Manu: “I don’t remember being in anything like this in 16 years... We're terrible."

[Mikeanaro]

It is funny that this forum has been discussing replacing Parker and Ginobili's load since the 2015 exit, tbh..you could argue that they're hoping Murray will replace Parker(although they don't play anything alike and Murray isn't even a real PG, atm), but they haven't addressed the Manu role..

I assumed it would be Simmons, but that ended quickly..

Signing Mills(isn't a real PG or legit SG) to a long-term deal with Parker still on the roster(and wants to play until he's 40) throws a wrench into everything..

They may not find new replacements, but also they want to keep an antiquated basketball style and thats another problem until Pop retires.
Also there is a lot of unnecessary passes that get predictable, more pizzaface-style.

[ElNono]

It is funny that this forum has been discussing replacing Parker and Ginobili's load since the 2015 exit, tbh..you could argue that they're hoping Murray will replace Parker(although they don't play anything alike and Murray isn't even a real PG, atm), but they haven't addressed the Manu role..

I assumed it would be Simmons, but that ended quickly..

Signing Mills(isn't a real PG or legit SG) to a long-term deal with Parker still on the roster(and wants to play until he's 40) throws a wrench into everything..

Spursfan take HoF talent for granted, tbh...

Heck, I'm feeling like Portlandfan right now, hopping from TD to LMA...

[gambit1990]

“but we’re the third seed”

there’s GSW and HOU. and then there’s everyone else. if the spurs go on a losing streak and they could easily be #6. it’s not like far and away from a lower seed.

spurs are also played a bunch of scrub teams the first half of the season.

[Hoops Czar]

“but we’re the third seed”

there’s GSW and HOU. and then there’s everyone else. if the spurs go on a losing streak and they could easily be #6. it’s not like far and away from a lower seed.

spurs are also played a bunch of scrub teams the first half of the season.

Third seeded Spurs living rent free in Gambit1990's head.

[TheDoctor]

[SAGirl]

Manu is having his best season in years, he’s one of the greatest 40 year olds ever, far from washed up

his age shows on defense tbh... a lot. he is fouling up a ton and he just can't keep up at times with the NBA athletes. Pop playing him as a 4 in undersized lineups doesn't do him any favors either tbh..

reference teh Pop is done critical threads.

[SAGirl]

Yes, but anytime you are relying on a 40 year old guard to win games in the NBA, you are in trouble.

specially when you expect that 40 year old to play both ends and cover up for playing in lineups with 2 or 3 other guys who are 6'2" or less...

[SAGirl]

Spurs aren't winning anything this season... I made my peace with that... Just got to hope Rudy and Kawhi get back so that PATFO doesn't have the excuse that they were never healthy... bc if they don't come back, they can always explain away underperforming from that perspective.

If Kawhi doesn't get back they will have other problems... really scary situation moving forward.

[Atl Spur]

They may not find new replacements, but also they want to keep an antiquated basketball style and thats another problem until Pop retires.
Also there is a lot of unnecessary passes that get predictable, more pizzaface-style.

Is it really antiquated?? Golden State , Utah, and many others take from him all the time! Do your homework.

[Mikeanaro]

Is it really antiquated?? Golden State , Utah, and many others take from him all the time! Do your homework.

Golden State took parts of the book, but they play more run & gun is not even close.
Having influences doesnt make you a copycat, big difference.

[Pocho La Pantera]

People here that criticized Tony and Manu will realize how hard it will be to replace them, it'll take many years and it'll never be the same without both of them.

[Ice009]

Manu's never affected anything IMO in regards to his salary. He's been paid pretty much what he deserves every season he's been here. Tony on the other hand has been overpaid since 2015 IMO.

[Brazil]

News flash for ST posters...

1- A team entirely built around one player is playing like crap because that player did not play any relevant minutes yet
2- It is hard to replace HOFers Manu freaking Ginobili and Tony Parker and it is going to take time... duh
3- Spurs sans Kawhi stands no chance against Houston and GSW... duh
4- Spurs remain a small market team that cannot attract the Kevin Durants of the league... duh

except for that anything new ?

[r0drig0lac]

News flash for ST posters...

1- A team entirely built around one player is playing like crap because that player did not play any relevant minutes yet
2- It is hard to replace HOFers Manu freaking Ginobili and Tony Parker and it is going to take time... duh
3- Spurs sans Kawhi stands no chance against Houston and GSW... duh
4- Spurs remain a small market team that cannot attract the Kevin Durants of the league... duh

except for that anything new ?

I wish this team really had been built around Kawhi Leonard as some here have repeatedly stated

rockets 2017: a team built around its star (Harden) to maximize its strengths

spurs 17-18: a team DEPENDENT of as Kawhi Leonard plays to look elite against the rest of the league

are different things

[sananspursfan21]

2010 team beat a second seeded Mavs team. They were just injured a lot.

Yes but they were far from fantastic. They were then swept handily by a not-that-great Phoenix team

[Ice009]

Yep, I'd say for sure that this team isn't built around Kawhi at all. It's a bunch of scrubs with a few good players mixed in that Kawhi has to carry to make the team look good against other elite teams. It's definitely not built around him. It's built around people Pop likes.

Spurs have ed him over majorly with the construction of the roster. I don't want him to leave or get traded, but I won't be mad at him if he wants out. The FO has failed him IMO. They've made choices not geared towards maximizing the team's basketball potential.

[Brazil]

Yep, I'd say for sure that this team isn't built around Kawhi at all. It's a bunch of scrubs with a few good players mixed in that Kawhi has to carry to make the team look good against other elite teams. It's definitely not built around him. It's built around people Pop likes.

Spurs have ed him over majorly with the construction of the roster. I don't want him to leave or get traded, but I won't be mad at him if he wants out. The FO has failed him IMO. They've made choices not geared towards maximizing the team's basketball potential.

what a team built around Kawhi look like in a plausible scenario in terms of FAs / trades etc... tbh ?

[Brazil]

What players and systems in the actual team are detrimental to Kawhi ?

If the argument is team is not built around Kawhi because the roster sucks... gtfo

[ECOV]

“but we’re the third seed”

there’s GSW and HOU. and then there’s everyone else. if the spurs go on a losing streak and they could easily be #6. it’s not like far and away from a lower seed.

spurs are also played a bunch of scrub teams the first half of the season.

yet there still there

[jermaine]

If our superstar played, maybe we wouldn't be 3rd... We'd be close to 1st or in 2nd.

[Ice009]

Penetrator/s. Kawhi's not really a penetrator, but he was getting better at it before the injuries. Spurs don't really have any on the team. They could have looked at getting one so they don't have to reply on a 40 year old Manu and an old Tony Parker to get to the rim. Having a player that could break down defenses consistently would have really helped. Instead, these guys are left passing the ball around the perimeter, just wasting time on the clock and not really getting much better shots.

Shooters. The Spurs don't really have any consistent outside shooters for Kawhi or LMA to pass the ball to when they're doubled.

[spurraider21]

I wish this team really had been built around Kawhi Leonard as some here have repeatedly stated

rockets 2017: a team built around its star (Harden) to maximize its strengths

spurs 17-18: a team DEPENDENT of as Kawhi Leonard plays to look elite against the rest of the league

are different things

Houston is dependent on harden

[offset formation]

But that culture though! Pop focusing more on his next rant on Trump then basketball sure isn't helping either.

Lol. Someone just outed themselves as a moron that thinks speaking out against any politician and coaching his basketball team are mutually exclusive.

Butthurt much, Trumper??

[rjv]

When you stop playing skill basketball and go ghetto, this is what you get. One dimensional aau media hyped

but that is really the state of the NBA at this time. it's AAU ball, much in the same way that the NFL has become 7 on 7.

[r0drig0lac]

Houston is dependent on harden

and?