions. i'm not a political junky, i am a observer of people and the groups they belong to. i sit on the sideline just smh at both sides and those in the middle.

Lol what's changed on that list now that Trump is in office?

- uphold law and order ////(seems like immigration laws are starting to actually be laws, as well as others that were just blown off in the past)
- let people govern their own bodies ////(this is worse thus far especially with head sessions)
- less government involvement(even though i think yall want more gov intervention) ////(doubtful thus far)
- handouts for those with the capacity to work ////(not much has changed if at all to this point)
- prop up our communities ////(???)
-etc... ////(???)

[spurraider21]

give me a list of both sides ideals and then i can better answer these questions.

this is exactly what i asked of you, since you seem to know what a "true liberal" is vs the liberals on this board

yall seem to be looking for an answer i obviously don't have because i thought the small list supplied was what most in our country would want but i guess i was wrong. were they conservative ideals? i hope so but i also hope they're liberal ideals too. a better world is what we're after or are we not?

and this is exactly what im talking about. what you're basically saying is, in order to be a "true liberal", you have to be conservative . so in essence you are bashing "fake liberals" because they aren't conservative. not because they aren't "true liberals"

[koriwhat]

and this is exactly what im talking about. what you're basically saying is, in order to be a "true liberal", you have to be conservative . so in essence you are bashing "fake liberals" because they aren't conservative. not because they aren't "true liberals"

not at all. when i say fake liberals i mean crybabies. those whose feelings trump actual issues that need to be resolved. those that point fingers but don't want fingers pointed at them. those that want to squash free speech but want to be heard. you know the type. don't play stupid.

as well, if my small list isn't shared ideology with liberalism then what exactly is liberalism? so if i share same ideals with you but you can't stand me then my ideals are wrong and don't correspond with your same ideals? so confusing.

[spurraider21]

not at all. when i say fake liberals i mean crybabies. those whose feelings trump actual issues that need to be resolved. those that point fingers but don't want fingers pointed at them. those that want to squash free speech but want to be heard. you know the type. don't play stupid.

as well, if my small list isn't shared ideology with liberalism then what exactly is liberalism? so if i share same ideals with you but you can't stand me then my ideals are wrong and don't correspond with your same ideals? so confusing.

its not that our ideals are different. its that you take the liberal ideals that you dont like and say "thats fake liberals." no, its just liberals. you just dont like it. thats ok

also, at least on this board, outside of bat boutons (who nobody takes seriously anyway), i dont know of any liberals that "want to squash free speech." though those do in fact exist (antifa, etc), they are a fringe

[koriwhat]

its not that our ideals are different. its that you take the liberal ideals that you dont like and say "thats fake liberals." no, its just liberals. you just dont like it. thats ok

i have no idea what those ideals are unless listed.

fake liberals... here's a personal example... i was at a halloween party before the election and my buddy was going on about the clintons this and that(he didn't vote either and has some theory's you could say... lol) but this chick comes over and says, "yall voted trump", to which we turned with perplexed faces and both nodded no. she then went on to say how HRC was a and this and that but ended it with, "yeah i voted for her. i had to. i'm brainwashed and there was no way i was going to vote for trump". my response was simply, "if you're crazy you have no clue and if you're brainwashed i suppose the same so in reality you wanted to vote HRC from the get go and there's no need to justify your decision. i don't care either way."

that's a fake liberal! boohoo my feelings! she might be a bit onto something when she claimed to be brainwashed but her feelings got the best of her.

[spurraider21]

i have no idea what those ideals are unless listed.

fake liberals... here's a personal example... i was at a halloween party before the election and my buddy was going on about the clintons this and that(he didn't vote either and has some theory's you could say... lol) but this chick comes over and says, "yall voted trump", to which we turned with perplexed faces and both nodded no. she then went on to say how HRC was a and this and that but ended it with, "yeah i voted for her. i had to. i'm brainwashed and there was no way i was going to vote for trump". my response was simply, "if you're crazy you have no clue and if you're brainwashed i suppose the same so in reality you wanted to vote HRC from the get go and there's no need to justify your decision. i don't care either way."

that's a fake liberal! boohoo my feelings! she might be a bit onto something when she claimed to be brainwashed but her feelings got the best of her.

and yet you seem to assign that term to literally every non-conservative poster here

[koriwhat]

and yet you seem to assign that term to literally every non-conservative poster here

is that what yall are outraged at and why yall claim i am republican? lmao! prove me otherwise. i can only go on text just the same as yall judge me on.

when i see blind hatred for djt i just think fake liberal.

[boutons_deux]

Colbert mic'd Trash to get his anthem rendition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6N7...ature=youtu.be