Danny benched for Bryn Forbes

[DJR210]

Happy for Bryn tbh.. he has the alpha gene, not too many on the current roster do

[Chinook]

Happy for Bryn tbh.. he has the alpha gene, not too many on the current roster do

I'm happy that Bryn hit his shots and all, but it's not like Pop made a long-term move. Pop hasn't even said anything about Bryn starting the next game, let alone that he's getting a real look there going forward.

[phxspurfan]

Happy for Bryn tbh.. he has the alpha gene, not too many on the current roster do

Gary Neal Deux

[DPG21920]

I don't think Danny's souring on playing in SA at all. I think it's the opposite. It's like he considers himself married to the organization and expects to retire there. He's essentially doing the equivalent of letting himself go after getting into a committed relationship. I think Pop has done something similar when it comes to coaching the roster too, but that's a different story.

However, Danny's pretty much cut his career earnings in half by committing to SA over taking bigger offers with other teams. I think at this point he's paid them back enough to leave without jeopardizing his long-term place in the organization's history.

I see. I was reading into your "desire to remain" comment

[r0drig0lac]

"Irreplaceable"

Good on Forbes for following the footsteps of Belinelli, Simmons, and Manu in bailing out the corpse of Danny as per usual....

[SuperCam]

but he's gonna be all-nba defense i swear

[phxspurfan]

but he's gonna be all-nba defense i swear

funny how no one cares about all defense when guys like Kobe win it for show. And when guys like Tony Allen win it and are out of the league the next year

It's about scoring, now and forever. Defense is great, but if you can't score you're a net negative out there

[TheGreatYacht]

Avery Bradley is available

He's having a really bad year, but he is on an expiring deal and wouldn't cost much.

I'd rather swap Kyle for Bullock, who's shooting 44% from 3 tbh...

[spurraider21]

people keep falling in love with microwaves after a hot game. and then when forbes goes 2-8 from the field and 1-5 from 3 in a game while going up against a non-sacramento team, people will on pop for playing him

[phxspurfan]

people keep falling in love with microwaves after a hot game. and then when forbes goes 2-8 from the field and 1-5 from 3 in a game while going up against a non-sacramento team, people will on pop for playing him

He's not just a microwave TBH. He can dribble/drive and find guys better than Danny. And so far he's been a more reliable shooter. Those alone can make up for the defense. Plus it's not like Danny is a LeBron/KD stopper anyway

[SAGirl]

Pop was disappointed in Kyle, Danny and Pau after the first half, so he sat all 3 players. Bryn was on fire, so he rightfully rode that hand. It wasn't Mills who started for Green, it was Bryn. Your argument was that in the playoffs, in the scenario where everyone was healthy, Mills would be taking Dannys minutes. I still disagree.

Nah didn’t think it would be for the playoffs alone. Just thought minutes in general would come from Danny... To be fair, Patty is playing a bit less minutes too. B4 he was at around 24, lately he’s havung some games around 17-20 max.

[SAGirl]

There is bound to be a stat somewhere that shows Green's defense last season. Personally, I thought he shied away from trying to beat the opposing guard who wanted to take him to a pick on the high post. He got some blocks by following the guy around and blocking from behind, but since you can't do that every time, I wished he'd try to fight through the picks more. I think he is playing too soft, does't want to get hurt. He CAN play good d, but it seems to depend on his mood on a particular night.

Good observation on trying to avoid injuries. This is the regular season after all... and the team has injured wings already with Danny just getting back.

[Phenomanul]

He's not just a microwave TBH. He can dribble/drive and find guys better than Danny. And so far he's been a more reliable shooter. Those alone can make up for the defense. Plus it's not like Danny is a LeBron/KD stopper anyway

Disagree vehemently with the bolded statement. Forbes rarely looks to pass the ball, anytime he puts it down on the floor and goes around a screener about 90% of the plays result in him taking a pull-up shot or a running floater. He passes only when he has no other choice - which usually means it's a telegraphed pass that inherently doesn't contribute to placing someone else in an easier position to score.

Paired with Kawhi, someone like Danny is more useful because they both have length and can defend the pick'n'roll. Bryn does not have the length to do so.

[SAGirl]

There's nothing wrong with benching Green. Danny has to respond to it the right way. Danny used to be benched on the regular before the le run. Other than his following contract season, I think Danny's gotten a bit complacent, both in his own play and in his desire to remain with the team. Pop reminding Danny that he's only starting and on the roster because he's a good player, and if he's not going to snap out of his funk, both of those things will change. Green seems to be an important player for chemistry with domestic players like LMA and Kyle, but if anything, him and Pop sort of moving past the "whipping boy" phase has coincided with a general lack of discipline on the roster.

Good points.

[SAGirl]

Well, many fans have expressed disappointment in Pop over the years for sticking to his subs ution patterns, regardless of how they're playing. It's refreshing to see a change, even if it's in a meaningless regular season game.

This is an aside from being specific to Danny. I don’t think this regular season’s games are meaningless. For one, team isn’t guaranteed to get in the playoffs on sheer talent. They are understaffed and need to compete every night really hard. It may be weary at times but these games aren’t meaningless. Also, I think the team has been developing young talent all season and the team may be changing. Guys careers and contracts this summer depend on R.S.

[phxspurfan]

Disagree vehemently with the bolded statement. Forbes rarely looks to pass the ball, anytime he puts it down on the floor and goes around a screener about 90% of the plays result in him taking a pull-up shot or a running floater. He passes only when he has no other choice - which usually means it's a telegraphed pass that inherently doesn't contribute to placing someone else in an easier position to score.

Paired with Kawhi, someone like Danny is more useful because they both have length and can defend the pick'n'roll. Bryn does not have the length to do so.

Yes Brynn can't switch off picks and be as effective as Danny. But Brynn can score 20 points like a true starting SG should. Unless you like the current offense where they throw the ball into LMA and stand around and score 80 a game.

[gospursgojas]

Lol at people who hate on Green and call his defense overrated until Kyle, Patty, or Forbes is guarding KD/Harden/Lebron/Westbrook.

[spurraider21]

kyle isn't a bad defender at all. he's just not quick-footed, so quicker players with good change of direction will make him look silly at times. he just lacks green's ability to switch onto PG's. anderson would be awful at defending westbrook, for example, but would probably be decent against george/melo if we face OKC

[phxspurfan]

kyle isn't a bad defender at all. he's just not quick-footed, so quicker players with good change of direction will make him look silly at times. he just lacks green's ability to switch onto PG's. anderson would be awful at defending westbrook, for example, but would probably be decent against george/melo if we face OKC

We won't play OKC. We won't get past GSW/HOU when we play them first round as a 7-8 seed w/o Kawhi.

[spurraider21]

We won't play OKC. We won't get past GSW/HOU when we play them first round as a 7-8 seed w/o Kawhi.

if we're without kawhi then all discussion is moot anyway.

[phxspurfan]

if we're without kawhi then all discussion is moot anyway.

Exactly. I'm assuming at this point that due to "injury"/holdout/trade etc we aren't going to have Kawhi's services come playoff time. If he makes some miraculous recovery (for instance, after a SuperMax is signed ) he wasn't that injured anyway and we had not nearly as much to worry about. We wouldn't have to find other ways to generate offense, and could possibly bear with a no offense scrub like Green starting while Kawhi takes on half the scoring load from LMA.

[TheGreatYacht]

Lmao Danny can't guard any of those guys either. This has been proven.

[phxspurfan]

Lmao Danny can't guard any of those guys either. This has been proven.

Also my point. Danny may be running around blocking Yogi Ferrel in January but he sure as hasn't shown a way to slow down Curry/KD/LeBron/Westbrook etc. And that's the only reason you hold a roster spot (much less starting spot) for a defensive specialist. He's probably only a middling 3-D guy at this point because his reliable 3-ball is gone. It's not 2014 anymore.

[Raven]

we're not getting anywhere with bryn, that much is sure.

[spurraider21]

Also my point. Danny may be running around blocking Yogi Ferrel in January but he sure as hasn't shown a way to slow down Curry/KD/LeBron/Westbrook etc. And that's the only reason you hold a roster spot (much less starting spot) for a defensive specialist. He's probably only a middling 3-D guy at this point because his reliable 3-ball is gone. It's not 2014 anymore.

this is a bigger concern. nobody is shutting down westbrook/curry/KD... but Green can prevent them from getting easy buckets, which is really all you can ask for. plus his transition defense is legendary and all those players do work in transition.

but yeah, if his shooting is going to remain subpar, it's legitimate to question whether or not it's worth it. he was poor in the playoffs last year, but shot 50% from 3 the season prior (against memphis and okc). FYI westbrook shot like 38% from the field in that series.