Jalen Rose: Kawhi Wants out of SA

[mudyez]

Probably will turn out like my last girlfriend. She broke up in 2014 and then was held hostage by a wannabe.

[cjw]

15 million for Parker. 11 million for the fat aborogine. That's over a quarter of the salary cap for 2 crap point guards who aren't even starters. A 40 year old is our best SG. No backup bigs. We'll done front office, well done. Why would Kawhi wanna play for this terribly constructed team.

The Spurs operates over the cap last summer and opted to run it back + add Gay vs. tearing it down and chasing a FA that likely wasn’t going to come. Heck, they had flexibility when Gasol opted out but nothing panned out during the moratorium. The Mills deal was an overpay as was the Gasol one. But Gasol has been very good this year and it frankly doesn’t matter what either got paid this year because of them being capped out. It does impact future years though.

Parker deal is expiring after this year and likely comes back cheaper. Murray is on a bargain rookie contract so offsets the bad money going to Mills.

Manu has been outstanding this year, so false argument to blame his success for what you perceive as a failure in roster construction. Green is a super valuable piece and any team would kill to have him at his price tag. Green-Manu-Forbes is probably the best bang for buck at SG in the league.

Agree on the lack of backup big. They swung and missed on Joff. But it matters a lot less in playoffs as you’ll see mostly Gay/Bertans/Anderson types at the 4.

[r0drig0lac]

I saw him clapping quite a bit actually. Watch the highlight tape of the game in the game thread. He was pretty supportive for a robot, tbh.

qft

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Oh, so the Spurs, an organization known for being overly cautious with injuries, misdiagnosed an injury and doubled down on it to the point where Kawhi sought out a second opinion that said it was more severe than the Spurs were letting on. Got it.

Posters here are making up literally anything just to be able to on the Spurs. The last two Kawhi threads are just like a game thread where the Spurs go in a -10 hole by the end of the first quarter

[tholdren]

The end goal is to win les for them and they've done it. If the Spurs don't win a le you'd blame him for it.

As i should. Supposedly best player on the team that did not come through. I have the same feelings about robinson. Robinson wss better, surrounded with less, still played soft. Difference, if this is true, he would not cry.

[duncan2k5]

As i should. Supposedly best player on the team that did not come through. I have the same feelings about robinson. Robinson wss better, surrounded with less, still played soft. Difference, if this is true, he would not cry.

Kawhi was the alpha for only 2 years...2016 and 2017...2016 Pop played cute by playing him limited minutes and ended up losing...also he didnt play Boban although David Lee and co. were getting HAMMERED on the boards by the thunder...that was on Pop...Durant wasnt ...

Last year we would have won a chip if it werent for Zaza

[szkorhetz]

Kawhi was the alpha for only 2 years...2016 and 2017...2016 Pop played cute by playing him limited minutes and ended up losing...also he didnt play Boban although David Lee and co. were getting HAMMERED on the boards by the thunder...that was on Pop...Durant wasnt ...

Last year we would have won a chip if it werent for Zaza

[Phenomanul]

Kawhi wasn't much of a cheerleader on the bench tonight. Mostly sulking. As a body language expert, I can tell you this bodes badly for Spurs nation.

Fake news.

I was at the game. Kawhi was more exuberant than normal. He would walk up to the huddle, have words with Dejounte. He encouraged Bertans. He was laughing with Danny. He was hi-fiving Lamarcus...

EDIT: Also he and LeBron had about a 2 minute conversation before tip-off - they were really respectful of each other, lots of laughs, appreciative hugs, etc...

[Keepin' it real]

Fake news.

I was at the game. Kawhi was more exuberant than normal. He would walk up to the huddle, have words with Dejounte. He encouraged Bertans. He was laughing with Danny. He was hi-fiving Lamarcus...

EDIT: Also he and LeBron had about a 2 minute conversation before tip-off - they were really respectful of each other, lots of laughs, appreciative hugs, etc...

[bklynspursfan]

Fake news.

I was at the game. Kawhi was more exuberant than normal. He would walk up to the huddle, have words with Dejounte. He encouraged Bertans. He was laughing with Danny. He was hi-fiving Lamarcus...

EDIT: Also he and LeBron had about a 2 minute conversation before tip-off - they were really respectful of each other, lots of laughs, appreciative hugs, etc...

Nice

I was watching him, he didn't clap often on the bench but I just think because it's not who he is. But glad to hear he was active

[djohn2oo8]

Clapping? lol You can choose to believe Rose or not. What does clapping tell you?

[Phenomanul]

The possibility of Kawhi, LeBron, and LaMarcus as a NEW big three is scintillating.

If that happened next season, I'm not sure that Manu would retire

Both he and Parker want that 5th ring to match Timmy.

IF LeBron wants rings to match MJ. His best chance is here.

[DAF86]

Again, what's he going to say? If Kawhi really does want out, his agent still isn't going to tell it to the whole world and diminish his trade value.

Why wouldn't Kawhi want to disminish his trade value?

If he disminishes his trade value the team he will end up with will have to give out less and therefore his team will be stronger.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Fake news.

I was at the game. Kawhi was more exuberant than normal. He would walk up to the huddle, have words with Dejounte. He encouraged Bertans. He was laughing with Danny. He was hi-fiving Lamarcus...

EDIT: Also he and LeBron had about a 2 minute conversation before tip-off - they were really respectful of each other, lots of laughs, appreciative hugs, etc...

Thank god, every time TNT showed him in the bench he looked completely out of it. Glad to see that wasn’t the case.

[spursistan]

Fake news.

I was at the game. Kawhi was more exuberant than normal. He would walk up to the huddle, have words with Dejounte. He encouraged Bertans. He was laughing with Danny. He was hi-fiving Lamarcus...

EDIT: Also he and LeBron had about a 2 minute conversation before tip-off - they were really respectful of each other, lots of laughs, appreciative hugs, etc...

The recruiter

Any vid of this one, tbh?

[Phenomanul]

The recruiter

Any vid of this one, tbh?

I don't have any sorry...

[Dex]

Today on First Take...."Lebron should go the the Spurs this summer"

These guys make the tabloids look reputable.

[exstatic]

Yes, and that's a problem. He's gotta have more self-awareness, given the "news" of the past couple of days. Fans wanted to see positive signs ... I didn't.

#holdme

[TheDoctor]

Fake news.

I was at the game. Kawhi was more exuberant than normal. He would walk up to the huddle, have words with Dejounte. He encouraged Bertans. He was laughing with Danny. He was hi-fiving Lamarcus...

EDIT: Also he and LeBron had about a 2 minute conversation before tip-off - they were really respectful of each other, lots of laughs, appreciative hugs, etc...

Phenomanul w/ the Nicaraguan goods as always

[hater]

Why wouldn't Kawhi want to disminish his trade value?

If he disminishes his trade value the team he will end up with will have to give out less and therefore his team will be stronger.

clitternation

[MaNu4Tres]

Today on First Take...."Lebron should go the the Spurs this summer"

These guys make the tabloids look reputable.

Meh...

It's not like they came out and said, " From what I'm hearing, LeBron wants to go to San Antonio."

Max simply said, he thinks LeBron should go to San Antonio.

Max is not Jalen. Jalen is not Max. Max was giving his opinion on what he thinks LeBron should do. Jalen was basically giving information on what he heard (true or not).

Two entirely different things that just happen to be talked about days apart

I don't see how the two cir stances have any congruencey besides both being on ESPN.

Comprehension and context people.

[coachmac87]

Meh...

It's not like they came out and said, " From what I'm hearing, LeBron wants to go to San Antonio."

Max simply said, he thinks LeBron should go to San Antonio.

Max is not Jalen. Jalen is not Max. Max was giving his opinion on what he thinks LeBron should do. Jalen was basically giving information on what he heard (true or not).

Two entirely different things that just happen to be talked about days apart

I don't see how the two cir stances have any congruencey besides both being on ESPN.

Comprehension and context people.

Regarding that whole thing Max did say the Uncle was Jalens source...

I found it interesting both SAS and Max agreed Spurs would be a good look for LeBron..odd coming from SAS when he’s talked bad about the Alamo city ever since he’s been on air.

[Dex]

Meh...

It's not like they came out and said, " From what I'm hearing, LeBron wants to go to San Antonio."

Max simply said, he thinks LeBron should go to San Antonio.

Max is not Jalen. Jalen is not Max. Max was giving his opinion on what he thinks LeBron should do. Jalen was basically giving information on what he heard (true or not).

Two entirely different things that just happen to be talked about days apart

I don't see how the two cir stances have any congruencey besides both being on ESPN.

Comprehension and context people.

It's still an example of how polarizing the show is.

Yesterday they had Jalen saying Kawhi wants out because San Antonio can't attract any major free agents.

You've also got Stephen A claiming Robertson as his source for Kawhi's discontent, when Robertson was the first guy to come out and dispute the rumors.

Today Max is saying that the biggest free agent on the market should go to San Antonio.

I get that they are different people with differing opinions, but they cant have it both ways. I've also gone on record that I think they are all just talking out their asses.

It's like I said yesterday...they throw at the wall, see what sticks, and then act like they know what they are talking about.

[MaNu4Tres]

It's still an example of how polarizing the show is.

Yesterday they had Jalen saying Kawhi wants out because San Antonio can't attract any major free agents.

You've also got Stephen A claiming Robertson as his source for Kawhi's discontent, when Robertson was the first guy to come out and dispute the rumors.

Today Max is saying that the biggest free agent on the market should go to San Antonio.

I get that they are different people with differing opinions, but they cant have it both ways. I've also gone on record that I think they are all just talking out their asses.

It's like I said yesterday...they throw at the wall, see what sticks, and then act like they know what they are talking about.

Jalen wasn't giving his opinion. He was simply saying what he heard (true or not). Max was giving his opinion on what he thinks LeBron should do next summer.

I don't see how both are tied together.

We all know Stephen A is a jackass, that's not who or what I'm referring to.

[Ozballer]

A rumour like the one about KL sounds to me like an easy manager strategy to announce his/her player is on the market without truly putting egg on the face of the franchise, the player nor the player's management team. All parties play it down as media circus and in the meantime franchises that are interested will make voluntary enquiries. Nothing more nothing less I guess.