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When people say he's posting up 45% of the time, I'm not sure they realize it's 45% of his own FGA, not 45% of the team's FGA while he's on the floor.
Bingo!
When people say he's posting up 45% of the time, I'm not sure they realize it's 45% of his own FGA, not 45% of the team's FGA while he's on the floor.
Nice strawman and glaring oversimplification. Of course you have to be able to hit the 3 to win nowadays.
If the post up forces a double team -our's does- then cutters and spacing can get layups and wide open 3's. LBJ and Durant have their most efficient scoring out of postups because of this dynamic. We are just not executing well enough out of double teams. Shore that up and combine that with pnr and postups from Kawhi and you have the nucleus of a potent offense.
No one is advocating a one trick pony. It doesn't matter what that trick is it is going to fail.
That was the terrible start, the TO didn’t help. They got better in the 2nd half specially Aldridge bc he went to his move quickly. Holding the ball agains swarming defenses is a recipe for TO.
That’s true. Several 3 pt shooters have been slumping.
I agree with your interpretation. I deduced the same.
No, it's not; actually.
Aldridge post ups: 45.8 FG% - 45.8 EFG%
Manu pick and roll: 54.6 FG% - 60 EFG%
Aldridge fade away clanks often result in easy transition 2 for the opponent. Especially runners like Houston.
When you have non defenders like Fatty Mills and Parker to defend while Kwa is on the bench, forgettabou .
2-8 Mills and 0-6 on treys
2-8 GNob with 3 turnovers
1-5 Bertie
But this is why Manu much as we love him only patches things up like a band aid.
He can’t carry your team at this stage. He can only do so in short spurts and a few minutes at a time, this why Pop still runs PNR with mills who is terrible at it and why everyone else from DIjon, Danny, Kyle etc even Forbes runs them too when the ball swings and they aren’t as good as Manu is. They can give you flashes too but not enough consistency to go through them every time.
And Tony who is a fine PNR player has been in a slump himself and is a bench player right now (and not a very good one since he’s slumping)...
Oh, for sure. I'm not saying Manu should be getting more touches. His efficiency would plummet if that was the case. I'm just proving how much of an inefficient play the post up is by comparing the post ups of an all-star player to the pick and rolls of a 40 year old.
Manu pick and roll Points Per Possession : 0.94
Aldridge post up Points Per Possession : 0.96
Not sure why you're using FG% for this. There are turnovers, going to the free throw line possibilities, etc.
And there's also assists. Those 0.94 and 0.96 are the pts the player (not the team) score per each of that play they perform.
And in any case, again, 0.94 40 year old vs 0.96 all-star. A virtual tie, when that shouldn't be the case.
True but bc of the personnel they have they can’t do more. As you said Manu can’t do them too much. Tony can’t and shouldn’t for more than a few opportunities either. And everyone else is a developing player which means you give opportunities to everyone and stick with the hot hand. The default is going to Aldridge. He’s always going to get his post up touches Tim got them too tbh, even past his prime but it wasn’t that frequent bc the team had great perimeter playmakers. This team right now doesn’t. They need Kiwi back and to look at themselves in the mirror this summer. I think right now they are doing the best they can with the guys available and the current level of play of young guards like Dijon and Forbes.
I agree with all of that, tbh.
In the second half spurs went away from lamarcus postup. It was motion & pnr offense mainly . Problem is theres only 2 players aged 35 plus that know to run it wirh their bigs. Doesnt help they are just role players now.
Strange bump by OP.. Spurs adjusted to what he wants in second half & stil failed. Also keeps ignoring spurs
missing 2 key players that would change the dynamic of their offense bigtime. Conclusion , he doesnt understand the game or didnt watch it.
Do you have a source for that? That's not my understanding of the stat.
relative to the rest of the league we're winning.
we won last year in the playoffs til we hit one of the greatest teams of all time. we had good position to steal the first game, when our mvp went down.
i feel frustrated, not fatalistic. big if at this point, but IF we can get gay back at full strength, kawhi 100%, lma continuing to put in the work...i like our chances as much as anyone's vs state
rockets? everything the rockets do, the dubs do better. harden and paul are playoff chokers until proven otherwise, period.
okc? first season together and they suddenly get it together enough to put down the warriors? with westchuck? the same guy who threw up that re ed 3 in game 6 2014?
timbs? seriously?
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We won the second half by 5 points after getting killed by 16 in the first. A 21 pts turnaround.
You still dont get it. Spurs lost the game . The type of offense you calling for is not possible if the personall available cant maximize their best player on the acive roster right now. That's what happened in the second half.We won the second half by 5 points after getting killed by 16 in the first. A 21 pts turnaround.
The way Tony & manu were able utilise LA against Utah is what im talking about but spurs depending on two aging playmakers & couldn't get stops.
they're the only two guards with any sort of competence at getting the ball to LMA in good position; a shame that they're on the way out of the NBA
The sad part is i don't see their pnr game rubbing off on dj at all .
i'm not seeing the progression there i'd like. he still spends too much damn time on the perimeter. just hands the ball off at the top of the key and doesn't really put pressure on the defense
Dude, you said we used that type of offense on the second half and we won the second half. What more do you want?
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