Most likely yes, let's just hope Parker can swallow some of the huge pride and take significantly less to help the team.
if the cavs can't improve as the trade deadline gets closer, i wonder if they'd consider moving lebron. if they become convinced he's gonna bolt they'd get some haul over nothing. not that the spurs have that kind of assets (spurs wouldn't trade kawhi).
if the cavs roster stands pat and they lose again in the finals... lebron to the spurs isn't the craziest idea i've heard. especially in this warrior dominated climate. i wonder if it would be between us and houston.
Mills and parker for hill and carter.
keep your dvd of 2014 playoffs close by.
Kawhi for DJ, final offer.
LeBron has a no-trade clause and is definitely not going to waive it for anyone. If the goal is to go elsewhere to compete with the Warriors, why would he want to make his future destination worse by forcing them to trade assets for him?
Porker for DeMonkey, final offer.
Blake, DJ and a pick for KL??
No. At least with my trade, you'd get something in return when Kawhi goes to the Clippers. The alternative is getting nothing in return when Kawhi goes to the Clippers.
Lebron to Spurs is not far-fetched at all. The biggest issue is creating 30mil in cap space and still keeping his boy Danny Green.
If Lebron really wants to stick it to the Warriors he should sign with the Rockets or the Spurs for the league minimum for a year. He can easily live off of his endorsement money.
If he did it (not saying I think he would), it would only be for 1 year. He might do it for a 1 year experiment to challenge himself to accept having Pop as coach and boss and he just play ball . After the year is up, he goes somewhere where he would have the level of control he has grown used to.
Not when PATFO is paying Fatty Meals 50Mills for ting the bed.
i'd take carter, pass on hill.
didn't know he had a no trade clause.
I believe Georgie would bounce back strong if he were reunited with the Spurs. So, I would do this deal.
I also believe that PATFO will not want to re-up Tony. Asking him to take one (half a season) for the team as a farewell gesture might work.
I wish you were right sasaint.
Yet Tony has been talking about playing until he's 40 etc. What PATFO absolutely should not do is pay him a big salary if they re-up him. He's right now a veteran minimum player IMO the way he's playing and getting injured constantly.
He's in that stage of veterans who sign vet minimum contracts to play for a contender, like David West, David Lee, etc. Anyways, with his injury history and current production no one would pay him more. That is Tony's current value if he is going to be re-upped. If he has an indian summer in the playoffs like he did last season (b4 getting a season ending injury) then he's worth it, that is why you have vets like that. And if a youngin is playing better than him you play the youngin a fair amount of minutes.
Last edited by SAGirl; 01-17-2018 at 03:26 PM.
I wonder if the current state of the team with injuries will prompt a trade of some sort.
I’ve been thinking about this. It’s a good excuse to include Patty, imo.
Would be awesome if SA could get some extra picks, but with the injuries and playoff standings I don’t see them selling off parts for picks.
I think the injuries make them more stuck.
As strong as the emotional bond may be, PATFO will not want to re-sign a player who cannot deliver more than Tony currently does. The team desperately needs a PG who is 1) healthy and 2) can efficiently run an offense. If he could play good defense, that would be perfect. Right now the team doesn't have a single PG in their entire collection who fills that bill. If it is obvious to me then it is more than obvious to PATFO.
I hope that PATFO do something to shore up the position before the trade deadline, although I realistically don't think that will happen. I will not be surprised if PATFO does re-up Tony, but that can't possibly be something they want to do if they have the future good of the team in mind.
All of this is heavily dependent on Murray. If he shows signs of being able to run an offense and he improves his decision-making then the odds are that PATFO will re-up Tony as a safety net. But if Murray doesn't show consistent development toward becoming that PG, then PATFO will be forced to find somebody who can. As you said, it ain't Tony because he is barely a vet minimum caliber player at this point.
Thought process: Hill would be the best guard still and help defensively as well (in theory over Mills/TP). Murray would get more time at the 2 which helps offset the defensive loss with Danny (TP being moved would be better obviously). Then you add a good young big to the pipeline. Once with solid potential IMO.
With Kawhi out indefinitely again, your trade idea sounds even better.
Last edited by sasaint; 01-17-2018 at 06:42 PM.
With Kawhi injured the guard situation you describe is exposed even further.
But as we discussed: Kawhi's injury can have one of two effects:
1. it forces them to confront the problems they have with their PG situation... 5 PG and not one of them is really starter caliber.
2. or, they just tell themselves the team was built around Kawhi anyways... a PG wasn't meant to be that impactful with Kawhi handling the ball and commanding offensive possessions, while expanding his playmaking ability. and they stand pat.
Which one sounds like PATFO?
I do wonder if they want to make a trade this season to improve their situation. They are going through games getting meager production from both Tony and Patty and Patty especially, on top of being in yet another slump, is throwing the ball foolishly.
Murray isn't starting caliber this season and he won't be until he improves his offensive game. I am rooting for him, but he has to be better.
for real? he's been playing like ..
I agree that the latter scenario sounds like the PATFO that is so near and dear to ST, but even loyal-to-a-fault PATFO must recognize the indisputable facts at some point: neither 50Mills nor Tony is a PG who can lead a team to a championship - perhaps not even lead a team out of the first round.
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