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    What are you referring to here?

    I'm talking about months before Murray got injured. He started a few games and played well. I don't remember him getting an injury at that point. Parker came back and he was benched without any court time. I don't see a good reason for it. His confidence was sky high at that point. I don't feel there was any reason to bench him and not give him court time to see what he could do. If he failed, then he would have been humbled and could have worked on what he needed to improve on.
    He had four straight games that he started. Played well against both Denver and Cleveland, and was turnover and foul prone in the next two. He continued to see spot minutes until late February, when he started getting more time again before getting hurt.

    I wish Pop had gotten him more playing time too before the injury, but he was rarely a DNP. He'll undoubtedly be getting his playing time this year. I actually think Pop liked what he saw in Patty/Parker lineups for spurts (3-4 minutes a half) so once Parker returns, don't think that means Murray's minutes get hit as much.

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    What the...?!?!?! Not olé defense, but OLÉ defense...

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    What the...?!?!?! Not olé defense, but OLÉ defense...

    There is so much to say about that video... first of all why is he screaming????
    then, what was he doing there guarding a guy at the 3pt line?
    it was just ridiculous...

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    There is so much to say about that video... first of all why is he screaming????
    then, what was he doing there guarding a guy at the 3pt line?
    it was just ridiculous...
    Yeah, that video is a real scream...

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    There is so much to say about that video... first of all why is he screaming????
    then, what was he doing there guarding a guy at the 3pt line?
    it was just ridiculous...
    lol, didn't you mention his screaming/yelling/shouting on defense last night. Funny that a video pops up showing him do it in a super pronounced way the very next day. I thought you were exaggerating his screaming on defense just a little bit, but it appears you were right on the money.

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    Ball don't lie on Gasol

    Dude is now in that Varejao phase where his sole use is to flop around

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    I feel a little bit sick. this is definitely the worst offseason I can remember and there is no hope that the Spurs will contend for a le in the next 3 years

    I won't blame Kawhi for leaving
    wow I don't remember posting that but...

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    A disgrace.

    This is the worst off season in the Robinson+ era.

    They're a first round loser and won't have the cap room to improve, because they're locking up 30% of the cap in non starters.

    Pathetic.

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    Not only he's proven to be unplayable in 2 straight playoffs, but this got has apparently checked out a long time ago just because he isn't starting anymore..

    One of the most disgusting Spur careers ever. (If you take money in consideration)..

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    this is depressing.



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    I don't know if it's just a matter of being old and I'm reading too much into it, but his body language and effort on the court has looked really bad for a long ing time..

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    The are Pop and Buford doing?
    Still trying to figure out.

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    Pau has always been about money. He’s proven that. Doesn’t make him a bad guy, but he got paid by SA. He doesn’t care anymore and he’s washed up as well as far as being a consistent contributor.

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    Trade. This. . Please. Thibs will prolly take him.

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    Like I said I understand some loyalty to Mills, but to a TOSB mercenary who turned you down in 2014?

    The were they thinking..

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    I'll tell you what the Spurs thought, they thought he could approximate what an old Tim Duncan could do, but they were dead wrong.

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    Spurs probably thought that if they paid him well for being a crybaby, maybe he's brother would give them priority when his contract is up with Memphis

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    The funny thing is Pau had a higher PER (18.9), Win Shares (6), Win Shares Per 48 (.159), BPM (3.2) and VORP (2.4) than Manu yet people say Manu had the great season.

    It’s interesting.

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    Pau has always been about money. He’s proven that. Doesn’t make him a bad guy, but he got paid by SA. He doesn’t care anymore and he’s washed up as well as far as being a consistent contributor.
    People on RealGM think he still has positive value. I hope the real GMs think the same way. Pau isn't a Jefferson-level anchor, but he's close.

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    The funny thing is Pau had a higher PER (18.9), Win Shares (6), Win Shares Per 48 (.159), BPM (3.2) and VORP (2.4) than Manu yet people say Manu had the great season.

    It’s interesting.
    Pau's advanced metrics from January to April are ing horrible

    Him and Danny had really strong starts to the season that kept their overall metrics much more respectable than their actual impact for the entire season..

    Manu was really bad for like 2 months of the season, though..he looked finished in January..

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    The funny thing is Pau had a higher PER (18.9), Win Shares (6), Win Shares Per 48 (.159), BPM (3.2) and VORP (2.4) than Manu yet people say Manu had the great season.

    It’s interesting.
    Manu is making 15 less millions per year. I wouldn't mind Pau for 2.5 millions per year, one bit.

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    Pau's advanced metrics from January to April are ing horrible

    Him and Danny had really strong starts to the season that kept their overall metrics much more respectable than their actual impact for the entire season..

    Manu was really bad for like 2 months of the season, though..he looked finished in January..
    Sure, I agree, but even with a large part of the season tanking for Pau it didn’t sabotage the numbers overall for him as a regular season minutes soaker...

    Manu, finished as a below average to negative player (not as bad as TP obviously but not overall very good over a replacement level player).

    I love Manu and hate Pau - just talking about overall perception.

    Even when you look at these playoffs statistically (small sample I know), it looks the same.

    Pau: PER 17, Win Shares .2, Win Shares Per 48 .131, BPM .1, VORP 0

    Manu: PER 14.6, Win Shares .1, Win Shares Per 48 .04, BPM 2.1, VORP .1

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    If SA can jettison Pau and Mills and give up just one first that would be big. Hopefully Mills playoffs played him into a value asset which is definitley possible.

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    Sure, I agree, but even with a large part of the season tanking for Pau it didn’t sabotage the numbers overall for him as a regular season minutes soaker...

    Manu, finished as a below average to negative player (not as bad as TP obviously but not overall very good over a replacement level player).

    I love Manu and hate Pau - just talking about overall perception.

    Even when you look at these playoffs statistically (small sample I know), it looks the same.

    Pau: PER 17, Win Shares .2, Win Shares Per 48 .131, BPM .1, VORP 0

    Manu: PER 14.6, Win Shares .1, Win Shares Per 48 .04, BPM 2.1, VORP .1
    Bringing the Manu/Pau comparisson when one makes 7 times more money per year than the other.

    If Pau's salaray wasn't such a handicap on the team's offseason aspirations nobody would give a about Pau. He's fine as the backup center. Just not at that price.

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