Amateur: :lol today’s mentally weak nba players

**LkrFan** · 02-01-2018

The juice and Lamar never played with Kobe,
The juice and Lamar never played with Kobe,
The juice and Lamar never played with Kobe,
The juice and Lamar never played with Kobe,

Repeat it enough times and you can change history.

I knew one of you farmers would bring these two up - SMH. What have either of them done before OR after Kobe?

**djohn2oo8** · 02-01-2018

It's quite disingenuous to blame Kobe for these superstar teams. Alot of this started on the Olympic teams. And to go back even more, starts in AAU ball.

**LkrFan** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by ambchang

They all saw Kobe win 3 as a second banana, failed to actually carry a team, threw the entire lakers franchise under the bus and shined to get MVPau to two more rings then gets mentioned as one of the greats and figured that people only look at ring count and ignore the cir stances so they formed a super team.

As usual, Kobe started this horrible trend. But what lebron failed to do is get a jut jaw look to convince the world how serious he is about winning.

With Kobe: Shaq 3. Without Kobe: 1
With Shaq: Kobe 3. Without Shaq: 2

Boiled down: Kobe 5, Shaq 4.

**LkrFan** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by djohn2oo8

It's quite disingenuous to blame Kobe for these superstar teams. Alot of this started on the Olympic teams. And to go back even more, starts in AAU ball.

- yep yep. Jim lost $12.5M on a failed Maybelline investment. Blame Kobe. Trump can't get MY government to pay for the wall. Blame Kobe.

When will this stop?

**lefty** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by Chris Fall

LeBron had a legitimate reason to leave. He still joined superstar talent to chase rings. If he were successful in recruiting Wade to Cleveland, it's the same thing. It's the same criticism. Superstars joining forces to chase rings. It's. The. Same. Thing. It's still what gets criticized who make the argument oh Jordan wouldn't have joine forces with Magic and Magic wouldn't have joined forces with Bird and so on. Same criticism. Just because LeBron had good reason to leave Cleveland doesn't mean he didn't cop out by joining Wade, Bosh, and Riley.

KG and Ray could still play, but realistically they were at the very backend of their prime, I believe both around 32-33. And it doesn't matter if the trades were rigged. I wouldn't argue they weren't. Point is neither KG nor Ray forced their way to Boston. They didn't conspire to join forces. I'm sure they were happy with what happened. But LeBron and Wade dictated them joining forces. Durant chose to go to Golden State. It was their decisions. That's where the criticism comes from, right? Them choosing to superfriend. Their decision. The Decision.

It's not that KD wasn't a pussy. It's not that it wasn't more pussy than LeBron. Both are true. But LeBron was a pussy too. And his Decision was what started this . I don't see how you could argue it didn't.

LeBron had to carry a team for years.

Jordan would have done the same of Krause didn't put the right pieces together.
People seem to forget how Jordan used throw the Bulls FO under the bus during his first seasons.

When LeBron, MJ said today's players have the opportunity to move more easily than they did back in the days, so he would probably have done the same.

Magic Johnson didn't want to join the Bulls, he wanted to be drafted by the Lakers and play with Kareem

**spurraider21** · 02-01-2018

it would be fascinating to see LeBron go to GSW just to see the mental gymnastics from Zipper Nation

**The Gemini Method** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by spurraider21

it would be fascinating to see LeBron go to GSW just to see the mental gymnastics from Zipper Nation

Probably would rival Chernobyl in terms of meltdowns.

**MultiTroll** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by ambchang

They all saw Kobe win 3 as a second banana, failed to actually carry a team, threw the entire lakers franchise under the bus and shined to get MVPau to two more rings then gets mentioned as one of the greats and figured that people only look at ring count and ignore the cir stances so they formed a super team.

As usual, Kobe started this horrible trend. But what lebron failed to do is get a jut jaw look to convince the world how serious he is about winning.

rack it.

**MultiTroll** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by lefty

LeBron had to carry a team for years.

Jordan would have done the same of Krause didn't put the right pieces together.
People seem to forget how Jordan used throw the Bulls FO under the bus during his first seasons.

When LeBron, MJ said today's players have the opportunity to move more easily than they did back in the days, so he would probably have done the same.

Magic Johnson didn't want to join the Bulls, he wanted to be drafted by the Lakers and play with Kareem

Additionally, Bird was obtained by the Celt by Red working the flawed system Stern had in place.
Drafted at #6 in the 1978 draft, allowed to then play his senior year 78-79 then joined the Celts for 79-80.
Otherwise he surely would have been #1 or #2 (most likely #2) in the same 1979 draft that featured ic to the Flamers as the #1 overall pick.
So much for any "gusty, stick with one team" bull .

They both joined good teams that only got better with even more good additions. (Flamers Worthy with Sterns LakerRefs and meddling, Celts Bob Parrish and McHale, Corny Maxwell and Bill Walton few years later) got Johnson later gifted food stamps in the form of Mic e Thompson, who while not that good, certainly a solid player and the exact position the Flamers were hurting at before the then San Antonio owner gave him away.

**MultiTroll** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by Chris Fall

It's not that KD wasn't a pussy. It's not that it wasn't more pussy than LeBron. Both are true. But LeBron was a pussy too. And his Decision was what started this . I don't see how you could argue it didn't.

So what should and could LeBron have done that you would not consider pussy?

**LkrFan** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by spurraider21

it would be fascinating to see LeBron go to GSW just to see the mental gymnastics from Zipper Nation

Ditto if

**Chris Fall** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by Mul roll

So what should and could LeBron have done that you would not consider pussy?

Not play with Wade and Bosh and not play for a proven championship executive in Riley in order to finally win a ring. He could have gone anywhere else. He could have stayed in Cleveland. Any alternative. Anything but what he did.

You see, I don't blame LeBron for what he did. He felt he had to stack his deck in order to get a championship. Okay. I get it. That's fine. But if people are going to suggest KD was a pussy for joining Curry and Golden State, then those same people should acknowledge LeBron did the same thing. Don't confuse comparing the two with equating the two. I compare the two situations because both chose to join superstar talent in order to ring. I'm not equating the two. They are not exactly the same. KD was worse. That's fine. Different levels of pussy. But both are pussies.

It's like a 250 pound 8 year old kid crying and screaming to his fat camp counselor that at least he's not as fat as the 350 pound 8 year old beached whale on the other side of the puke bucket. Yeah, ok. But you're still a ing fatass. KD is the bigger pussy. Yeah ok. But LeBron is still a pussy.

**Chucho** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by LkrFan

That's the only picture I've seen of Russ in street clothes where he isn't dressed like a .

**Killakobe81** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by Chris Fall

Not play with Wade and Bosh and not play for a proven championship executive in Riley in order to finally win a ring. He could have gone anywhere else. He could have stayed in Cleveland. Any alternative. Anything but what he did.

You see, I don't blame LeBron for what he did. He felt he had to stack his deck in order to get a championship. Okay. I get it. That's fine. But if people are going to suggest KD was a pussy for joining Curry and Golden State, then those same people should acknowledge LeBron did the same thing. Don't confuse comparing the two with equating the two. I compare the two situations because both chose to join superstar talent in order to ring. I'm not equating the two. They are not exactly the same. KD was worse. That's fine. Different levels of pussy. But both are pussies.

It's like a 250 pound 8 year old kid crying and screaming to his fat camp counselor that at least he's not as fat as the 350 pound 8 year old beached whale on the other side of the puke bucket. Yeah, ok. But you're still a ing fatass. KD is the bigger pussy. Yeah ok. But LeBron is still a pussy.

we need some flame emojis for the facts being spit above ...

**spurraider21** · 02-01-2018

still cant believe presti chose perkins over harden

**dfens** · 02-01-2018

Originally Posted by Chris Fall

Not play with Wade and Bosh and not play for a proven championship executive in Riley in order to finally win a ring. He could have gone anywhere else. He could have stayed in Cleveland. Any alternative. Anything but what he did.

You see, I don't blame LeBron for what he did. He felt he had to stack his deck in order to get a championship. Okay. I get it. That's fine. But if people are going to suggest KD was a pussy for joining Curry and Golden State, then those same people should acknowledge LeBron did the same thing. Don't confuse comparing the two with equating the two. I compare the two situations because both chose to join superstar talent in order to ring. I'm not equating the two. They are not exactly the same. KD was worse. That's fine. Different levels of pussy. But both are pussies.

It's like a 250 pound 8 year old kid crying and screaming to his fat camp counselor that at least he's not as fat as the 350 pound 8 year old beached whale on the other side of the puke bucket. Yeah, ok. But you're still a ing fatass. KD is the bigger pussy. Yeah ok. But LeBron is still a pussy.

son stacking the deck means a functioning team not a collection of talents that look nice on ESPN shows ... the cheat had poor health, poor depth and not the greatest talent meshing while GSW was a 73win team, so they're quite different situations.

Lebrick is a pussy for making a mockery out of leaving cleveland and for that choke in 11 ... besides that he has been a chronic overachiever. Any team in the league would gladly take him in this instant. I also understand his frustration of seeing other all time greats with good teams (consistently) when he has to carry bad health (wade, bosh), overrated idiots (kyrie), mental midgets with bad defense (love), or just trash. You give lebronze a teams like kobe/duncan/jordan had and he has 5+ rangz, no question. Smh he got 3 anyway, and against much tougher opposition.