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    I believe that is what the former president did a lot the current president is kicking ass

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    Check my other reply somewhere around here. I spoke of how injuries can happen whenever.
    I don’t need to look at your stats or whatever on injury rate to know 40 marathons lead to less injury/pain than 40 marathons or whatever the constant running and jumping plus contact equate to

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    What has the rest cost the Spurs possible 3rd instead of the 2nd seed?!
    You weren't catching a healthy State ...
    You can beat Rox without HCA ..
    non of the bottom 5 seeds can beat the Spurs in a 7 game series...
    Leonard wasnt winning MVP ...
    none of this, matters . stay healthy and rested
    only the 2nd round of the playoffs and further matters to Pop.
    cuz he can beat everyone else with little effort ...
    making sure KL is healthy in May is all he cares about ...
    This

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    Honestly I wish NBA was like the NFL where each team only played once maybe twice per week and each regular season game had a lot of impact. It'd make the season a lot more exciting and rest wouldn't be an issue.

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    Resting is a given for older guys, imo. The body is wearing down and takes longer to recover. That's why they don't play b2bs.

    For young guys, I think playing less minutes works. They don't need to rest entire games if healthy. Just don't run them to the ground every night so their bodies don't wear down as quickly or they run out of gas by the POs.

    BB is a very high impact sport. Sprinting and jumping all the time, quickly changing directions, chasing offensive players laterally.. all that costs physically.

    This doesn't mean a coach should constantly rest players, specially a lot the same night. That's when respect for fans, sponsors etc comes to play.

    I do think seeding is important, it's just that health is more important.

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    The ing about resting is re ed this year considering he is resting people far less, due to all the injuries. Injury management does not equal rest. Manu's reason for being out last night? Rest... How often have you seen guys sitting out for rest?

    The game is different than it was 25 years ago. The technology and science is available to show different things these days. I remember Kerr referencing something he saw on SportsVU that indicated his players were slowing down during a certain stretch of their schedule, so he opted to rest them the next game. Stuff like that didn't exist before.

    But sure, it's re ed.
    Yep. Its less physical. No need for rest. Its a philosophy, not science. But keep pretending. Steve kerr was so dumb he tried to have his back surgically repaired when that is extremely ignorant. But keep quoting old, out of shape, and medically irresponsible people. Its like a fat person blaming genetics for lifestyle. You dont need to sit out for rest.

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    A lot of pseudo-intellectuals spouting off nonsense in here.

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    If Pop rests players on Friday, I'm raising with the Spurs organization on Friday. I'm tired of getting ing hosed trying to sell my tickets or going to games and seeing ty players playing. They will probably lose to the lakers tomorrow and then rest everyone Friday. Book it.

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    If Pop rests players on Friday, I'm raising with the Spurs organization on Friday. I'm tired of getting ing hosed trying to sell my tickets or going to games and seeing ty players playing. They will probably lose to the lakers tomorrow and then rest everyone Friday. Book it.
    That's why I asked in my OP, what responsibility does Pop have to the fans and sponsors to put the best product on the floor? People have paid alot money to these players and franchise. He made the fans care less about the regular season just like he does. ands that's not good for franchise like San Antonio. It can be tolerated financially in spurts, but not year after year.

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    You name one person and there are literally hundreds of other athletes that prove your grant hill theory wrong. Stockton, malone, kareem, magic had hiv and played consecutively... bird, mchale, jordan, iverson, shawn kemp, you want me to keep naming?

    Youre talking about 30 munutes of playing.

    Now think about bodybuilders... its just sad how this has become a thing
    Bird’s body broke down as did McHale’s at relatively young ages. Just because you spew things doesn’t make it true. Try harder next time.

    People saying rest / injury management doesn’t matter are as crazy as anti-vaccine people

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    Bird’s body broke down as did McHale’s at relatively young ages. Just because you spew things doesn’t make it true. Try harder next time.

    People saying rest / injury management doesn’t matter are as crazy as anti-vaccine people
    Larry bird played 13 seasons. He was scoring 20 ppg his last season at age 35. You have no idea what you are talking about. Injury management and rest arent the same. Youre just not smart

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    If Pop rests players on Friday, I'm raising with the Spurs organization on Friday. I'm tired of getting ing hosed trying to sell my tickets or going to games and seeing ty players playing. They will probably lose to the lakers tomorrow and then rest everyone Friday. Book it.
    Uh, I wouldn't book anything considering the Spurs don't play Friday.....

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    Rest in an nba schedule is not needed for supposedly the most elite atheletes in the world

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    Uh, I wouldn't book anything considering the Spurs don't play Friday.....
    Technically, he's bound to be correct. Pop will not be playing any players on Friday.

    Book away.

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    Bird’s body broke down as did McHale’s at relatively young ages. Just because you spew things doesn’t make it true. Try harder next time.

    People saying rest / injury management doesn’t matter are as crazy as anti-vaccine people
    Bird also hurt his back trying to gravel his own driveway like a dumbass.

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    Technically, he's bound to be correct. Pop will not be playing any players on Friday.

    Book away.
    true.. whole squad/coaching staff gets a DNP-Rest

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    Bird also hurt his back trying to gravel his own driveway like a dumbass.
    Yep not enough rest

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    Technically, he's bound to be correct. Pop will not be playing any players on Friday.

    Book away.
    Thanks for having my back bro... FO, I meant Saturday.

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    That's why I asked in my OP, what responsibility does Pop have to the fans and sponsors to put the best product on the floor? People have paid alot money to these players and franchise. He made the fans care less about the regular season just like he does. ands that's not good for franchise like San Antonio. It can be tolerated financially in spurts, but not year after year.
    Good eloquent take.. I never thought of that but you're exactly right. Why should we buy their if he doesn't give a ? They will probably move to Seattle anyway. They are now and they rest their players. They don't have a chance in to win a playoff series right now. Foolsgold. Good stuff.

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    Rest does not guarantee you will not have injuries, but it reduces the chances. Few teams have the depth to survive in the playoffs without their key players. However we can optimally reduce the risk of injury while giving ourselves favorable seating for the playoffs and develop an offense and defense in rhythm is the right answer, and I think that is what pop shoots for.

    The following study http://www.sloansportsconference.com...BA-players.pdf commissioned by Ticketmaster (?) indicated the following factors were the most reliable predictors of injury in NBA players:



    (1) the average speed at which a player ran during games;
    (2) the total number of games played;
    (3) the average distance covered by a player;
    (4) the average number of minutes played; and
    (5) the average number of field goals attempted.

    Resting players whole games, as well as resting them more during a game, would appear to me to impact several of those factors, and make it less likely the players will have injuries.

    Having lived through several playoff runs ruined by injuries, I would think spurs fans would have learned that lesson and would always err on the side of caution. Not saying rest would have or could have prevented the injury per se, only that it reduces the risk of injury and I am in favor of that. Just like, no guarantee a seat belt will keep you from dying in a car crash, but I prefer to err on the side with probability on its side.

    And as a fan, I understand being pissed off if i buy a ticket and my favorite player is not playing. But as a fan, I have the higher goal in mind, and would never be bitter about it because its all about the ring,and giving us the best chance at that.

    If the NBA and sponors care about this, they can change the rules.
    Last edited by spursfaninla; 01-15-2018 at 01:23 PM.

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    Rest does not guarantee you will not have injuries, but it reduces the chances. Few teams have the depth to survive in the playoffs without their key players. However we can optimally reduce the risk of injury while giving ourselves favorable seating for the playoffs and develop an offense and defense in rhythm is the right answer, and I think that is what pop shoots for.

    The following study http://www.sloansportsconference.com...BA-players.pdf commissioned by Ticketmaster (?) indicated the following factors were the most reliable predictors of injury in NBA players:



    (1) the average speed at which a player ran during games;
    (2) the total number of games played;
    (3) the average distance covered by a player;
    (4) the average number of minutes played; and
    (5) the average number of field goals attempted.

    Resting players whole games, as well as resting them more during a game, would appear to me to impact several of those factors, and make it less likely the players will have injuries.

    Having lived through several playoff runs ruined by injuries, I would think spurs fans would have learned that lesson and would always err on the side of caution. Not saying rest would have or could have prevented the injury per se, only that it reduces the risk of injury and I am in favor of that. Just like, no guarantee a seat belt will keep you from dying in a car crash, but I prefer to err on the side with probability on its side.

    And as a fan, I understand being pissed off if i buy a ticket and my favorite player is not playing. But as a fan, I have the higher goal in mind, and would never be bitter about it because its all about the ring,and giving us the best chance at that.

    If the NBA and sponors care about this, they can change the rules.
    Of course. Not driving car every day decreases chance you get in wreck because you drive less. But youre right that doesnt decrease all chance of injury, and as spurs have seen this year, doesnt really fit into this probability. And i really dont know if it is possible to reach full potential doing this.

    The body responds by pushing itself past previous limits. This is how you grow when lifting weights or conditioning. If someone is casually playing and never pushing themselves to beat past output i dont know how it is possible to get better/faster/stronger.

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    Spurs need to get better. A lot.
    Resting will not accomplish that.
    /sorted

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    he has guys constantly getting injured this season... green, anderson, kawhi, manu, gasol, gay. i dont think ramping up their minutes is the solution tbh

    lma has rested 2 games. this is being blown out of proportion

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    Cjw needs rest

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    Rest does not guarantee you will not have injuries, but it reduces the chances. Few teams have the depth to survive in the playoffs without their key players. However we can optimally reduce the risk of injury while giving ourselves favorable seating for the playoffs and develop an offense and defense in rhythm is the right answer, and I think that is what pop shoots for.

    The following study http://www.sloansportsconference.com...BA-players.pdf commissioned by Ticketmaster (?) indicated the following factors were the most reliable predictors of injury in NBA players:



    (1) the average speed at which a player ran during games;
    (2) the total number of games played;
    (3) the average distance covered by a player;
    (4) the average number of minutes played; and
    (5) the average number of field goals attempted.

    Resting players whole games, as well as resting them more during a game, would appear to me to impact several of those factors, and make it less likely the players will have injuries.

    Having lived through several playoff runs ruined by injuries, I would think spurs fans would have learned that lesson and would always err on the side of caution. Not saying rest would have or could have prevented the injury per se, only that it reduces the risk of injury and I am in favor of that. Just like, no guarantee a seat belt will keep you from dying in a car crash, but I prefer to err on the side with probability on its side.

    And as a fan, I understand being pissed off if i buy a ticket and my favorite player is not playing. But as a fan, I have the higher goal in mind, and would never be bitter about it because its all about the ring,and giving us the best chance at that.

    If the NBA and sponors care about this, they can change the rules.
    Quality post.

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