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    Last week President Trump reportedly singled out Haiti, El Salvador and African nations as " hole countries" whose people were not the kind of immigrants the United States wanted. At the time, I happened to be in Serekunda, Gambia's largest urban area, as Trump's slur shocked people across Africa. The anger was palpable.

    Trump denied saying it, but the reports led to a cascade of swift condemnation, including a United Nations spokesman describing the president's comments as "racist." The African Union, an organization of 55 nations, expressed "outrage" and said it "strongly believes that there is a huge misunderstanding of the African continent and its people by the current [U.S.] administration."

    But as the fallout continues, there is something missing from the conversation: Trump's alleged vulgar insult comes at a time of strategic shift in Africa — toward China. In the past few weeks I have been on the ground in West Africa, and everywhere I have gone I have seen the presence of China.

    As America has become an increasingly unwelcoming place for young Africans, they look elsewhere in search of a better life. Last week I visited the Confucius Ins ute in Dakar, a huge building located on the grounds of Senegal's University of Dakar. I spent time with students from across Africa coming to learn Mandarin as a way to land a dream job in China or take a slice from the growing Chinese presence in every corner of the continent.

    In the past, they might have sought to study in Europe or the United States. But those places have put up barriers that make it tough to get student visas. Mamadou Fall, the director of the Dakar Confucius Ins ute, says that the roughly 500 students it teaches find it nearly impossible to get student visas to the U.S. or Europe. But China is happy to oblige them — it now offers Senegalese students free visas and offers 60 of the brightest students from the ins ute full scholarships to China each year.

    China's mammoth investment in infrastructure is a key part of its arsenal. As part of the One Belt, One Road strategy, the Chinese are building roads, ports, dams, railways and other infrastructure across Africa. These include a metro system in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, and a vital railway connecting landlocked Ethiopia's 100 million people to Djibouti's Red Sea port, where the Chinese plan to open their first military base outside China. In Kenya, they financed the biggest post-colonial infrastructure project in the country: a nearly $4 billion railway linking Nairobi with the country's main Indian Ocean port in Mombasa. China is also building a major train network in Nigeria.

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    https://www.npr.org/sections/paralle...loser-to-china

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    "reportedly"... get your facts straight first before claiming this and that. speculation built on lies is news these days i suppose.

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    btw they are hole countries

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    "reportedly"... get your facts straight first before claiming this and that. speculation built on lies is news these days i suppose.
    he didn't say it! trump wins!
    btw they are hole countries
    even if he said it, he's right. trump wins!

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    he didn't say it! trump wins!

    even if he said it, he's right. trump wins!
    i don't give a what trump wins or loses. he doesn't matter to me.

    i do give a when people like you play pretend and want the whole world to play with you. those countries are in fact holes by the definition whether or not trump said so.

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    i don't give a what trump wins or loses. he doesn't matter to me.

    i do give a when people like you play pretend and want the whole world to play with you. those countries are in fact holes by the definition whether or not trump said so.
    you claim not to give a but its been the common denominator of everything you've ever posted in this forum

    who has really disagreed with that, though? that's not even the point.

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    who has really disagreed with that, though? that's not even the point.
    that is the point. feelings... whether or not trump said " hole" shouldn't matter. we are all adults, right? so why is that word such a big deal especially when it describes those countries to a T? oh, because he's the president and shouldn't say such things and oh because we the far left want to turn the comment into some sort of race baiting bs like always. that's why!

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    wgas.

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    that is the point. feelings... whether or not trump said " hole" shouldn't matter. we are all adults, right? so why is that word such a big deal especially when it describes those countries to a T? oh, because he's the president and shouldn't say such things and oh because we the far left want to turn the comment into some sort of race baiting bs like always. that's why!
    yep.
    got snowflakes trying to make mountains out of molehills.
    we're victims

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    that is the point. feelings... whether or not trump said " hole" shouldn't matter. we are all adults, right? so why is that word such a big deal especially when it describes those countries to a T? oh, because he's the president and shouldn't say such things and oh because we the far left want to turn the comment into some sort of race baiting bs like always. that's why!
    calling the countries holes isnt the big deal. its the notion that we should curb immigration from those countries. its the notion that bringing an immigrant from norway is better than an immigrant from haiti. he claims to want "merit" based immigration but apparently thinks that being from norway is in itself, a merit.

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    calling the countries holes isnt the big deal. its the notion that we should curb immigration from those countries. its the notion that bringing an immigrant from norway is better than an immigrant from haiti. he claims to want "merit" based immigration but apparently thinks that being from norway is in itself, a merit.
    i say wall us in and everyone else outside our walls! make your god damn holes not holes and stay the out of our nation.

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    i say wall us in and everyone else outside our walls! make your god damn holes not holes and stay the out of our nation.
    but I'm not republican

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    i say wall us in and everyone else outside our walls! make your god damn holes not holes and stay the out of our nation.
    xen·o·pho·bi·a
    ˌzenəˈfōbēə,ˌzēnəˈfōbēə/
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    [COLOR=#878787 !important][/COLOR]

    • intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.






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    xen·o·pho·bi·a
    ˌzenəˈfōbēə,ˌzēnəˈfōbēə/
    noun
    [COLOR=#878787 !important][/COLOR]

    • intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.





    lol wrong word buddy... i am in no fear of others from differing countries. i am sick of the handouts when i see our citizens in need. we don't need more people here. them and their holes!

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    LMAO koriwhat's Avatar
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    btw spurraider, i don't need you spewing some dumb ing word you just learned during the 2016 election.

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    but I'm not republican
    i'm not. i am just sick of you far leftys thinking the USA is a stomping ground for whoever the wants to come here whether or not they are going to contribute or just feel en led.

    i sat in enough VA hospitals to know our own people are hurting and we don't need to be the world's savior.

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    " everyone else outside our walls" seems like an irrational dislike of people from other countries... you fit the bill tbh

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    " everyone else outside our walls" seems like an irrational dislike of people from other countries... you fit the bill tbh
    i don't dislike those out of this country. i just don't think we need to be the world's boiling pot nor its police. let their hole countries take care of them and they can work to make their holes great again.

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    " everyone else outside our walls" seems like an irrational dislike of people from other countries... you fit the bill tbh
    btw, how many people have you taken into your house to feed, clothe, and provide a roof over their heads? how many times have you volunteered to help the unfortunate? if i had to lay odds on it you're nothing more than a FB prayer and an ice bucket challenge away from being one of the biggest losers in the SJW arena.

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    if africa is a hole country then america and china both need to stay the out and stop raping it of its natural resources.

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    if africa is a hole country then america and china both need to stay the out and stop raping it of its natural resources.
    The ing truth.

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    if africa is a hole country then america and china both need to stay the out and stop raping it of its natural resources.
    resources don't make a country not a hole. look at venezuela.

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    btw, how many people have you taken into your house to feed, clothe, and provide a roof over their heads? how many times have you volunteered to help the unfortunate? if i had to lay odds on it you're nothing more than a FB prayer and an ice bucket challenge away from being one of the biggest losers in the SJW arena.
    that's about as much of a white flag as there is when it comes to online forums

    but hey, i've taken an immigrant into my home when i married her . i've done plenty of volunteer work too, most recently having worked at the low income taxpayer clinic for legal aid

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    resources don't make a country not a hole. look at venezuela.
    how is africa a hole then? beautiful people, culture, natural resources, land. i will admit europeans and now china, have raped the continent for far too long and stunted its growth rather than helping.

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    how is africa a hole then? beautiful people, culture, natural resources, land. i will admit europeans and now china, have raped the continent for far too long and stunted its growth rather than helping.
    standard of living tbh

    infant mortality rate, etc

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