Kiwi now has a "chilling" relationship with the Sp*rs FO?

[JFK]

But they are not saying there is a rift because of moves that were made. They are saying there is a rift due to the handling of his injury. All this talk about him being mad at moves that were made is just talk.

Oh no, I'm not saying that is the reason Kawhi is mad. May not be mad at the moves at all, and in fact I believe he is consulted on moves and is on board with them. That is just my opinion.

I do believe something is not right between Leonard and the front office. I know the guy is a compe or and is pissed he can't go out there and play. The NBA is trash now and as bad as the Spurs have been, compared to previous versions, they are still around the top in the conference.

[bklynspursfan]

But they are not saying there is a rift because of moves that were made. They are saying there is a rift due to the handling of his injury. All this talk about him being mad at moves that were made is just talk.

Yup. Has absolutely nothing to do with the roster construction re: Kawhi.

[illusioNtEk]

trade now or loose him for nothing... ship patty and gasol with him and we have a great start to rebuild.

Let's not blame Pop or RC on this you guys... Patty not playing like he used to. Last year he is worth 13 mill a year but now not even worth it...

A lot of young talent coming into the league... let's rebuild!!

[DPG21920]

You think other GMs won't be smelling blood the first time RC includes Leonard in a call?

Dude. Look, if SA wanted to trade Kawhi they would get a ton. The other teams would have no leverage. The leverage would be SA saying to them: “Oh you want to d*ck around and try to low ball me? Cool, no Kawhi Leonard for you and good luck on selling your fanbase that you had a chance at a top 5 player and lost out because you tried to get cute because believe me we will make sure that the report gets out. In addition to that, I have 28 other teams on the line so I will be sure to trade him to your biggest compe or and ensure you never have a shot at winning as well”.

[JFK]

In this day in age, why aren't there any reporters asking the right goddamn questions?

Is Kawhi living in a cave? What the ?

I'm sure there are tens of thousands of people interested in this.

Could be just frustration with his inability to get on the court, but some direct interaction is needed.

the San Antonio press and the beat writers for the Spurs here are scared of Popovich and the organization. You don't go into the Corleone compound and make demands of the godfather. He will kill you and your family.

The local press is a joke and will never hold this team accountable or question them over anything they do. That is both TV and print. However, I have heard some radio guys criticize them, but oh look...they get taken off the air after.

[dbreiden83080]

Alright then. Wow, it seems like the Spurs ed up, and we now have confirmation the injury was from last season and didn't just happen during this off-season, or is Don Harris not worth trusting? I always thought their trainers and medical staff weren't that great.

Still if the injury is from last year it is insane it did not heal up this off-season. I have not even really heard of this type of thing before. You have 4 months off, you get healthy. Nobody comes into training camp with an injury and no real explanation as to WTH happened other than

"Wear and Tear"

[Hoops Czar]

Still if the injury is from last year it is insane it did not heal up this off-season. I have not even really heard of this type of thing before. You have 4 months off, you get healthy. Nobody comes into training camp with an injury and no real explanation as to WTH happened other than

"Wear and Tear"

Tendonopathy is chronic snd sometimes degenerative. Those types of injuries don't tend to heal.

[dbreiden83080]

Dude. Look, if SA wanted to trade Kawhi they would get a ton. The other teams would have no leverage. The leverage would be SA saying to them: “Oh you want to d*ck around and try to low ball me? Cool, no Kawhi Leonard for you and good luck on selling your fanbase that you had a chance at a top 5 player and lost out because you tried to get cute because believe me we will make sure that the report gets out. In addition to that, I have 28 other teams on the line so I will be sure to trade him to your biggest compe or and ensure you never have a shot at winning as well”.

They would get very little right now actually.. The word is obviously out that he is highly injury prone. It is all on him next year to log the minutes and play at the level he did last year. No GM would mortgage picks and good starters on a guy that may not even play 15 games this year..

[dbreiden83080]

Tendonopathy is chronic snd sometimes degenerative. Those types of injuries don't tend to heal.

Docs were saying it should heal up.. Not yet anyway..

[DPG21920]

I would not want to be Michael Wright

That dude is about to come up missing. Pop and RC are not about that loose lips life. Consider his access revoked.

[vy65]

Is there a bigger repudiation of culture than your star player having a reported "chilling relationship" with the front office? Isn't that the exact sort of thing culture is supposed to prevent from happening?

[bklynspursfan]

I would not want to be Michael Wright

That dude is about to come up missing. Pop and RC are not about that loose lips life. Consider his access revoked.

He hasn't tweeted yet today

[ElNono]

Stories like these don't come out unless one or the other side want it to come out, tbh...

Obviously, it takes somebody the size of Woj to shine a light on it. Meanwhile, Jeff McDonald is interviewing the Coyote in the Spurs' youth camp.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Jalen Rose on his podcast:


Jalen says something like “don’t believe the news, Kawhi is staying with the Spurs.”

Jalen says “Do not believe the rumors that he’s not happy in San Antonio, he’s not sitting out to prove a point. The gentleman is really injured.”

[DPG21920]

We will know a lot more this Summer. If Kawhi doesn’t sign the extension it will be time to panic.

[baseline bum]

Dude. Look, if SA wanted to trade Kawhi they would get a ton. The other teams would have no leverage. The leverage would be SA saying to them: “Oh you want to d*ck around and try to low ball me? Cool, no Kawhi Leonard for you and good luck on selling your fanbase that you had a chance at a top 5 player and lost out because you tried to get cute because believe me we will make sure that the report gets out. In addition to that, I have 28 other teams on the line so I will be sure to trade him to your biggest compe or and ensure you never have a shot at winning as well”.

If by ton you mean they'd get a ton of halfway decent players then yes. If you mean getting any real talent, good luck with that. Leonard can walk anywhere he wants in 2019 so unless you trade him to his desired destination everyone is going to be afraid of offering too much for a rental.

[DPG21920]

Stories like these don't come out unless one or the other side want it to come out, tbh...

Obviously, it takes somebody the size of Woj to shine a light on it. Meanwhile, Jeff McDonald is interviewing the Coyote in the Spurs' youth camp.

For sure, but there can be a mul ude of reasons why these stories leak. Sometimes (think Lavar Ball vs Lonzo) the source has an agenda that is not the same as the player even though that person may be close to the person.

I think it’s a combo of Kawhi having nothing else in life besides basketball and he’s not playing so he’s going crazy. I also think some of this could be angling for the SuperMax and letting everyone know that Kawhi won’t be taking less due to his injury history.

Who knows. More to come I’m sure. But when Kawhi signs his extension fans will crawl back into their caves until they can bash SA again.

That does not mean there is not legit friction; but like I’ve tried to explain it’s normal. Every franchise deals with this. SA and us as fans have been shielded from the “real world” due to Tim.

[DPG21920]

If by ton you mean they'd get a ton of halfway decent players then yes. If you mean getting any real talent, good luck with that. Leonard can walk anywhere he wants in 2019 so unless you trade him to his desired destination everyone is going to be afraid of offering too much for a rental.

They would get real talent. Because he’s under contract for another year after this one and the teams that would really want him don’t have the cap space to sign him if he hits FA without a ton of mortgaging.

[baseline bum]

I also think some of this could be angling for the SuperMax and letting everyone know that Kawhi won’t be taking less due to his injury history.

I hope that's what this is. A player like Kawhi doesn't come around often, so the Spurs are going to have to offer supermax unless he misses next season too.

[DPG21920]

I wonder if this is starting to wear on Pop. He’s old and been around and now with Tim gone will he want to deal with normal stars and all the drama?

This may be the signal that Pop will be moving on sooner rather than later but who knows. Maybe he will coach out his full contract.

[sasaint]

Is there a bigger repudiation of culture than your star player having a reported "chilling relationship" with the front office? Isn't that the exact sort of thing culture is supposed to prevent from happening?

If the shortcomings of culture are exposed, that essentially undermines PATFO. If chill turns to acrimony, Kawhi could possibly be the guy that brought the house down.

[DAF86]

I wonder if this is starting to wear on Pop. He’s old and been around and now with Tim gone will he want to deal with normal stars and all the drama?

This may be the signal that Pop will be moving on sooner rather than later but who knows. Maybe he will coach out his full contract.

You keep repeating that as if Duncan hadn't had normal star drama back on his days.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Stories like these don't come out unless one or the other side want it to come out, tbh...

Obviously, it takes somebody the size of Woj to shine a light on it. Meanwhile, Jeff McDonald is interviewing the Coyote in the Spurs' youth camp.

[TheDoctor]

If the shortcomings of culture are exposed, that essentially undermines PATFO. If chill turns to acrimony, Kawhi could possibly be the guy that brought the house down.

#AnawhiSkywalker

[Spur|n|Austin]

I wonder if this is starting to wear on Pop. He’s old and been around and now with Tim gone will he want to deal with normal stars and all the drama?

This may be the signal that Pop will be moving on sooner rather than later but who knows. Maybe he will coach out his full contract.

Though I could see him ready to be done soon, what would he do until the olympics? Just couldn't see him taking a break then jumping back into it to coach the olympics. I feel like when he's done, he'll be done for good.