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    he was the only answer we had to ben simmons all game... though a healthy kawhi would have been a nice option too

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    TBH Jimmer Fredette is a far more complete player than Bryn Forbes... and that's saying something.

    I honestly cringe everytime Bryn tries to defend someone. He can't help himself and ALWAYS overcommits with his momentum - every damn time.

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    TBH Jimmer Fredette is a far more complete player than Bryn Forbes... and that's saying something.

    I honestly cringe everytime Bryn tries to defend someone. He can't help himself and ALWAYS overcommits with his momentum - every damn time.
    Doesn't matter. He stands in the right spot.


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    He's played well enough that I think he's become more relevant for the team to keep but he's still a long shot to stay in my mind... He's due for his pay day and the Spurs are strongest at the forward spots, and have lowballed him and will lowball him again or play him like they did JSimms... so I am enjoying watching him this season, haters be damned. I am happy for him that he's played well enough to get himself a contract next season.

    He still has room for improvement, specially with aggressiveness shooting, but he can only get better through playing time from now on, and continued coaching.




    I liked how in one of the highlights you can clearly see he's telling guys "come on!" He was clearly upset at the lack of effort showed early in that game.
    It seems beyond dispute that Pop likes Kyle more than he did Simmons and trusts him more. Moreover, as you pointed out in your "C'mon, guys" post, Kyle has more leadership instinct. He is valued for his intangibles off-court as much as he is his skill on-court. PATFO see him as a bridge as much as Kawhi or 50Mills. He is a conduit of Spur culture, and I will be shocked if he is not retained.

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    It seems beyond dispute that Pop likes Kyle more than he did Simmons and trusts him more. Moreover, as you pointed out in your "C'mon, guys" post, Kyle has more leadership instinct. He is valued for his intangibles off-court as much as he is his skill on-court. PATFO see him as a bridge as much as Kawhi or 50Mills. He is a conduit of Spur culture, and I will be shocked if he is not retained.
    Finally, we are only deep at the 3/4 if Gay stays healthy.

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    He has been playing too well to drop from the rotation.
    If anything, the guards have been subpar many nights.
    That has nothing to do with what I said.

    He'd be fine in an elite offense, that can get away with playing a perimeter player who can't break down the defense or shoot (although most would have forced him to become a willing 3-point shooter). This team is far too limited to be able to get away with that though. They need every bit of offense they can get.

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    TBH Jimmer Fredette is a far more complete player than Bryn Forbes... and that's saying something.

    I honestly cringe everytime Bryn tries to defend someone. He can't help himself and ALWAYS overcommits with his momentum - every damn time.
    Once again pandering to the white man what does this have to do with anything?

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    That has nothing to do with what I said.

    He'd be fine in an elite offense, that can get away with playing a perimeter player who can't break down the defense or shoot (although most would have forced him to become a willing 3-point shooter). This team is far too limited to be able to get away with that though. They need every bit of offense they can get.
    I think I understand what you said.
    The problem is not him.
    The problem is many games where you get 4 points combined from Tony and Patty... or a similar number from Tony and Danny, etc.
    As I said the guards are too limited. It's kinda puzzling the addition of Rudy Gay, although I see as them going for more versatility... but they were already quite good in their forwards and could have used 1 quality center (better than Joff) and a better guard than all the rooks/youngsters they have. There were guards out there like Tyreke Evans and others and they simply said nahhhhhh.
    "We like what we have." Probably bc they aren't likely to move on or cut minutes for any of the current rotation guards unless it was for Kyrie (who they wanted to get) or CP3 or someone of that nature. I commend them for trying to go for stars bc they need star power, but it was basically star or bust.

    I like Davis myself enough but he's not going to fix a bad guard rotation. That said, he has earned some playing time IMO.

    Edit: Kyle hasn't been a negative offensively, more like a neutral factor and he brings so much to the game that he's almost always going to help you win games. He's not a complete negative offensively like Murray is. If you don't play Kyle at all and give all his minutes to Davis, I am not sure this team is any better, as they have very different skillsets and Kyle is a lot more versatile. If you don't bench Kyle for Davis I am not sure why you are even posting about Davis in Kyle's "church"
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    Fathead is a zero on offense. Any offense containing him will not be an elite offense.

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    In fact. MVPatty is miles ahead of porker and fathead on offense. Porker is still a couple streets better than fathead on offense. Fathead is a ing trash bum on offense.

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    Once again pandering to the white man what does this have to do with anything?
    And what does race have to do with my comment...?

    Geesh... introspectively check yourself at the door.

    For the record my comment was an adder to my previous one... the one where I said, that I was placing the loss on the inexperience of the "newbies" and their high turnover rate... (which in previous posts I have named as Paul, Dejounte, Forbes, Bertans and Joffrey)
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    I think I understand what you said.
    The problem is not him.
    The problem is many games where you get 4 points combined from Tony and Patty... or a similar number from Tony and Danny, etc.
    As I said the guards are too limited. It's kinda puzzling the addition of Rudy Gay, although I see as them going for more versatility... but they were already quite good in their forwards and could have used 1 quality center (better than Joff) and a better guard than all the rooks/youngsters they have. There were guards out there like Tyreke Evans and others and they simply said nahhhhhh.
    "We like what we have." Probably bc they aren't likely to move on or cut minutes for any of the current rotation guards unless it was for Kyrie (who they wanted to get) or CP3 or someone of that nature. I commend them for trying to go for stars bc they need star power, but it was basically star or bust.

    I like Davis myself enough but he's not going to fix a bad guard rotation. That said, he has earned some playing time IMO.

    Edit: Kyle hasn't been a negative offensively, more like a neutral factor and he brings so much to the game that he's almost always going to help you win games. He's not a complete negative offensively like Murray is. If you don't play Kyle at all and give all his minutes to Davis, I am not sure this team is any better, as they have very different skillsets and Kyle is a lot more versatile. If you don't bench Kyle for Davis I am not sure why you are even posting about Davis in Kyle's "church"
    The four rotation guards are entrenched though. The only clear rotation player who's still relatively unestablished and lacks pedigree, is Anderson. That makes him the only one to where it's at plausible that he could be usurped.

    Anderson has been a slight negative offensively. Even if he were neutral, Bertans has been a clear plus. Again, they need every ounce of offense they can muster.

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    he's been earning his time for a while now. Time to see him get more assertive with his jumper.

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    some of kyle's stats this season are incredible, specially on the defensive end.



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    Not ever. The system doesn’t do him any favors.
    Lol. The system is the only reason he plays. Im not an anderson hater, but to think that he would get any minutes or drafted by another team is illogical

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    Lol. The system is the only reason he plays. Im not an anderson hater, but to think that he would get any minutes or drafted by another team is illogical
    Mtfkn kent is lucky to be in the NBA. If he was drafted by anyone else, dude'd be cut already.

    Should thank his lucky stars he can get a bigger contract with some ty team in the future.

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    I think SAHurls arm is long enough to reach that ...

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    He sucks tonight

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    If he had been playing for GSW there would be a lot more hype about the season he's having defensively (and he would have a lot more assists too)...




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    currently ranked 6th in espn RPM for SF... if only he shot the 3 more frequently... at least a couple a game...
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    currently ranked 6th in espn RPM for SF... if only he shot the 3 more frequently... at least a couple a game...
    Great! I still don’t want to be the team that gives him his next contract.

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    Great! I still don’t want to be the team that gives him his next contract.
    Yup, me either

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    As I have said b4.. not sure he will remain a Spur myself. But some things:
    1. the market is going to be very rough on RFA. He may not get as much as he thought same as JSimms.
    2. Spurs already gave big long term deals to Patty and Pau. Unless they do some major overhaul trades and land some big shot FA.. (very unlikely, wake up and smell the coffee spurstalk), they will sign their best guys back bc they can't do anything else.
    3. You could do worse, like say sign 38 year old Centers to big deals and 5'10 SG to 4 year deals at 29 years old. Kyle's 24 and his best years are ahead of him.
    4. Even with all this ^ he shouldn't be taken for granted to come back. Enjoy Joff Lauvergne if he doesn't come back though.

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