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    aimlessly kicking a soccer ball as hard as you can and hoping to score a goal.
    sounds like a messi penalty shot in a big game tbh

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    Hard to catch a fly ball while carrying a bag of sunflower seeds tbqh

    Lardassballers should add a fanny pack to their uniform so they can store their snacks before raising their arm to attempt a catch

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    sounds like a messi penalty shot in a big game tbh


    xavi and iniesta not playing for argentina

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    xavi and iniesta not playing for argentina
    Just think: Messi is the GOAT of your "sport"

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    Hard to catch a fly ball while carrying a bag of sunflower seeds tbqh

    Lardassballers should add a fanny pack to their uniform so they can store their snacks before raising their arm to attempt a catch


    I could probably play a game as a right fielder for an MLB team without hindering its chances of winning too much. Just catch the 3 or 4 fly balls that go that way and be 0 for 4 as the 9th batter.

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    "Sports" that don't have guys jacking each other off in the shower >>>>> "Sports" that do have guys jacking each other off in the shower

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    Just think: Messi is the GOAT of your "sport"
    this re can't even troll .. no son, he's not even top 3.

    also it's not like jordan was 1-9 without pippen, lebron's chokes, kobe's horrible series and chucking, etc .. everybody has fails, messi's career is on par with jordan's, you're just too dumb to even know wtf is going on in soccer.

    and lol using "sport" when besides the brainless us of maga a all countries in the world have it at their #1 sport. your football is a 4h commercial run scattered with 10 minutes of play where 2 groups of obese monkeys try to outnig one another. all of them have brain trauma and the intellect of an uninspired primate tbh i can't even laugh. if not for basketball the usa wouldn't even have sports.

    also lmao getting drilled in the ass by japan and cuba at beisball, you'd too probably get cucked by south africa/new zealand if they'd ever decide to play football.

    see y'all boys in 2030 when I heard on this forum that you'll contend for the wc maybe the ter tbh

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    "Sports" that don't have guys jacking each other off in the shower >>>>> "Sports" that do have guys jacking each other off in the shower
    son lakers had magic and the spurs had jim .. just saying tbh.

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    this re can't even troll .. no son, he's not even top 3.

    also it's not like jordan was 1-9 without pippen, lebron's chokes, kobe's horrible series and chucking, etc .. everybody has fails, messi's career is on par with jordan's, you're just too dumb to even know wtf is going on in soccer.
    The difference between Jordan/LeBron and Messi is that Jordan and LeBron play an actual sport and aren't midgets.

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    Just think: Messi is the GOAT of your "sport"
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    OP has obviously never played baseball with apalisoc_9.


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    The difference between Jordan/LeBron and Messi is that Jordan and LeBron play an actual sport and aren't midgets.
    lebronze and jordan play in small market sport that is marketed to hipsters and homeless negros where flopping gets you mvps. missi >>> lebronze + jordan combined in terms of revenue, impact, interest etc ... literally they are dwarfed by a midget

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    Oh yeah, I was forgetting: hand-eye coordination and eat your way to some mass.
    Pure fat doesn't translate into strength. You really need to try harder.

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    I could probably play a game as a right fielder for an MLB team without hindering its chances of winning too much. Just catch the 3 or 4 fly balls that go that way and be 0 for 4 as the 9th batter.
    You wouldn't be able to catch a fly ball with that kind of consistency, much less run down gappers with your soccer speed (slower than MLB players on average). You at starting at 1:00



    And going 0-4 does massively hinder your team's chances of winning.

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    I could probably play a game as a right fielder for an MLB team without hindering its chances of winning too much. Just catch the 3 or 4 fly balls that go that way and be 0 for 4 as the 9th batter.
    Just like if you got red carded and were out of the way not cluttering up the field for your soccer team.

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    Just like if you got red card and were out of the way not cluttering up the field for your soccer team.
    . I forgot about that. A team can literally play one man down for an entire match and still compete. So, theoretically, any average schulb can be the 11th man and not massively hurt his team's chances of winning the game.

    There are plenty of such matches in football, where a team with ten men have gone on to win the match against a full football team.

    The most nail-biting one of it all, that I've seen live is the 2012, Champions League Semi -final, between Barcelona and Chelsea at Camp Nou. John Terry was sent off in the 37th minute.
    So you could've put me in for John Terry and Chelsea still would've won. I would just make sure to stay out of the way, of course. Difference compared to baseball is that the schulb can't choose to stay out the way. He has to take his ABs and field balls that are hit to him.

    Killshot. You tried, DAF86

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    . I forgot about that. A team can literally play one man down for an entire match and still compete. So, theoretically, any average schulb can be the 11th man and not massively hurt his team's chances of winning the game.



    So you could've put me in for John Terry and Chelsea still would've won. I would just make sure to stay out of the way, of course. Difference compared to baseball is that the schulb can't choose to stay out the way. He has to take his ABs and field balls that are hit to him.

    Killshot. You tried, DAF86
    Except all these things:

    -a guy getting red carded on soccer hinders the chances of a team a of a lot more than a guy going hitless on a baseball game. A of a lot more.

    -having a man down on soccer is less detrimental than having any average Joe playing. If you are a man down, you know you are a man down and you play a certain way to try and make up for it. Having a weak link that commits silly mistakes and/or gets eaten alive by the opposition at any given opportunity is very difficult to deal with.

    Also, trying to pretend like rutine flyballs are hard.

    I've played baseball before son, with guys that used to hit it pretty far up and it's really not that hard. I doubt MLB flyballs can get much more difficult. Heck on that video you showed, that ing goofy athletic-less looking guy made a catch on the first try that made a MLB player clap.

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    Except all these things:

    -a guy getting red carded on soccer hinders the chances of a team a of a lot more than a guy going hitless on a baseball game. A of a lot more.
    Proof? As it stands, soccer is the only major sport in the world where a team is penalized by having to send a man off for the rest of the match, and yet, team's win/hold serve all the in' time despite that disadvantage. You can't spin your way out of this with bull qualitative arguments. Quite literally, 10 men can beat 11, which means an average Joe being on the field as the 11th wouldn't impact overall winning chances as much as in other sports. Again, I could hide in soccer by just standing out of bounds. You can't hide in baseball. You'll be forced to make a play during your AB.

    -having a man down on soccer is less detrimental than having any average Joe playing. If you are a man down, you know you are a man down and you play a certain way to try and make up for it. Having a weak link that commits silly mistakes and/or gets eaten alive by the opposition at any given opportunity is very difficult to deal with.
    No, the team knowing they have an average Joe on the field would basically play as if they're a man down. They would tell the Joe to stay away and then play whatever style they use in that situation. So basically, soccer is a sport (the only sport I know of) where you have the ability to mitigate such a disadvantage. This speaks to soccer's terrible game design. Why doesn't any other major sport impose this man down penalty (hockey does, but only for 2 minutes)? Because it would turn the match into a lopsided farce.

    I've played baseball before son, with guys that used to hit it pretty far up and it's really not that hard. I doubt MLB flyballs can get much more difficult. Heck on that video you showed, that ing goofy athletic-less looking guy made a catch on the first try that made a MLB player clap.
    Whiffle ball games don't count. I also stopped taking seriously your personal opinions on baseball when you said that an MLB player could probably produce a decent on base percentage by never swinging since pitchers aren't accurate enough to throw enough strikes to offset that strategy. The basis for your opinion? Argentine "baseball players" you supposedly played with who could never throw strikes.

    Just stop talking about a sport you have a very, very limited understanding of. I don't talk out of my ass about soccer. You probably think I do, but I always back up my opinions with facts (i.e. this 10 vs. 11 situation that suggests that one player doesn't have as much impact during a single match as in other sports).

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    And a final nail into DAF's re ed "I won't hinder an MLBs team's chances too much by playing in the outfield and going 0-4 every time" argument.

    Albert Pujols, one of the greatest baseball players in history, was 4 wins and 39 runs worse than the average MLB player last season in 149 games. This means that when he was in the lineup, the Angels were .26 runs worse. And he didn't have a chance to further negatively impact matters on the defensive end. The Angels averaged 4.38 runs per game, meaning Pujols in the lineup basically makes them a 6% worse team. And he hit 23 homeruns and drove in 101, which used to be an All Star level season before the advent of advanced metrics. There's no way to do the math here, but an average Joe going 0-4 every time is infinitely worse and would MASSIVELY impact a team's winning chances (in the context of sports, a single player being responsible for a 6% dip in team production is a huge in' blow. That's like a basketball player having a -6.00 RPM. Only one player in the NBA had that low of an RPM last year). Not to mention how many runs this average Joe would give up defensively.

    If a 23hr/101rbi season can make a team 6% worse, just how bad do you think a .000/00/00 season from a regular player would make a team? Could they win a few games if the pitching is shutdown and every other batter gets hot? Probably. Same with the NBA/NHL/NFL. If Curry, KD, Klay are on, the 5th man could be an Average Joe and they'd still win a few fluke games.

    That said, in soccer we have crystal clear evidence that an Average Joe in the lineup wouldn't always mean defeat, as in the countless times 10 beat 11. And again, changing tactics doesn't matter. The Average Joe could go take a nap out of bounds and his team would play as if they were down a man.

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    Indeed. That's the killshot in the "soccer is so demanding" debate. Hotshot "prodigies" sometimes don't make it out of Low-A ball, while loads of 18 year old soccer players make their debuts in the biggest leagues and have productive seasons. Now, the soccer crew will counter that soccer is a young man's game while baseball is a an old man's game, but the aging curves are about identical.





    But they run around or something.
    Before readig the post I thought this graph showed the MS paint drawing of the average Baseball Players belly.

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    Before readig the post I thought this graph showed the MS paint drawing of the average Baseball Players belly.
    maybe in logarithmic scale tbh.

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    Proof? As it stands, soccer is the only major sport in the world where a team is penalized by having to send a man off for the rest of the match, and yet, team's win/hold serve all the in' time despite that disadvantage. You can't spin your way out of this with bull qualitative arguments. Quite literally, 10 men can beat 11, which means an average Joe being on the field as the 11th wouldn't impact overall winning chances as much as in other sports. Again, I could hide in soccer by just standing out of bounds. You can't hide in baseball. You'll be forced to make a play during your AB.
    Teams that play with a man down lose the vast majority of the time, whereas in baseball games multiple guys are constantly going hitless. How much more simple do you want it than that?

    No, the team knowing they have an average Joe on the field would basically play as if they're a man down. They would tell the Joe to stay away and then play whatever style they use in that situation. So basically, soccer is a sport (the only sport I know of) where you have the ability to mitigate such a disadvantage. This speaks to soccer's terrible game design. Why doesn't any other major sport impose this man down penalty (hockey does, but only for 2 minutes)? Because it would turn the match into a lopsided farce.
    There are several games where you are left with a man down son: hockey, rugby, handball, etc. All way more entertaining and better than baseball. That's what you can do with sports where you actually have to move and run.

    Whiffle ball games don't count. I also stopped taking seriously your personal opinions on baseball when you said that an MLB player could probably produce a decent on base percentage by never swinging since pitchers aren't accurate enough to throw enough strikes to offset that strategy. The basis for your opinion? Argentine "baseball players" you supposedly played with who could never throw strikes.
    Whiffle ball games or not a flyball is a flyball and that isn't really hard to do, tbh.

    Just stop talking about a sport you have a very, very limited understanding of. I don't talk out of my ass about soccer. You probably think I do, but I always back up my opinions with facts (i.e. this 10 vs. 11 situation that suggests that one player doesn't have as much impact during a single match as in other sports).
    soccer is the only major sport in the world where a team is penalized by having to send a man off for the rest of the match, and yet, team's win/hold serve all the in' time despite that disadvantage.

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    And a final nail into DAF's re ed "I won't hinder an MLBs team's chances too much by playing in the outfield and going 0-4 every time" argument.

    Albert Pujols, one of the greatest baseball players in history, was 4 wins and 39 runs worse than the average MLB player last season in 149 games. This means that when he was in the lineup, the Angels were .26 runs worse. And he didn't have a chance to further negatively impact matters on the defensive end. The Angels averaged 4.38 runs per game, meaning Pujols in the lineup basically makes them a 6% worse team. And he hit 23 homeruns and drove in 101, which used to be an All Star level season before the advent of advanced metrics. There's no way to do the math here, but an average Joe going 0-4 every time is infinitely worse and would MASSIVELY impact a team's winning chances (in the context of sports, a single player being responsible for a 6% dip in team production is a huge in' blow. That's like a basketball player having a -6.00 RPM. Only one player in the NBA had that low of an RPM last year). Not to mention how many runs this average Joe would give up defensively.

    If a 23hr/101rbi season can make a team 6% worse, just how bad do you think a .000/00/00 season from a regular player would make a team? Could they win a few games if the pitching is shutdown and every other batter gets hot? Probably. Same with the NBA/NHL/NFL. If Curry, KD, Klay are on, the 5th man could be an Average Joe and they'd still win a few fluke games.

    That said, in soccer we have crystal clear evidence that an Average Joe in the lineup wouldn't always mean defeat, as in the countless times 10 beat 11. And again, changing tactics doesn't matter. The Average Joe could go take a nap out of bounds and his team would play as if they were down a man.
    I was talking about a single game, tbh.

    But anyways, if you want to take it to a whole season the point still remains: An average joe playing an entire season with a baseball team would be less detrimental than an average joe playing an entire season with a soccer team.

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    what went down there tbh...

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