Spurs targeting Knicks big man hernangomez and Pistons Johnson in trade?

[SpurPadre]

Weird ing last name...it should be either Hernan-Gomez or Hernan as middle name and just Gomez as the last name but instead, it's just sandwiched together. You could google search Hernangomez and this dude is the only person in the world with that last name.

[objective]

Mostly good points save for the bolded:

This Mills is an under performing shooter is odd. His 3pt and 2pt shooting numbers are pretty similar to last season and down slightly from his Spurs career shooting numbers. He's taking 4.7 3's (career high) and hitting 38% which is certainly solid, especially without Leonard there to set him up.

Also the "especially past the 1st round" line discounts what he did to Miami in the Finals 13-23 from 3 in limited bench minutes. Defenses tend to get tougher and clamp down on shooters in later rounds, so a great shooter dropping from, say 40% to 34-5% certainly isn't unheard of.

I think you're being a little dramatic on the he's an anchor line. His contract is a clear overpay. Murray taking the starting spot makes Mills expendable, but that is how useful players tend to come available. Someone emerges as an alternative and then they become expendable. Spurs will operate above the cap in the off season and probably resign Gay, Green, Anderson, Parker, use their draft pick and bring in a vet big. Gasol's contract is only partially guaranteed for the season after that and he may retire meaning he'll get stretched and waived (2.3 million for three seasons starting in '19-20)


There's the very small but who knows option of Lebron meeting and agreeing to join the Spurs in which Mills and Gasol would make up the basis of a S&T package to Cleveland.


Overall, the idea of a Mills for Amir Johnson deal is interesting and probably pretty plausible. If a deal were to happen/ then I would hope for some sweetener such as the Knicks second rounder (currently the 42nd pick)

Miami was 3 full seasons, a shoulder surgery, and what looks like 20 pounds ago.

The last two years, 2nd and 3rd rounds, he's near what, 22% from three? I haven't done the math for awhile, but that rings a bell.

[NASpurs]

Pathetic if true. We need efficient scorers. Defense ain't the problem.

Reggie Bullock is exactly what we need. Since he's started for them in Dec 12, he's shooting 54.5% from the field and 49.5% from three

Those numbers would drop to 40% from the field and 35% from three if he was traded to the Spurs. RIP Beautiful Game.

[Hoops Czar]

What't the point? Neither of those players are game changers. It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the antic. It's not going to change the outcome. They're simply not compe ive enough to win a championship.

[NASpurs]

Weird ing last name...it should be either Hernan-Gomez or Hernan as middle name and just Gomez as the last name but instead, it's just sandwiched together. You could google search Hernangomez and this dude is the only person in the world with that last name.

Impossible since he has a brother playing in the NBA

[SpurPadre]

ok, then only two people in the entire world with that last name. It's gotta be a weird stage name, tbh.

[sasaint]

I mentioned above that it's a bad move but to play devils advocate;

Willy's deal expires the same off season that Noah's would and the Spurs would have his bird rights to resign him but he wouldn't be an RFA (one of those 4 year, fully guaranteed, second round pick deals ) Noah would be a huge expiring contract during the 19-20 season (something like $19 million) that would allow the Spurs to add better players on longer term deals that teams are looking to off load to save open up cap space.

The Spurs could probably easily package the 12th and 25 pick's and get into the top ten.

Spurs would still pay Noah but could keep him away from the team, the Knicks have mastered this strategy (Marbury, Eddie Curry).

Gasol has probably been the second best Spur this season, he's improved defensively and has developed into a reliable 3 point shooter on top of being an excellent passer and can attack mismatches in the post. Its hard to Devils Advocate him getting dumped on the Knicks and it not having a really bad affect on the Spurs. I really like Willy's potential on the Spurs, on top of his age (23 and a 1/2) and having two super cheap seasons after this one left after this one.

If the Spurs could get Willy (not apart of that hypothetical deal) without giving up any of our young players with upside (Bertans, White, Anderson, Murray, or a 1st - the last three would never be apart of a deal for him) then its a steal in my opinion.

I thought the trade machine indicates Willy's contract expired in 2 years and Noah's in four. So I was surprised by that part of your comment, but you are right: they are both slated to become UFAs in 2019-20. So that is a real positive.

[sasaint]

ok, then only two people in the entire world with that last name. It's gotta be a weird stage name, tbh.

They may have parents...

[marinoman]

What't the point? Neither of those players are game changers. It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the antic. It's not going to change the outcome. They're simply not compe ive enough to win a championship.

Seriously, people get excited over any possible tradetalks for the spurs. Paus contract and bad guard play were this teams main issues going into the last years offseason and its shown all year.
these jobbers won’t fix anything

[SpurPadre]

They may have parents...

stage name, tbh. Kinda like Nicholas Cage's parents have Coppola as their last name, tbh.

[sasaint]

stage name, tbh. Kinda like Nicholas Cage's parents have Coppola as their last name, tbh.

You serious? Stage name for basketball?

[SpurPadre]

You serious? Stage name for basketball?

I know, dude is a weird mother er. I don't want him, tbh.

[sasaint]

I know, dude is a weird mother er. I don't want him, tbh.

I like what I have seen of him on the court. What makes him so weird-other than his stage name?

[SpurPadre]

I like what I have seen of him on the court. What makes him so weird-other than his stage name?

Just kidding. He definitely would be an upgrade over Joffrey. I'm more intrigued with Stanley Johnson, though.

[Ice009]

Miami was 3 full seasons, a shoulder surgery, and what looks like 20 pounds ago.

The last two years, 2nd and 3rd rounds, he's near what, 22% from three? I haven't done the math for awhile, but that rings a bell.

He also couldn't hit a shot to save his life in the series before the finals against one of our biggest rivals in OKC. He was NOT that valuable during the 2014 playoffs at all.

I give him huge props for game 6 of the OKC series, but the rest of his playoffs apart from those 3 games against Miami weren't that good at all.

[objective]

He's not guarding anyone either.

Cameron Payne and Andrew Harrison looked like NBA players against him. Austin Rivers saved his career styling on the Spurs.

[MaNu4Tres]

He's not guarding anyone either.

Cameron Payne and Andrew Harrison looked like NBA players against him. Austin Rivers saved his career styling on the Spurs.

He's this generations Steve Kerr, yet gets paid 52 mil over 4 AFTER Spurs draft two guards in the 1st round in back to back seasons.

[TheDoctor]

Weird ing last name...it should be either Hernan-Gomez or Hernan as middle name and just Gomez as the last name but instead, it's just sandwiched together. You could google search Hernangomez and this dude is the only person in the world with that last name.

Add Ethnography to the wide range of specializations mastered in SpursTalk.

[TD 21]

I just don’t see their cap space being an issue. The net difference in Mills/Saric is like 8M and they will only have like 70M on the books. It really is not a hinderance at all IMO.

But if you want a shooter and don’t want to give up picks, how do they plan on getting said shooter?

Maybe not, but like I said, they're not trading a core player for a better version of a type they already have. There's plenty of shooters available for 2nd round picks, that are on expiring contracts (Babbitt, Belinelli, Ilyasova, Harris and to a lesser extent Ennis, Carter).

Also keep in mind, a McConnell / Mills backup backcourt makes about as much sense as a Parker / Mills ones does and if / when Fultz returns this season, they'll have to have at least a clear path to a rotation spot available to avoid controversy and destroying his confidence.

[Chinook]

Saric is probably not untouchable, but he's a non-starter in any Mills trade from Philly's perspective. Dude is playing well for them, and they are determined to play Simmons as a guard. I doubt the team would get a better offer than Bayless and a second. That would be a lucky offer, and one I don't think they'd even extend until later in July when/if they miss out on cap space while letting Re walk. Patty is a good fit for them, but he's probably still neutral or negative value unless he really tears it up this season.

[pad300]

If I was trading Mills to Philly, I would be looking for Amir Johnson.

[Ice009]

If I was trading Mills to Philly, I would be looking for Amir Johnson.

Yeah, I'd be going for Amir Johnson too.

[CGD]

I’d do Mills to Milwaukee for Delladodova and DJ Wilson. Della has fewer years and Mills would be an upgrade for a team that’s been interested in the past. We get a look at DJ, whose an intriguing prospect.

If they still want Hernangomez after netting Wilson, then you’d have to think the only thing at the price point that the Knicks might be interested in is NY native, Kyle Anderson. Not sure that moves the needle for the spurs.

[Diego20]

Hernangomez sucks

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