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    So two Trump appointees signed off on Carter Page FISA extensions, which were approved.

    Are they in on muh conspiracy too?

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    The funding of the opposition research used to obtain FISA warrant was hidden from court during application
    The deputy attorney general was feeding the FBI his wife's opposition research while his wife's employment by Fusion GPS was also hidden from the FISC court.
    The DOJ used a Yahoo news story (Isikoff), provided to Yahoo by Steele, as evidence for a FISA warrant.

    no damage
    What's your opinion of the FBI using "Clinton Cash" to launch an investigation of the Clinton Foundation?

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    One thing is clear. The drama of both Nunes and Schiff was unwarranted.

    It’s not a nothingburger. But, also not what it was hyped to be.

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    The funding of the opposition research used to obtain FISA warrant was hidden from court during application

    The deputy attorney general was feeding the FBI his wife's opposition research while his wife's employment by Fusion GPS was also hidden from the FISC court.
    They don't have to be named. If the source is merely said to be anti-Trump, that's fine according to people who actually know these things.
    The DOJ used a Yahoo news story (Isikoff), provided to Yahoo by Steele, as evidence for a FISA warrant.
    Nope, the more likely explanation is to show the story had already gone public and the subject could be working to cover his tracks.

    no damage
    More innuendo is not damage.

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    damn. i typed nothing burger into google and nunes picture pops up.

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    TSA?
    So two Trump appointees signed off on Carter Page FISA extensions, which were approved.

    Are they in on muh conspiracy too?

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    So, Wray was seriously considering quitting over the release of this memo?

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    Got it!
    Chuck Woolery lol

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    Why do you ask stupid questions someone couldn't know the answer to and then expect an answer?

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    So, Wray was seriously considering quitting over the release of this memo?
    No that was fake news.

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    Why do you ask stupid questions someone couldn't know the answer to and then expect an answer?
    The narrative is that the FISA warrant on Page was completely illegitimate because of muh dossier.

    Boente and Rosenstein signed off on extensions to the warrant originally based on muh dossier. Both were approved.

    So are they in on the conspiracy now? It's not like they didn't know about muh dossier or Page.

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    The narrative is that the FISA warrant on Page was completely illegitimate because of muh dossier.

    Boente and Rosenstein signed off on extensions to the warrant originally based on muh dossier. Both were approved.

    So are they in on the conspiracy now? It's not like they didn't know about muh dossier or Page.
    We would have to know if Rosenstein or Boente knew that the Steele dossier was paid for by the DNC or if they were kept in the dark like the FISC was.

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    We would have to know if Rosenstein or Boente knew that the Steele dossier was paid for by the DNC or if they were kept in the dark like the FISC was.
    Oh, so they just didn't ask anything about the source material for the applications they were signing.

    They're just rubber stamps according to you.

    lol

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    Accusing anyone else of dreaming with that horse .
    ing dreamers

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    Oh, so they just didn't ask anything about the source material for the applications they were signing.

    They're just rubber stamps according to you.

    lol
    Did Rosenstein or Boente know that the Steele dossier was paid for by the DNC?

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    Did Rosenstein or Boente know that the Steele dossier was paid for by the DNC?
    You said they rubber stamped the applications without knowing anything about muh dossier.

    This is your narrative.

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    You don't know if the court is concerned with using paid for opposition research to obtain a FISA warrant?

    I agree with you on getting answers by releasing the source do ents and I believe that will be the next step.
    I'm not familiar with the FISC procedures/protocols. That said, I can't imagine the disclosure obligations are that different than what I have to follow in my every day practice.

    The issue I have with the memo is this: is there a claim that any of the allegations against Carter Page were inaccurate or misleading? I'm talking about the factual allegations that the FISC evaluated in determining whether to issue (and renew) the warrant? Just because the intel may come from a source that has received funding from a partisan does not mean that the intelligence itself is inaccurate or misleading. Plus, there's the added issue of what knowledge, if any, the DOJ/FBI had as to the source of Steele's funding.

    Courts and juries have to evaluate testimony that comes from biased sources all the time. That's the way the system is set up. Would it have been better to disclose the source of this information? Sure. But, I still don't see why that failure implicates anything here.

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    You haven't read the memo.
    Have you read the whole 99 page? please expand, I demand a very informative papyrus.

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    Also that bas McCain is not smiling now, so it must be good.

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    Have you read the whole 99 page? please expand, I demand a very informative papyrus.
    call that little pav out!

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    Have you read the whole 99 page? please expand, I demand a very informative papyrus.
    It's 3.25 pages.

    You thought the memo was 99 pages long.

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    I'm not familiar with the FISC procedures/protocols. That said, I can't imagine the disclosure obligations are that different than what I have to follow in my every day practice.

    The issue I have with the memo is this: is there a claim that any of the allegations against Carter Page were inaccurate or misleading? I'm talking about the factual allegations that the FISC evaluated in determining whether to issue (and renew) the warrant? Just because the intel may come from a source that has received funding from a partisan does not mean that the intelligence itself is inaccurate or misleading. Plus, there's the added issue of what knowledge, if any, the DOJ/FBI had as to the source of Steele's funding.

    Courts and juries have to evaluate testimony that comes from biased sources all the time. That's the way the system is set up. Would it have been better to disclose the source of this information? Sure. But, I still don't see why that failure implicates anything here.
    The dossier claimed that Page met with Russians and discussed quid-pro-quo deals relating to sanctions and Russia's interference in the election, that never happened. Comey himself said the dossier was salacious and unverified. The deputy attorney general's wife worked for Fusion GPS, the DOJ knew who was funding the dossier.

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    I guess if the memo said there was no reason at all to investigate Carter Page or renew the FISA warrants on him three times well into the Trump administration -- that would be noteworthy.

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