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    The thing is Murray has been working on that a lot. It is well do ented. Sometimes hard work alone is not enough. He’s putting in the work just have to hope he can become a competent shooter.
    Being a great shooter is mostly about feel and touch, not just technique and repe ion like some posters here seem to think. Some people don't have that feel or touch and no matter how much they practice, they just can't get good or consistent at it. I hope Murray can. I think you can still become a pretty good shooter if you learn the correct technique and also put in the work via repe ion, but I don't think you can be a great shooter without any feel for it.

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    While I don't think DJ played that "well lately" -this Cavs game sure but the rest of games..IDK- I trust Pop what he sees on him.

    I wonder what we will say about this move in April. "Pop f*cking senile " or "Pop's a basketball genius"
    If Kawhi is not playing and there’s a chance he’s not ready to play by the playoffs (since they don’t know Kawhis body) it’s irresponsible to go through the season playing the old guys and not developing. Even if they were to work a trade up at some point in the summer their young assets are devalued if they aren’t playing. I don’t think it’s about a trade, personally but from any perspective you think about it the irresponsible is to stand pat and on top of it not develop their best assets.

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    Keep throwing the kid in the fire Pop. Just like Tony got developed. Start him, pull him out for any and all mistakes and chew his ass on the spot, and then throw him back in...

    Should have been doing this all season - Tony's injury was a perfect opportunity. Fact is Mills is not a starting PG, and Tony is too old. We need to either make Murray a starter-level PG, or find out he is not, and go get one...

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    Murray hasn't played so well lately tho, that's what made it an odd thing to do now. All the PGs have been in a funk.

    Thus far, TP has done well in his new role, and Murray showed something last night. I just wish he played every team like they were the Cavs. The potential is there, there's no doubt about it. Some fundamental things need work, but he's gotta put in the time/work. Dribbling/mid range jumper mainly imo
    If you are talking about shooting... none of the PG were shooting well. Happy that Tony had a renaissance flashback game but for the previous 10 games he was shooting very poorly. The Spurs clawed back from big deficits on the back of defense and hustle plays where Dijon excelled. They couldn’t get enough buckets bc others like Aldridge underperformed too and shooters were off.

    Considering the PG situation he had the best impact on games of the 3 bc the other two are supposedly better offensively but for a long stretch of games had not been playing/scoring well themselves.

    The iden y of this team has been in flux and IMO Pop has gone with defense, plus as I said elsewhere its irresponsible to not develop considering the team situation.

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    Another thing he needs to work on is his ball handling. He dribbles a little too high and looks down from time to time. With time, coaching, and experience he’ll get better at it.
    Think he’s not confident with his left hand either. He always wants to go right. I think with his quickness if he had better handles he could get anywhere but sometimes lanes are closed to him and he doesn’t change direction or hand dribble. He needs work that’s for sure. But the offense goes through Aldridge a lot so he is not exposed every possession.

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    Keep throwing the kid in the fire Pop. Just like Tony got developed. Start him, pull him out for any and all mistakes and chew his ass on the spot, and then throw him back in...

    Should have been doing this all season - Tony's injury was a perfect opportunity. Fact is Mills is not a starting PG, and Tony is too old. We need to either make Murray a starter-level PG, or find out he is not, and go get one...
    Exactly. This is what is about I think.

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    I know the Cavs' D has been terrible this year, but TP and DJ had an excellent combined stat line. When/If Kawhi and Rudy Gay come back, that makes our starting lineup:

    Dejounte, Verde, , , and Pau

    And our bench:
    Tony/Patty/Manu/Rudy/Davis

    I think our bench will be unbelievable.

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    I know the Cavs' D has been terrible this year, but TP and DJ had an excellent combined stat line. When/If Kawhi and Rudy Gay come back, that makes our starting lineup:

    Dejounte, Verde, , , and Pau

    And our bench:
    Tony/Patty/Manu/Rudy/Davis

    I think our bench will be unbelievable.
    Unbelievably bad at defense you mean.



    Ps your forgot joff

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    I know the Cavs' D has been terrible this year, but TP and DJ had an excellent combined stat line. When/If Kawhi and Rudy Gay come back, that makes our starting lineup:

    Dejounte, Verde, , , and Pau

    And our bench:
    Tony/Patty/Manu/Rudy/Davis

    I think our bench will be unbelievable.
    I don't know how you leave him out... but in my mind there is no way Kyle is not playing.

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    Pop was a little bit too frank there.

    Murray is going to get a regular 25-30 minutes for the remaining 30 games so they can take a final stock of him. This is why I don't expect them to be active on the Kemba Walker front until after the end of the season (assuming the Hornets don't deal him before the deadline).

    Between the injuries cop-out and their internal Murray hype, it is hard to see them make a shake-up move of this kind mid-season.
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    Should've been doing this all season. Murray is going to benefit from real playing time, not Toros / bench time. Some guys learn in training, since guys learn on the job.

    Coach his mistakes, but don't neuter him. Let him find his groove by not benching him full quarters or games.

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    I don't know how you leave him out... but in my mind there is no way Kyle is not playing.

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    I understand it's been just by injuries coincidence, but I loved not only the DJM choice over tp but more than this the idea of a front court of LMa and Bertans.
    Imho they complement each other well with their skills and Bertans has shown he can make some baskets in the paint too.
    Once everyone is healty, In think the best starting five could be
    DJM Green Kiwi Bertans Lma
    and our bench
    Tp Manu Kyle Gay Gasol

    The little guys (Forbes, White, Mills and Paul) can enter the game in special situations for

    enhance the speed of the game and make fast points (Mills)
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    play a more controlled pace (White) with a reliable offensive guard that plays a good not up tempo offense (Forbes)
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    play more defense in the back court (Paul)

    Jolo enters just in case of needing to bolster the front line...

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    Didnt pop start Delonte to stqrt the season but dude sucked so he switched to Fatty?

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    Parker is averaging 13.5pts and 5.5ast in 19 minutes so far as the 6th man

    Crazy what playing against backups does for players.....

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    I'm all for Dejounte starting but we've got a pretty serious logjam at the PG spot. We can't have Parker/Mills/Forbes playing together off the bench. PATFO needs to make some moves.

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    Just seeing his demeanor in his post game interview with Dennis Scott say's a lot about Murray. He's confident in himself that's for sure

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    I'm all for Dejounte starting but we've got a pretty serious logjam at the PG spot. We can't have Parker/Mills/Forbes playing together off the bench. PATFO needs to make some moves.
    Or just get Manu, Rudy and Kawhi healthy.

    Once the three are healthy, only a consistent role for Tony will be there. Mills and Forbes should be the odd men out.

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    Or just get Manu, Rudy and Kawhi healthy.

    Once the three are healthy, only a consistent role for Tony will be there. Mills and Forbes should be the odd men out.
    12 millions for someone qualifying as an odd man out ..

    An utter disgusting contract, tbh..

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    I'm all for Dejounte starting but we've got a pretty serious logjam at the PG spot. We can't have Parker/Mills/Forbes playing together off the bench. PATFO needs to make some moves.
    Something that other posters have been pointing out for a long time but it finally became a reality.

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    Should've been doing this all season. Murray is going to benefit from real playing time, not Toros / bench time. Some guys learn in training, since guys learn on the job.

    Coach his mistakes, but don't neuter him. Let him find his groove by not benching him full quarters or games.

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    12 millions for someone qualifying as an odd man out ..

    An utter disgusting contract, tbh..
    Yeah they the bed with that contract. There's no excuse around it. Just horrible in so many different levels. Should have been a 2+1 team option deal at the absolute worst.

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    Didnt pop start Delonte to stqrt the season but dude sucked so he switched to Fatty?
    yup... that happened but Mills obviously wasn't good enough either, and Delonte is a young buck that really has had minutes up and down, lineups up and down, and has had a few good games. He is so young that it's a fair strategy to find out what he really has.

    Hopefully he can hold that spot this time. If not, then the Spurs will know that for sure they need a trade.

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    12 millions for someone qualifying as an odd man out ..

    An utter disgusting contract, tbh..
    I have been thinking at times, Pop will make Danny the odd man out.

    His love for the ... well I don't want to use pejorative terms bc it's not my style... but his love for Patty knows no bounds at this point.

    Patty will play. I figure short leashes will apply to Danny. (Dejounte himself and Kyle as well, but to a lesser degree if they really want to develop Dejounte and Kyle is bound to have short minutes anyways.)

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