Wormwood on Netflix

[SpursforSix]

I'm not sure what to make of this. 6 episode do entary with short dramatized scenes interspersed with interviews.

About Frank Olson, a bio warfare scientist who worked with the CIA. Apparently, he had seen too much and was going to quit. He then committed suicide by jumping out of a 5th story hotel window with another CIA agent with him in the room. The CIA admitted that they had given Olson doses of LSD without him knowing it and issued an apology at some point. However, Olson's son believes it was a straight up murder. And most of the facts point to that being the case.

It's pretty interesting but I think they could have just done a straight 2 hour do entary.

[Avante]

Since nobody cared about this thread.

I'd rather read than watch TV. And when I do watch TV.....CNN, Sports, movies, History Channel....is it. Now way back in the day with all those westerns, cool, and The Twilight Zone was a must see, as was Amos & Andy. And way way back....Flash Gordon, Zorro (not the Disney version), must sees.

My TV highlights.

The first Superbowl (wasn't called that)
Elvis and The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show
Ozwald shot by Ruby as it happened
Gorgeous George
Bullet Bob Hayes (64 Olympics) coming from way back on a 4x1 anchor leg to,.,....WOW~~~~~
Jim Brown
Gale Sayers










Due to injuries in the heats Mel Pender (Army) and Trenton (Illinois) Jackson (RB with Eagles to be) two of our 100m cats had to be replaced by our 200m sprinters Paul Drayton (Villanova) and Richard Stebbins (Grambling). The white guy was Gerry Ashworth out of Dartmouth (the last white USA sprinter on an Oly 4x1 team).







While in HS he led the nation in the long jump and his older bro Roger (world class sprinter) once beat the great Bob Hayes in a 100 yard dash.


Imagine watching football with no instant replays and hard hits were hard hits. Also imagine watching all white teams play.

[Avante]

As we know SFS has talked about running a 20.00 200m while a middle school kid.

So who here really believes some middle school kid is running stride for stride with the Olympic champion here?






That is what a 20.00 looks like.


So some kid is tying for the gold, hahaha~~~~

Olympic, Munich 1972
1	Valeriy Borzov	URS	20.00
2	Larry Black	USA	20.19
3	Pietro Mennea	ITA	20.30
4	Larry Burton	USA	20.37
5	Chuck Smith	USA	20.55
6	Siegfried Schenke	GDR	20.56
7	Martin Jellinghaus	FRG	20.65
8	Hans-Joachim Zenk	GDR	21.05

You've all seen the speedy Tyreek Hill run. While in HS he ran an amazing 20.14, so some midddle school kid would have beat him at 200m, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~

Best HS kids in the nation at 200m, in 2017.

200 METERS
20.51		**Tyrese Cooper (Norland, Miami Gardens, Fl)
20.54		*Kalon Barnes (Silsbee, Tx)
20.57		*Jamal Walton’ (Miramar, Fl)
20.66		*Anthony Schwartz (American Heritage, Plantation, Fl)
20.71		*Elija Godwin (Newton, Covington, Ga)
		Kary Vincent (Memorial, Pt Arthur, Tx)
20.82		Khance Meyers (East, Kentwood, Mi)
20.83		*Tyson Campbell (American Heritage, Plantation, Fl)
20.84		Isaiah Cunningham (Rancho Verde, Moreno Valley, Ca)
20.91		*Shaun Shivers (Chaminade-Madonna, Hollywood, Fl)

The last Olympics were held in 2016, so SFS would have won the silver as a middle school kid?

Olympic, Rio de Janeiro 2016
1	Usain Bolt	JAM	19.78
2	Andre De Grasse	CAN	20.02
3	Christophe Lemaitre	FRA	20.12
4	Adam Gemili	GBR	20.12
5	Churandy Martina	NED	20.13
6	LaShawn Merritt	USA	20.19
7	Alonso Edward	PAN	20.23
8	Ramil Guliyev	TUR	20.43

The fastest 200m ever ran by a teenager in Texas was 20.13*** by Roosevelt HS's Roy Martin, he'd make out 1988 Olympic team.

*** that was the HS record until a couple seasons ago. It stood for a long long time.

Noah Lyles (dad was a world class 400m cat) breaking Martin;s HS record taking 4th.






New record......20.09, BUT.....some middle school kid ran a 20.00

[Avante]

There was a freak of nature once upon time. His name was.....Houston McTear***.....he was a Floridian. As a junior in HS at the Florida State Champs he ran a 9.0.....100 yards to tie the World Record held ny Southern Illinois Ivory Crockett.

Averaged over 13 yards a carry as a RB for Baker HS.

Speaking of freaks....

The first time women ran in an Olympic 100m was in 1932, a 16 year old girl Betty Robinson in her 4th 100m won the Olympic 100m.


*** saw him run in Fresno while at Santa Monica JC***. He anchored a 4x2 relay, yep......he got the stick a good 10m down and yep.....wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo....only to ease up at the finish with a....ho hum ...look on his face.




*** could have been Cerritos, he ran for both.

Ah.....he was never the Worlds Fastest Man, so they got a little carried away.


He was ranked number two, never number one.

1977

1................... Eugen Ray (East Germany)
2............................ Houston McTear (US)
3............................... Steve Williams (US)
4........................... Silvio Leonard (Cuba)
5............................ Clancy Edwards (US)
6.......................... Don Quarrie (Jamaica)
7.................. Hasely Crawford (Trinidad)
8................................ Johnny Jones (US)...........Jets WR to be.
9............................. Pietro Mennea (Italy)

10.............................. Steve Rid (US)

[Avante]

Got into this stuff in the late 50's, noway in is some middle shool kid running a 20.00 AND if that had happened it would be HUGE, MASSIVE, GINORMOUS....news. The kid would be on all the talk shows, every track coach in the nation would be on his door step. This goes way beyond just some track time, now we are talking .....the supernatural.....the abnormal.....the weird. Kid would be on the cover of SI with a story.

This was prior to 2000 as was SFS 20.00 here in Cali.


TOP 50 MARKS OF THE CENTURY

1 Kareem Kelly LB Poly S 20.76 200M 1998 w+1.5 20.76............USC WR
1 Henry Thomas Hawthorne S # 20.77 200M 1984 w-0.02 20.77
1 Kevin Whilhite Cordova SJ 20.81 200M 1981 w-0.01 20.81............Broncos RB
1 Barry Smith Mission SF 20.82 200M 1989 w+1.73 20.82
1 Bryan Harrison Dana Hills S 20.82 200M 1995 w+2.9 20.82
1 Mel Clipper Muir S # 20.7 220Y 1958 20.82
1 Mel Gray Montgomery NC ##20.7 220Y 1967 Run on curve 20.82............Cards WR
1 Michael Marsh Hawthorne S 20.83 200M 1985 w+5.0 cold 20.83..................................1992 Olympic gold medalist
1 Ricky Carrigan Compton S 20.84 200M 1991 w+3.5 20.84
1 David Russell Henry SD 20.97 220Y 1977 w+4.8 20.85
1 Michael Sanford Pasadena S 21.00 220Y 1979 w+3.67 20.88
2 Anthony Ford Compton S 20.89 200M 1985 w+5.0 cold 20.89
2 Curtis Conway Hawthorne S 20.89 200M 1989 w+1.73 20.89..............Bears WR

[AaronY]

[Avante]

It's real simple.

We have a a guy lying about running a 20.00 200m. Why I don't know. All I'm doing is showng just how ridiculous that claim really is.

I can see him confusing a 24/25 not getting what a 20.00 really is. If he really understood...20.00...he'd know the impossibilities of some kid running a 20.00.

This is the 2017 season in the USA, talking the best Americans not kids.

So some middle school kid is running with the best in the USA, hahahaha~~~~~~~

200 METERS
19.85		*Christian Coleman (Tn)	NCAA East	05/27
19.90		Noah Lyles (adidas)	Shanghai DL	05/13
19.98		——Coleman	SEC	05/13
20.00		——Lyles	Brussels DL	09/01
20.01		-Christopher Belcher (NCAT)	NCAA	06/07
		Ameer Webb (Nike)	Brussels DL	09/01
20.06		——Belcher	NCAA East	05/26
20.07		——Coleman	NCAA East	05/26
20.09		——Webb	USATF	06/25
20.10		——Coleman	USATF	06/

[Chucho]

Stop the campaigning. You aren't the expert and no one is seeking any track and field answers anyways. Experts don't make the questions, they answer the questions.

[Avante]

Stop the campaigning. You aren't the expert and no one is seeking any track and field answers anyways. Experts don't make the questions, they answer the questions.

Dude, no expert is thinking some middle school kid is running a 20,.00 200m, ok? That would be impossible.

[Chucho]

Dude, no expert is thinking some middle school kid is running a 20,.00 200m, ok? That would be impossible.

That has nothing to do with why you're not pgardn or Spurs for 6. They're the experts because they are asked questions and answer them when asked.

[Avante]

That has nothing to do with why you're not pgardn or Spurs for 6. They're the experts because they are asked questions and answer them when asked.

They both buy into a middle school kid running a 20.00. That tells us right they they know...0....about sprinting.


Dude, see this....

Europe, Amsterdam 2016
1	Bruno Hortelano	ESP	20.45
2	Ramil Guliyev	TUR	20.51
3	Danny Talbot	GBR	20.56
4	Solomon Bockarie	NED	20.56
5	Nethaneel Mitc -Blake	GBR	20.60
6	Davide Manenti	ITA	20.66
7	Alex Wilson	SUI	20.70
N	Churandy Martina	NED	DQ

So some middle school kid would be the fastest sprinter in all of Europe in 2016?

Hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~

Ask either one of them about just who were those guys and it's......huh????

[Chucho]

They both buy into a middle school kid running a 20.00. That tells us right they they know...0....about sprinting.


Dude, see this....

Europe, Amsterdam 2016
1	Bruno Hortelano	ESP	20.45
2	Ramil Guliyev	TUR	20.51
3	Danny Talbot	GBR	20.56
4	Solomon Bockarie	NED	20.56
5	Nethaneel Mitc -Blake	GBR	20.60
6	Davide Manenti	ITA	20.66
7	Alex Wilson	SUI	20.70
N	Churandy Martina	NED	DQ

So some middle school kid would be the fastest sprinter in all of Europe in 2016?

Hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~

Ask either one of them about just who were those guys and it's......huh????

Look, man, I go to them in the rare instances when I have inquiries about track and field, those are the guys I go to, as does all of ST.

Contrary to your deep beliefs, no one really cares too much about track and field and it's rarely discussed here. But, again, when that rarity does occur, pgardn and Spurs for 6 are the go-to guys and that's not likely that's going to change.

Sorry, fella. It's just what it is.

[Avante]

Look, man, I go to them in the rare instances when I have inquiries about track and field, those are the guys I go to, as does all of ST.

Contrary to your deep beliefs, no one really cares too much about track and field and it's rarely discussed here. But, again, when that rarity does occur, pgardn and Spurs for 6 are the go-to guys and that's not likely that's going to change.

Sorry, fella. It's just what it is.

Dude, why is it ya totally ignore what people say to you? So forget the fact both think some kid can run a 20.00.....right? Do you even know how stupid that is, ya dont do ya?

Ask either one of them anything at all about the athletes in the sport, you'll get.........huh??????

[Avante]

Imagine a middle school trying to play NFL football, oh yes the kid was great in middle school. That is what is being talked about here, the exact same thing. That is how ridiculous this is.

Doesn't anyone get this......Bob Hayes a 20.5 WR 200m, so we have a guy here who while in middle school was far faster than the great Bob Hayes, hahahaha~~~~~~~

[SpursforSix]

Imagine a middle school trying to play NFL football, oh yes the kid was great in middle school. That is what is being talked about here, the exact same thing. That is how ridiculous this is.

Doesn't anyone get this......Bob Hayes a 20.5 WR 200m, so we have a guy here who while in middle school was far faster than the great Bob Hayes, hahahaha~~~~~~~

That's a terrible analogy.

[Avante]

That's a terrible analogy.

That's what a terrible lie gets.

I keep waiting for.....ok ok ok, dude, just messing with ya, ok? Let it go, alright? I don't remember what I ran so just goofing off...ok?

[SpursforSix]

That's what a terrible lie gets.

I must have missed something. What are you talking about now?

[Avante]

Dude, why the lie about 20.00.....well?

Look at his 200m times


http://trackfield.brinkster.net/Prof...&EventCode=MA1

....so you were faster than Bob Hayes in middle school, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Chucho]

Imagine a middle school trying to play NFL football, oh yes the kid was great in middle school. That is what is being talked about here, the exact same thing. That is how ridiculous this is.

Doesn't anyone get this......Bob Hayes a 20.5 WR 200m, so we have a guy here who while in middle school was far faster than the great Bob Hayes, hahahaha~~~~~~~

You totally ignored EVERYTHING I said.

1. You can stop campaigning.

2. You answer questions no one is asking.

3. pgardn and Spurs for 6 are the experts on track and field, not you.

4. No one really cares to talk track and field that much, if at all.

[SpursforSix]

Dude, why the lie about 20.00.....well?

Look at his 200m times


http://trackfield.brinkster.net/Prof...&EventCode=MA1

....so you were faster than Bob Hayes in middle school, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've conceded numerous times that it might have been slower than 20.00. I said "20 something". Could have been a 20.5 or 20.6. I doubt it was a 20.9 because I wouldn't have rounded that to a 20. But it's possible.

In any even, I don't dwell on it. Unlike Hayes and the other great sprinters, I never did anything with it.

[Avante]

You totally ignored EVERYTHING I said.

1. You can stop campaigning.

2. You answer questions no one is asking.

3. pgardn and Spurs for 6 are the experts on track and field, not you.

4. No one really cares to talk track and field that much, if at all.

Dude, anyone thinking some middle school kid is capable of running the 200m in 20.00, knows....0.....about sprinting, got it?

[Avante]

I've conceded numerous times that it might have been slower than 20.00. I said "20 something". Could have been a 20.5 or 20.6. I doubt it was a 20.9 because I wouldn't have rounded that to a 20. But it's possible.

In any even, I don't dwell on it. Unlike Hayes and the other great sprinters, I never did anything with it.

I have no doubts ya ran a 20....but it was....24, 25 ish. Not 20. anything, ok? Middle school kids can't run a 20...point...ok?

A HS kid running sub 21.00 will have schools recruiting him. Who did you talk with? A middle school kid running a sub 21.00 is HUGE.

You actually don't get just how massive the difference between 20.00 and 20.90 even is. So why say 20.00 at all?

You lied then found out just how damn stupid it was trying to sell a 20.00 for some kid.

[Chucho]

Dude, anyone thinking some middle school kid is capable of running the 200m in 20.00, knows....0.....about sprinting, got it?

I'm sorry, you're not an expert. I can't take your word for it.

[Avante]

I'm sorry, you're not an expert. I can't take your word for it.

You don't have to take my word for it, do your own research. THINK....HS record is 20.09, so long ago some middle school kid ran a 20.00? Dude, the facts are facts, ok?

Dude, only an idioit ignores the records, ok?

[Chucho]

You don't have to take my word for it, do your own research. THINK....HS record is 20.09, so long ago some middle school kid ran a 20.00? Dude, the facts are facts, ok?

Dude, only an idioit ignores the records, ok?

And you don't know what acceleration is, despite it being centuries-old fact. How can you be trusted? Should I ask underage Pinoy s?