Injury Report: 1/14/18

[SAGirl]

Pay Patty $50 Mil? No problem.

Give Kawhi the Supermax? NO WAY!

yea... to assume he will not get it, is ridiculous.

Kawhi will get the supermax...
The team just can't have contracts like Tonys and such... people who are paid have to pull their weight. I expect them to continue to draft and develop guys like they have currently.

They may lose some of their FA from this season... some of them are getting squeezed out in minutes anyways in a fully healthy team, and deserve raises plus minutes. If Spurs can't offer them, just go to Hilliard, Blossomgame, Brandon Paul, etc.

[Ice009]

That interview about LA and Pop's meeting during the off-season is very telling. I didn't read it all as I was too pissed off with how poorly the Spurs played against the Lakers, so I still need to read it fully. I did read some of those quotes that posters here put up on Spurstalk, and if Pop wasn't willing to trade LA unless he got a great talent like KD, then who would Pop be willing to trade Kawhi for? Pretty much no-one. He'd want Curry or KD IMO, and neither of those two are likely to happen. He might not even want either of them in exchange for Kawhi.

I'd assume the only way they trade Kawhi is if he demands it.

[phxspurfan]

Love it. All the homers on this site say Kawhi is easily #1-3 in the world. Yet people say he isn't worth the supermax. Make up your minds.

[Robz4000]

Y'all don't understand how damaging that super max contract is going to be to teams even starting next year. The salary cap is going to drop, maybe even into the $80mil range. Imagine a contract like that taking up more than half the capspace. Kawhi + scrubs (literal scrubs) is all this team could afford.

[ducks]

Leonard has more talent then David Robison did

[YGWHI]

Y'all don't understand how damaging that super max contract is going to be to teams even starting next year. The salary cap is going to drop, maybe even into the $80mil range. Imagine a contract like that taking up more than half the capspace. Kawhi + scrubs (literal scrubs) is all this team could afford.

1-Times have changed, the team should accept it.

2-Spurs way to go below the cap won't be sustainable in next years.

Russ, Harden, Curry all got supermax contracts in the summer, they have other teammates in max deals, and their teams are top in the West.

3-Supermax deals are an absolute abomination. But the league and most teams will find a way to survive like always.

A Kawhi's trade won't fix how things work in the market.

4- PATFO can't afford Parker/Patty/Pau type of contracts anymore. Elite teams don't pay their role players that much money.

[phxspurfan]

4- PATFO can't afford Parker/Patty/Pau type of contracts anymore. Elite teams don't pay their role players that much money.

This is the problem more than Kawhi. The Spurs FO know they ed up giving all that money to Pau and Patty. If they hit the market they either a. would have gotten smaller offers since the market dried up or b. would have left for the money and we would have replacement level players in their place who may not be former all stars or former finals heroes, but certainly younger and cheaper. The difference between a replacement level SG and Mills is not that big, and Pau's position in Today's NBA isn't even valued anymore. But to pay those guys and then lose Kawhi would be disastrous. You pay your star players, period. That or they get paid somewhere else and you end up with a team like the Bulls, Thuggets, Magic, Nets. Paying a bunch guys just above replacement level, star money

[Robz4000]

1-Times have changed, the team should accept it.

2-Spurs way to go below the cap won't be sustainable in next years.

Russ, Harden, Curry all got supermax contracts in the summer, they have other teammates in max deals, and their teams are top in the West.

3-Supermax deals are an absolute abomination. But the league and most teams will find a way to survive like always.

A Kawhi's trade won't fix how things work in the market.

4- PATFO can't afford Parker/Patty/Pau type of contracts anymore. Elite teams don't pay their role players that much money.

Two of those players are from large markets that have more money to spend, and the Thunder will be especially ed in two years. Spurs don't have that luxury; at the end of the day they're a business and they can't afford to go further into the red than they already are.

Don't disagree at all about the bad contracts, but they've already screwed themselves over with them.

Trading Kawhi can definitely net the Spurs some great assets. I wouldn't wanna see it happen but I can see the organization going that route.

[spurraider21]

Y'all don't understand how damaging that super max contract is going to be to teams even starting next year. The salary cap is going to drop, maybe even into the $80mil range. Imagine a contract like that taking up more than half the capspace. Kawhi + scrubs (literal scrubs) is all this team could afford.

better than the alternative which is those same scrubs plus some more role players. the spurs have less than a 0 chance to ring without kawhi for the next 5 years anyway

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Y'all don't understand how damaging that super max contract is going to be to teams even starting next year. The salary cap is going to drop, maybe even into the $80mil range. Imagine a contract like that taking up more than half the capspace. Kawhi + scrubs (literal scrubs) is all this team could afford.

None of these things are going to happen.

[Robz4000]

None of these things are going to happen.

The salary cap is definitely going to fall down from where it is now. That's been agreed upon by all salary cap experts. Spurs are also a small market team that is currently losing money. Do they trade Kawhi? Up for discussion. However, giving him the Supermax will not be good for the Spurs in the long term.

[YGWHI]

at the end of the day they're a business and they can't afford to go further into the red than they already are.

If they don't realize that in today NBA having a compe ive team is very expensive... Better they sell the team and keep their money safe.

Trading Kawhi can definitely net the Spurs some great assets.

No.

Kawhi's the 45th best-paid NBA player this year.
He is projected to be the 39th best-paid NBA player next year.

He's the 20th best-paid forward this year.
Projected to be the 20th best paid forward next year


So...There are 45 players in the league making more money than Kawhi, 20 of them are forwards. I wonder how the Spurs will sign talented guys with that money in the market.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

The salary cap is definitely going to fall down from where it is now. That's been agreed upon by all salary cap experts.

Really? Link? Latest news on the topic from Shams claims the opposite.

Do they trade Kawhi? Up for discussion. However, giving him the Supermax will not be good for the Spurs in the long term.

It'll be the best thing for the Spurs.

[Seventyniner]

So what if Kawhi's contract takes up half the cap? The same will end up being true of any team with a top 10 player once older contracts start rolling off. We will see more parity overall.

[Chinook]

So what if Kawhi's contract takes up half the cap? The same will end up being true of any team with a top 10 player once older contracts start rolling off. We will see more parity overall.

If Kawhi has a top-10 impact, that's all well and good. If he essentially loses this season to injuries, that's when it's not as cool. No player has a top-10 impact from the bench. The whole reason why the team could possibly hesitate is because of that. I fully expect the Spurs and Kawhi to get a contract done without difficulty, whether that be a supermax or something less. But I simply can't find a view of "Kawhi's injuries don't play into his value" credible. It's a serious thing, and I don't think waiting until he shows that he's out of the woods before committing more than $200 Million to be a bad strategy.

[Chinook]

The salary cap is definitely going to fall down from where it is now. That's been agreed upon by all salary cap experts. Spurs are also a small market team that is currently losing money. Do they trade Kawhi? Up for discussion. However, giving him the Supermax will not be good for the Spurs in the long term.

Really? Link? Latest news on the topic from Shams claims the opposite.



It'll be the best thing for the Spurs.

I don't think the cap contraction is definite, but it's certainly something to keep an eye on. ESPN is still hemorrhaging money, and I don't see them signing another huge deal. Considering how much of the market Disney controls and will control in the near future, them either backing off or cutting a lower deal would have a huge effect on the cap. Some will be supplemented by some online services, but no one seems willing to sign a huge enough deal to keep the cap up. I am not sure how the international television market works, but that might be another place to get money. And LP (at least in the States) is too ty to bank on. A flat cap seems like an optimistic projection.

[tp2021]

I saw the Spurs made an update 20 minutes ago.

‪"UPDATE: Kawhi Leonard (return from injury management) is out for today’s Spurs-Hawks game. Rudy Gay (right heel bursitis) remains out."

[YGWHI]

One day ago...

Kawhi: "I need to string games together"

This morning...

Kawhi: "It's an honor to play in MLK day"

Yeah...Keep f*cking doing this, Pop. Obviously it's a winning formula.

[rasuo214]

One day ago...

Kawhi: "I need to string games together"

This morning...

Kawhi: "It's an honor to play in MLK day"

Yeah...Keep f*cking doing this, Pop. Obviously it's a winning formula.

Proof that Pop is babying Kawhi, as if any one needed any.

Again these injury reports don't mean , so if anyone is planning on attending a game this season just be aware of this. Kawhi has been listed as probable several times and Pop has sat him, this time he wasn't even on the report and wanted to play and Pop still sits him.