Tim never had his mind made up that he was definitely leaving. He was enticed by the idea of playing alongside Grant Hill. Certainly at that time because Hill was a great player that was an obvious enticement. At the end of the day he spoke to pop and David Robinson and stayed. That’s it.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/12/nba-...ake-tim-duncanformer Spurs forward Bruce Bowen, who claims that Tim Duncan was all set to join up with Hill and McGrady in Orlando back in 2000 before Doc Rivers, who was Orlando’s coach at the time, made a crucial mistake that changed the NBA landscape for the next decade…
You think he knows how to read his bank statements?
Duncan was a iron man during his first 6 years of the league compared to Kawhi. I calculated the percentage of games Duncan played in and it turned out to be 98 percent while Kawhi played 83 percent during his first 6 years. I also didn't factor in this season but I have feeling that number will drop down to somewhere in the 70's after this season. 83 percent is not bad but Duncan was just on another level when it came to durability. I still remember him wanting to play with his torn meniscus during the '00 playoffs but Pop wouldn't allow it. I felt Duncan was deranged that you would literally have to cut off his legs ISIS style for him not to play.
You take certain quotes way to literally dude. Tim never once said that his mind was all made up. This was even covered during the interview after the 2014 championship. Tony asked him about this on Camera and Tim said it was simply him going back-and-forth talking to pop about all of his options. He never had his mind totally made up. Get over it.
I don't know. The only literal quote I remember from Duncan about this is when he said "he was a lot closer than most people realize".
P/S: telling me to "get over it" when you are the one that felt the need to quote that comment again, 6 hours later.
Will KL deny this chill?
You seem to take this as some kind of a character flaw or something on the part of Tim? I’m not understanding what the problem is here? He was a free agent that considered his options. What exactly is your beef?I don't know. The only literal quote I remember from Duncan about this is when he said "he was a lot closer than most people realize".
P/S: telling me to "get over it" when you are the one that felt the need to quote that comment again, 6 hours later.
No beef with Duncan, that was perfectly fine to do. I'm just saying that those moments were indeed "dramatic" for the Spurs front office. I'm sure that a lot more dramatic than this rumour about Kawhi.
I would think this is far more dramatic because KL health has suddenly become a major concern. Tim’s health was never a major concern. The Spurs have to decide if Leonard is worth a serious financial investment. He could conceivably play in less than 10 games this season.
But Kawhi's injury concerns aren't something that Kawhi can control, so it's re ed to put that on him. That isn't part of any "normal star drama". The fear of your franchise player bolting for another team is.
There was never any star drama with him. A free agent that considers his options is simply that a free agent. It happens basically 100 times out of 100 times. Deciding whether not to give an injury prone player a ridiculous amount of money. That is serious ing drama. Tim Duncan is one of the toughest players to ever put on a ing uniform. He played through insane pain and nobody ever questioned his toughness. People are seriously questioning the toughness of this particular player in question. I am questioning it. Because Tim Duncan does not go to the organization and say that my quad is bothering me and I can’t play. This man needed knee surgery and wanted to play in the playoffs at one time.
You seem really interested on making Duncan sound flawless and Kawhi like a ing problem, tbh.
To me Duncan and Kawhi are the same, two superstars that escape the norm and prefer to lay low, be out of the spotlight and stay drama free. We're lucky to have had them both.
I honestly don’t think the Spurs have handled it well at all. Why in the past year or so has Pop been so prioritized with LMA. Get this in joke out of SA. I guarantee you Kawhi doesn’t mind the guards as much as he does LMA and his whiny personality who quits in the playoffs. Move on from that guy. Pop probably just keeps telling Kawhi “it’s basketball, we’ll make it work”. I have said and will continue to say not landing Kyrie is one of the biggest mistakes the Spurs have ever made, and they definitely could’ve had him over Boston. But but but we can’t give up on LMA and trade him like he WANTS because it’ll look bad on the organization so we’ll start running a offense just to keep LMA happy and not worry about driving Kawhi out of San Antonio. Most pathetic team I’ve watched all year, if we notice it do you think Kawhi doesn’t? Somebody please go throw some baby powder on their hand and b**ch slap Pop so he’ll wake up.
I have never once heard the Spurs were thinking about trading Kawhi last summer. Coming off the WCF, two 60 win seasons, and with KL's star still ascending? Why would you start over? I don't buy that then even more than I don't buy that now.
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Duncan is a once in a generation type of player/leader/teammate but lets be fair Pop/RC are also quite different than they were 15 years ago. They've become a bit complacent, they've put a greater focus on loyalty than before (which is fine as long as it isn't to the detriment of the team's success; think Patty and Pau) and bought into the system hype as the solution to their problems. Plus Pop's ego has grown quite a bit and he continually gets distracted with off the court disputes about the President or other BS.
Stephen Asshole Smith lacks any shred of credibility. That’s why no one gave a about his bull .
Pop admitted just recently about Aldridge wanting to be traded. People dismissed the idea back then. Could be the same for Kawhi. Just sayin.
All that crap about planets and Trump is Poop’s way of deflecting attention away from the fact that his meddling has been detrimental to the team. We’ll hear more non-basketball diatribe from that pockmarked hypocrite as his overrated system is being exposed more and more.
WTF, that is weird if true. Is he sitting out games for a reason (to see how the team performs without him), or are the doctors/trainers/surgeons/physiotherapists all missing something?
made up drame with nothing behind to back it up
both FO and Kawhi are frustrated about the freak injury then usual discussion happen about following franchise doc protocol vs. following advice of personnal meds and staff then BS rumors start about chilling relationships
at the end, Spurs will give Kawhi his max contract and we have a new ST scola thread in the making for nothing
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