Pop: starting Dejounte bc we need to know what we have

[Chinook]

Murray will likely get more minutes at the two as Green's backup (though he'll probably be coming in for Kawhi with Manu moving over). My guess is that this is where Mills will see his time. They should be a pretty good combo. Kyle likely sees almost no time at the three (besides Manu, I think Green will see minutes there as well), and Gay will likely play a lot of center minutes. Unless Joff was going out with injury, Pop was desperately avoiding playing him. I imagine that he'll be even more willing to do that when he has all of his taller guys healthy again.

Of course, I am not convinced that Pop isn't doing this while putting Murray on the block. If Kawhi really is unhappy with the roster, the Spurs will probably try to make a move. How successful they are in that regard depends in large part on how highly other GMs view Murray. A Dejounte who shows out over the next two weeks could make a Walker trade much more possible.

[MaNu4Tres]

Murray will likely get more minutes at the two as Green's backup (though he'll probably be coming in for Kawhi with Manu moving over). My guess is that this is where Mills will see his time. They should be a pretty good combo. Kyle likely sees almost no time at the three (besides Manu, I think Green will see minutes there as well), and Gay will likely play a lot of center minutes. Unless Joff was going out with injury, Pop was desperately avoiding playing him. I imagine that he'll be even more willing to do that when he has all of his taller guys healthy again.

Of course, I am not convinced that Pop isn't doing this while putting Murray on the block. If Kawhi really is unhappy with the roster, the Spurs will probably try to make a move. How successful they are in that regard depends in large part on how highly other GMs view Murray. A Dejounte who shows out over the next two weeks could make a Walker trade much more possible.

I don't understand this logic if Pau and Aldridge are in the lineup.

Pop has been staggering them consistently, all year. Pau/LA share minutes at the back up 5 after the first 6 minutes of the 1st and 3rd quarter.

LA/Pau are pretty much locks for minutes at the back up 5, unless they are playing a team playing extremely small (which is hardly ever the case). With LA/Pau at the 5, Rudy plays the 4, and either Kyle or Manu gets minutes at the 3, Patty or Manu getting minutes at the 2 and Tony is pretty much a stone cold lock getting minutes at the back up PG spot.

I don't understand how you see Murray getting minutes at the back up two when everyone is healthy. If DeJounte gets more minutes at the 2 when everyone is healthy, it will only be when they play smaller back courts IF Murray & Tony are rolling like they were last night and IF Manu, Kyle, Danny are off. Those are a lot of IFs imo.

When everyone is healthy, Spurs simply have too many better options to play at the wing than playing midget ball with smaller back courts.

The logic behind playing Mills ahead of Manu or ahead of Kyle, at the back up wing or two ( since Parker is the lock at back up PG), is either very biased or very ridiculous.

[bic50]

It's about time. Just let Murray play. I think he has potential

[r0drig0lac]

very easy

[Keepin' it real]

12 millions for someone qualifying as an odd man out ..

An utter disgusting contract, tbh..

Wow, this is the first time I've heard anyone complain about Patty's contract!

[Chinook]

I don't understand this logic if Pau and Aldridge are in the lineup.

You can't reliably stagger two players who start together. Seriously, it amazes me to see people still arguing this after watching this season. Joff is only not getting everygame minutes because he's horrible. Even with that, Pop has had to go to him when everything doesn't go perfectly with his subs utions. Imagine every minute Joff has been getting going to Rudy, then it's much easier to understand what I mean.

I don't understand how you see Murray getting minutes at the back up two when everyone is healthy.

I don't understand how you DON'T understand that. Pop is going to play Parker and Mills minutes, and every second one of them is one the court with Murray puts Dejounte at the two. You love conflating what you want to happen with what you believe will happen, and in this case, that's causing you to think Pop is going to bench Patty despite the fact that the team has been perfectly fine with him this season. I understand everyone is annoyed with his deal, and trading him would make sense. But benching him doesn't, and it is likely not even on Pop's long-term radar.

Murray, Parker
Green, Mills
Leonard, Ginobili
Aldridge, Anderson
Gasol, Gay

That's where I see Pop going with his rotation going forward. If Murray stays in the rotation, he's probably going to be playing with Mills to avoid having two smaller guards together at once. He'll try to stagger Pau and LMA, but Gay would be asked to provide minutes behind those guys in cases where both need to miss time. Tony should be the sixth man, so coming in after four or five minutes would make sense. Then Mills would come in a couple of minutes later for Green along with Manu for Kawhi. Then Parker would go out and Murray would come in (and thusly get minutes at the two). Then Green comes in for Manu, Kawhi for Patty, and there you go.

The front court is relatively easy with Gay for Pau, Anderson for Aldridge, Pau for Gay and LMA for Kyle.

[SAGirl]

very easy

can be made fun of but Kyle truly has been one of the most consistent performers in the team at what he does and he's had a good season so far. Very difficult for me to think he's all of a sudden going to get benched in favor of midget lineups... I mean maybe it happens... I am not infallible nor pretend to be like some here who pat themselves in the back when they throw in all directions and some of it sticks... but really don't think he will be benched completely.

Of course none of this matters if team isn't fully healthy, in which case he will still play. But even in a fully healthy team, Pop had said he'd play. I don't see how Kyle has shot himself in the foot and ruined his chances.

[r0drig0lac]

can be made fun of but Kyle truly has been one of the most consistent performers in the team at what he does and he's had a good season so far. Very difficult for me to think he's all of a sudden going to get benched in favor of midget lineups... I mean maybe it happens... I am not infallible nor pretend to be like some here who pat themselves in the back when they throw in all directions and some of it sticks... but really don't think he will be benched completely.

Of course none of this matters if team isn't fully healthy, in which case he will still play. But even in a fully healthy team, Pop had said he'd play. I don't see how Kyle has shot himself in the foot and ruined his chances.

as you can see, I'm a guy "Kyle" but I think you're very serious in this thing of defending it in ST when Kyle's game speaks more than anything you can add

[MaNu4Tres]

You can't reliably stagger two players who start together. Seriously, it amazes me to see people still arguing this after watching this season. Joff is only not getting everygame minutes because he's horrible. Even with that, Pop has had to go to him when everything doesn't go perfectly with his subs utions. Imagine every minute Joff has been getting going to Rudy, then it's much easier to understand what I mean.



I don't understand how you DON'T understand that. Pop is going to play Parker and Mills minutes, and every second one of them is one the court with Murray puts Dejounte at the two. You love conflating what you want to happen with what you believe will happen, and in this case, that's causing you to think Pop is going to bench Patty despite the fact that the team has been perfectly fine with him this season. I understand everyone is annoyed with his deal, and trading him would make sense. But benching him doesn't, and it is likely not even on Pop's long-term radar.

Murray, Parker
Green, Mills
Leonard, Ginobili
Aldridge, Anderson
Gasol, Gay

That's where I see Pop going with his rotation going forward. If Murray stays in the rotation, he's probably going to be playing with Mills to avoid having two smaller guards together at once. He'll try to stagger Pau and LMA, but Gay would be asked to provide minutes behind those guys in cases where both need to miss time. Tony should be the sixth man, so coming in after four or five minutes would make sense. Then Mills would come in a couple of minutes later for Green along with Manu for Kawhi. Then Parker would go out and Murray would come in (and thusly get minutes at the two). Then Green comes in for Manu, Kawhi for Patty, and there you go.

The front court is relatively easy with Gay for Pau, Anderson for Aldridge, Pau for Gay and LMA for Kyle.

I don't agree. I see Patty getting spot minutes at the very best blended in with mop up minutes.

Pop has staggered LA/ Pau every game when both are playing. Pau subs out at 7-6 minutes and subs back in for LA around 3-1 minute mark. Then Pau plays start of 2nd & LA subs in around 8-6 minute mark & he closes.

And when it gets tight, LA, Danny, and Kawhi all will get uptick in minutes. Maybe even DeJounte & Manu ( game to game) as well.

[LittleCriminal]

can be made fun of but Kyle truly has been one of the most consistent performers in the team at what he does and he's had a good season so far. Very difficult for me to think he's all of a sudden going to get benched in favor of midget lineups... I mean maybe it happens... I am not infallible nor pretend to be like some here who pat themselves in the back when they throw in all directions and some of it sticks... but really don't think he will be benched completely.

Of course none of this matters if team isn't fully healthy, in which case he will still play. But even in a fully healthy team, Pop had said he'd play. I don't see how Kyle has shot himself in the foot and ruined his chances.

Consistent?? I think you forgot the IN in front of the word consistent ..

Have you forgotten the previous games Kyle played before Indiana where he sucked??

You do realize Andersons ok stats are against bottom defensive teams right?? lol

This 4 year bum cant even outplay a 21 year old rookie..

[SAGirl]

as you can see, I'm a guy "Kyle" but I think you're very serious in this thing of defending it in ST when Kyle's game speaks more than anything you can add

ok...
I get the joke.

[Chinook]

I don't agree. I see Patty getting spot minutes at the very best blended in with mop up minutes.

Pop has staggered LA/ Pau every game when both are playing. Pau subs out at 7-6 minutes and subs back in for LA around 3-1 minute mark.

I think you are saying that because you don't like Patty, not because you believe Pop will actually go through with it. Pop has been planning something like this for a year.

The center rotation you're giving me is the ideal one, and that hasn't been remotely consistent. Joff has played in plenty of games with both Pau and LMA were healthy.

[SAGirl]

Imagine the Joff spot minutes can be soaked up by Davis if others were healthy and Davis had spot minutes only. He's a guy who can occasionally get hot and if that happens I could see Pop riding the hot hand.

I imagine too there are matchups where Gasol will not do well. The whole thing is unpredictable right now. The team will have to adjust to playing differently and Patty's shooting will become important in the playoffs when they load up on post players. He's going to take someone minutes... right now likely it's Green for me.. unfortunately you sacrifice defense every time Patty plays regardless.

[MaNu4Tres]

I think you are saying that because you don't like Patty, not because you believe Pop will actually go through with it. Pop has been planning something like this for a year.

The center rotation you're giving me is the ideal one, and that hasn't been remotely consistent. Joff has played in plenty of games with both Pau and LMA were healthy.

I have nothing against Patty. His deal sucks yes and yes I think he's overrated on the court, but I don't hate him.

If Pop staggers LA/Pau, I think Rudy, Kyle, Manu, and Parker are better options.

I highly doubt Pop goes to Rudy at the 5, unless a team dictates it by going really small -- which won't be the case most of the time.

[dabom]

2nd most minutes in the team and you think he gets spot minutes. Goddam your a got now.

[dabom]

You're broken brah. Sag is a better poster than you.

[Stabula]

can be made fun of but Kyle truly has been one of the most consistent performers in the team at what he does and he's had a good season so far. Very difficult for me to think he's all of a sudden going to get benched in favor of midget lineups... I mean maybe it happens... I am not infallible nor pretend to be like some here who pat themselves in the back when they throw in all directions and some of it sticks... but really don't think he will be benched completely.

Of course none of this matters if team isn't fully healthy, in which case he will still play. But even in a fully healthy team, Pop had said he'd play. I don't see how Kyle has shot himself in the foot and ruined his chances.

I like Kyle. He does a lot of the dirty work, is unselfish, is high IQ and well-rounded

[MaNu4Tres]

2nd most minutes in the team and you think he gets spot minutes. Goddam your a got now.

Pattys the only guard/wing from last yrs rotation who hasn't been hurt, Kawhi has only played 9 games, and Tony & Manu have been out a lot, emoji got. 2nd In minutes, how about some context got? When you play every game, when everyone else misses 10 games at least, your minutes will be higher, dumbass emoji got.

You act like he's made the All Star team.

[SAGirl]

I like Kyle. He does a lot of the dirty work, is unselfish, is high IQ and well-rounded

sorry ... I really got the joke after...
joke is on me and my fandoming... which I am fine with actually. Making fun of my fandoming... I had it coming.

[dabom]

Also our best PG against the roxs and warriors until Kawhi went down. Almost like you are totally a huge got now.

[MaNu4Tres]

Patty over Danny?!

Wow.

I'm taking a timeout from this place.

[MaNu4Tres]

Also our best PG against the roxs and warriors until Kawhi went down. Almost like you are totally a huge got now.

[dabom]

Patty over Danny?!

Wow.

I'm taking a timeout from this place.

When did I say that? What are you arguing about you got.

[dabom]

Laughing at facts.

One of the most consistently wrong posters on this site.

[SAGirl]

Patty over Danny?!

Wow.

I'm taking a timeout from this place.

Are you going to pretend you didn't see that last season, specially in the playoffs at times? Really please. This is Pop we are talking about. He's going to play Patty unless he is traded. Any player you take minutes from to give to Patty is going to create a defensive problem, except Tony and Tony is going to play too. I completely get what you are saying and I agree with you in part... but I also know Pop and he's going to play Patty. I would not be surprised at Murra/Patty where Patty takes Danny's spot. same in the bench.. with Tony/Patty though I would hope not... what I think should happen is not the same as what I think Pop will do.